Hitler specifically called the U.S. treatment of indigenous people an inspiration, and used it as his basis for treating Jews, gays, communists, intellectuals, and all the other victims of the Third Reich. tRump and his Fourth Reich is just coming full circle.
A little reminder, apparently Salvadorians are loving Bukele for this.
I tried reminding them that, removing due-process is a can-of-worms that you rather not open
there are people in other parts of latam that want that same shit in their own countries…
where there are marches asking where the people that were “disappeared” during the dictatorship went.
well i guess they weren’t against it, they were just really curious. like at a magic show!
Remember kids, fascism only ends one way.
Only one way, but there are many ways to approach that way. My favorite is the Italian method.
My favorite way to approach them is the donkey punch method as well!
Next week:
You know what, it’s fine. At least you’ll be sitting in a lower ring of hell than me for laughing at this. 😌
Thanks to modern technology we can watch the whole thing unfold in real time!
fuck yeah, subcontracting out the concentration camps!
It seems this new technology is not much benefit in stopping it? Observers are great, powerless and disorganized ones not so much.
It’s a European tradition to spectate torture and execution for entertainment.
Too many people live in willful ignorance
You can see the obvious big picture and scream from the rooftops, but everyone who is comfortable enough and in denial that things are actually that bad straight up just ignore you
It’s only now that people are starting to get their wakeup calls, like a lot of Europe, for example
But god, if it isn’t super frustrating to watch the local news in my European country and have politicians repeatedly say “nobody thought we would be standing here talking about this 4 years ago”
I did, fuckers! I did!! The fascist threat was obvious ever since the first trump presidency, and the trends could clearly be seen from even before then, however, I was a child at that time
I don’t get it. Especially because politicians are supposed to be the experts in trends like this. Is everyone just fucking clueless??
I swear most people are just so neoliberal ideology brained, and heavily struggle seeing anything outside of that. It’s been a massive failure on the part of society that political philosophy has not been a bigger part of the education curriculum. Or part of it, at all.
This sums it up nicely
I’m not sure how relevant this is outside the USA; but when I was helping build grassroots for social activism in Texas - I realized people had forgotten how! Their grandparents could, and did. I saw it as a child.
But something happened over two generations, and the knowledge was not handed down, or was not applicable when things changed so much .
I remember enough to know critical things in the community is missing. I suspect a major missing piece is that people stay indoors too much.
Same in Germany. I don’t know what it is either but I’m convinced it’s related to the loneliness epidemic among the younger generation. People have seemingly stopped connecting in meaningful ways in general. No more religion, no more sports teams, working from home and getting your social interaction fix through social media. I think all of this is seriously starting to take its toll.
Everybody works too much yet they can’t afford anything. Going out to do anything costs money and not a trivial amount, and everyone’s too tired after working so much to go anyways. Combined with bad work schedules it makes for a truly antisocial combination. Consider the fact that at one point in the 20th century the average British man spent more at the bar than he did on housing. That’s not good for your liver but the point stands that it’l was possible to do that and not anymore.
Yeah no viva Bukele
People saying “if you arrest all those gang members economy will collapse because even though they get their money from illicit activities they still spend it back into the economy”
Nayib Bukele “dude are you fucking stupid?” they arrested the violent criminals and the ones that organized themselves in violence promoting bands… and they GDP went up by like 5% I believe? mainly because honest working people didn’t have to struggle against the villain.
Nah those pieces of shit are there for a reason, society and tolerance are a social contract… you respect it and you fall under it, you don’t then you feck off.
ARRIBA BUKELE!!
Did you catch the words “without proof”, and “without due process” in the OP? It would appear that these people pictured are innocent.
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Yes the Jews had tattoos too, some were put there after they got there. I suggest a public library to help yourself champ.
Their comment was dumb, but comparing full body tattoos to id numbers tattooed on Holocaust victims is somehow dumber.
Seek a trash can and put your GED inside of it, then come back with something better.
You must have used your history book to color in.
Perhaps your own history will be delightfully colored with attempts to get it right despite a debilitating lack of awareness.
