• einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    7 days ago

    The gist is that they wanted to improve troop morale by showing they care about the troops.

    But since nobody trusts what a pelican says in public, they had to made it look like it was a private conversation.

    The world is so enraged right now, the whole non conservative sphere right now is just waiting for ever fault trump an make (and he makes a lot, maybe the most) that this was just to tasty of a news line to ignore.

    The current gov maybe is full of assholes(personal opinion) but some of them got big by being social media manipulators, they know how enragement works and how it spreads there words.

    This has all the optics of fake youtube drama where then someone releases “dm’s” to generate more views.

    Like if there would have been shit in that conversation that actually endangered anyone, or actually leaked shit thats not public…but no. All the chat does is showing that they like the troops, thats the whole point of the operation, appreciation (any maybe dabing on europe while at it).

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      6 days ago

      Showing they care about the teoops by leaking I formation that could have got pilots killed

      Genius!

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              6 days ago

              I’m not sure we should be discussing military strategy in an unsecured environment but if the DoD doesn’t care I won’t either. The Houthis have at least Sa6 and Sa3 Anti aircraft missile system and have employed them against US aircraft. The Houthus also have shot down the MQ9 reapers which are what was discussed in the signal chat. Here’s a video of the congressional hearing about it https://youtu.be/BUHCY0b1gG8

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                5 days ago

                bruh Sa6 is from 1967, sure u can hit a drone with that.

                “The SA-6/Kub was also used during the 1991 Gulf War. The threat posed by these SAMs led to the US Navy outfitting the ALQ-167 Bullwinkle Jamming pod on their F-14A/A+ Tomcats and A-6E TRAM/SWIP Intruder aircraft.” that was over 34 years ago, and EW pods just got better since then.

                Those Sa6 are a joke not a credible problem.

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          6 days ago

          They’ve shot down MQ-9s you really think they couldn’t take down an F-18 with advanced notice?

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            6 days ago

            Yeah i dont think they can shoot down a F-18, for a F-18 isnt a MQ-9s and will probably not fly alone or without defensive measures against air defense in the strike package.

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      7 days ago

      Catastrophic loss of OPSEC in exchange for a very tenuous sense of “rah rah military”? I don’t buy it.

      Like if there would have been shit in that conversation that actually endangered anyone, or actually leaked shit thats not public

      Hours forward notice of an impending military operation. He could have leaked it to someone in Yemen and compromised the whole op if he desired.

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        7 days ago

        Next you’re going to say we can’t divulge our nuclear secrets just to accidentally leak when is the next pizza party. We need to keep morale high, and who are you to deny our troops a pizza party?

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        bruh like nothing in that would have made a difference even if u broadcasted it on Yemens main TV channel 2h before the jets fly in. Its not like they didnt know the aircraft carrier in front of the coast. They have nothing at this point that would be even considered dangerous for those strike packages.

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      This pissed off numerous pilots, per other sources, and actually did damage to morale. Adding the wrong person to a group chat is probably the most relatable mistake that could have been made. It was also found that there are other opsec failures. This isn’t some n-dimensional chess move; this is just the result of complete idiots.

      Edit: “pissed off” not “pissed of”