I’ve used proton for a year or two now and it is fine. Great for use on my phone when I want to use public/airport wifi and it sort of kind of works with gluetun (the rotating port is annoying but it still is a forwarded port).
But I’ve increasingly been annoyed with Proton as a company and am looking to migrate my email/domain to fastmail in the very near future. I COULD continue to just pay for the vpn (60 USD a year is pretty reasonable) but also feel like this is a good opportunity to “shop around”
Checked the wiki and other FAQs (which all basically crib from said wiki) and they all basically boil down to proton or mullivad… except that mullivad apparently stopped allowing port forwarding which is a bit of an issue for any torrents and the like.
So are there any other good options?
Thanks
routing traffic through Israel is not fine.
Please elaborate
https://encryp.ch/blog/disturbing-facts-about-protonmail/
https://web.archive.org/web/20190318213020/https://cryptome.org/2015/11/protonmail-ddos.htm
It should be noted everywhere that this person posts this, that this is an allegation without any actual evidence to support it.
the post is the evidence.
No, the post is a conspiracy theory that gives no evidence to support the claim. You can’t use an allegation as evidence to support your allegation, that’s circular logic.
it’s not circular logic. if you don’t know, you can just not say things.
That’s very good advice. The article you links specifically says “Allegedly” in the title. Let me save you the hassle of getting a dictionary and explain to you the definition of “allegedly”:
The article not only does not provide proof, but it admits that it does not provide it. You, however, continue to insist it does because you want it to be true.
I’m not willing to risk that it might be true
Omfg why even discussing andy pathetic bootlicking when this is a fucking cia honeypot… Their business plan was way too similar to google.
Then don’t do that? You have your choice of servers.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190318213020/https://cryptome.org/2015/11/protonmail-ddos.htm
This is a decontextualized post from 2015 that theorizes a DDoS attack on Proton at the time was coercion to “help” them by offering to proxy their traffic through Bynet in Israel for the purpose of tampering. Is there any other info out there to support this theory? It’s intriguing and believable but also complete hearsay absent any other corroboration, context, further info, etc.
I don’t trust proton. if you think you can trust proton, feel free to use them.
That didn’t answer the question. You made an assertion, but haven’t provided any evidence to support that claim.
I did provide evidence. you’re asking for more evidence.
No, you provided a conspiracy theory that fit your explicit biases. If you had bothered to actually read the link you provided, you would know they didn’t provide any evidence to support their claim that Israel is hacking Proton.
the claim isn’t that Israel is hacking proton. the claim is that proton routed traffic through an IDF affiliate.
I think you’re picking up subtext in my comment that isn’t actually there. If you don’t have more info that’s OK, I can do my own research.