Brb, gonna go check for full face and body tattoos at auschwitz. Damn, you’re right they’re all over there place. Mind blown.
Yes please travel through time and report back thnx.
Your God king even backed off that claim dumb guy.
You would be a Linux user too lol. Too on the nose.
Reminder that before all this El Salvador was sweeping up anyone and I mean anyone they found on the street during their sweeps and throwing them in huge overcrowded cells to await mass trials without representation.
With tattoos
even more damning that the populace has cheered for it; non of the human right abuses matter so long as it’s not them.
“Accused without proof” excuse me what they literally have the gang signs tattoo’d on their skin. Are we gonna pretend that people get tattoos of criminal gangs but are actually not part of it?
Jesus christ el salvador was one oft the deadliest countries in the world. People were going to work in the morning and there was a big chance of not getting home alive. The population celebrates bukele, as the country plunged from like 40 homicides per 100.000 people in 2019 to 1.9 per 100.000 people.
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“Everyone that disagrees with me is a nazi” you know, come back once you got any kind of argument, okay? And stop embarrass yourself on topics you know jack shit about.
Please ensure you vacuum all the cheetoh dust from your keyboard next time, brave keyboard warrior.
I don’t think cheetoh’s exist here, pretty sure they’re banned because they contain some stuff considered toxic here idk.
How do we know they all have tattoos? There was no trial and we only have the worthless word of an administration that lies constantly. Why are you so trusting of a proven liar?
Oh, don’t get me wrong - I’m not saying that everyone deported from the US is a gang member. That wasn’t my intent, and if that is what you understood, I wasn’t clear enough, sorry. I have very little doubt that trump was infact abusing this situation.
My argumentation is solely in favor of bukele who’s trying to knock down the criminal gangs that have been effectively ruling el salvador for years. Many people have complained about bukele being an “evil dictator” and shit like that and I’m just kinda fed up with that stupid narrative.
It’s because he’s racist. We have to stop assuming that people are talking in good faith. If somebody says something like that you know they suck and you don’t have to give them the benefit of them doubt. Some people are just bad people and it’s their fault for being bad
Having been in a gang ≠ in a gang. Lots of people wear school runs that are long long out of school, provide evidence of an actual crime instead like our constitution and bill of rights demand you fucking authoritarian simp.
Cover the tattoo then?
If you’re going through asylum you’re not supposed to unless directed to, it’s evidence.
No idea about asylum that’s not what I was commenting about.
It’s the subject of the article and your original comment and it’s a bit late to backtrack now…
Just saw the meme not the article.
It’s in the meme too.
Having been in a gang ≠ in a gang
Shows how little you know about el salvador. People who have gang tattoos are either in a gang or dead. A criminal gang is not a club you can leave whenever you feel like it. Hell, even here in the west, people who try to leave the banditos or the hells angel often end up dead, and you think in el salvador, the (at that point) most murderous country in the world, they can just quit?
provide evidence of an actual crime
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_El_Salvador
The thing is, I’m as libertarian as you can get in the west. However, unlike most of you drones, I do recognize that at some point, being a civilized human stops working. Do you really think you can “reason” with criminal gangs that have been controlling your country for over a decade? Are you also one of those clowns that keep crying “No no no do not send ukraine weapons, you just have to TALK with putin!!!111 :(((((((((”?
Is the situation down there good? Absolutely not. Are a lot of innocent people being caught in the crossfire? Absolutely.
I’m not in favor of that at all, but I do recognize it’s the only way. Just like an infection that has progressed too long untreated, the only option is amputation of the affected limb. And el salvador had previous governments fail on every possible level.
And the people of el salvador probably are happy they can leave their houses again without being shot. Bukele has incredibly high approval ratings, often above 90%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_on_the_Nayib_Bukele_presidency
I work with ex gang members you’re wrong and your ancedotal bullshit means nothing. Prove an actual crime like the goddamn constitution and bill of rights demand. If you’re accused of something I’d want them to prove that as well, what kind of racist fucking bigot do you have to be to say fuck it no due process for these people and moreover how absolutely fucking stupid do you have to be to expect that not to be precedent to imprison other people without due process like I dunno… You dipshit.
I work with ex gang members
You don’t. At least not in el salvador.
Prove an actual crime
I know this might be a hard concept for you to grasp, but I can’t just fly to el salvador now and check the crime history of every single person in jail right now.
goddamn constitution and bill of rights demand
Of course you’re an american LMAO.
Unlike you, I’ve been in el salvador in 2016 because my (Ex) girlfriends family lives there. I’ve seen first hand how fucked up the country is and I’ve talked to the people there. I’ve paid roughly 900€ (in dollar tho) to people who wanted to rob me in the streets. During my 1 week stay, I’ve seen 3 people getting shot. That’s 75% of all people I’ve seen getting shot.
You fucking americans know NOTHING about the world outside of america. You just assume everything is the same as in your fucking country and apply your moral standards while never being anywhere near that country. You don’t put any effort into learning about the situation and thinking about: “Hmm what could be done about it?”. Seriously, what would you do to fix a country with over 100 homicides per 100.000 people? What would you do to fix a country where your children, parents or friends are more likely to get shot than in any other country on this planet? Good luck talking with criminals that ran your country for over a decade. Surely that will go well.
Honestly I hope trump runs your fucking country into the ground and just takes you off the internet like north korea so I don’t have to endure your sleezy, naive and clueless bullshit anymore. You morons make me sick.
I have worked with Salvadorans and some of them were former gang members, it’s really not uncommon in low income neighborhoods in much the same way it is in the United States.
Then you don’t have time for justice you have time for mob violence, you’re a gang member not a citizen with a civic duty. Get a tattoo of Mussolini on your face or some shit, get out the closet and be a proud thug just like you’re accusing these people of being.
It’s an American issue so yes the constitution applies, what did you think applied Estonian federal law?
They were deported from America you absolute bafoon.
I hope you get a clue and stop being so angry shit you couldn’t be bothered to look into or even read.
They were deported from America you absolute bafoon.
Every single gang member was deported from america? Absolutely, makes a lot of sense. 100 points for gryffindor. El Salvador had 0 crime before trump happened.
I don’t even know what to tell you. You’re in denial beyond imagination, not knowing shit about the country you’re trying to judge.
Go fix your own country first. You got a lot of fixing to do.
The ones we we’re talking about in this article about deportation were deported, yes go figure.
I suggest you learn English because nothing you’ve said makes a damn bit of sense. You sound like a broken LLM.
Tattoo of a gang sign or a rose with their family members’ names on it. Either or.
Yes, if you go on with that drastic measures, you are bound to hit innocent people aswell - just as ukraine is bound to kill innocent civilians by bombing russian infrastructure, despite all their attempts to mitigate those.
I don’t think you guys understand the severity of the situation that has been cooking down there.
Breaking news, Mother of a suspected gang member tells the BBC she believes he is innocent, even though she lives over 1000 miles away.
Yeah I’d trust the mother over the Trump administration. As we all know Trump always tells the truth right? there are also other examples… https://www.aol.com/man-deported-el-salvador-under-154120491.html
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Let’s see what they look like 2 years in. The Buchenwald picture was taken at liberation.
Edit - also as someone else pointed out, although the picture is from the El Salvador camp, it is NOT a picture of the same group of people discussed in the article. I did not know that when I posted.
So which parts of the picture are true?
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I think you need the /s so people know this is sarcastic.
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I can name about 30 very tatted people who have never committed a crime that I have personally met. Tattoos are not an indicator of criminality.
I mean, things have different meanings depending on your local culture. I think it’s much rarer for normal people to get tattoos in El Salvador than where you love.
Well they lived in the US. Hence the deportation. Which is also where I live.
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Dachau didn’t open until 3 months after Hitler took power. They are right on track.
You see, it isn’t so bad, they can sit up!
Ok, so I’ve never been a “meme” guy and think it’s stupid we have to force everything into the “meme” format but seriously, this is not a meme. I don’t think it should be removed but just sayin.