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      I never actually watched the video. Now that I watched I think he didn’t mean to make a Nazi salute. He pressed his chest before raising his hand. I think he meant to salute his audience. That would also align with what he’s saying.

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              What do you mean? Hitler is doing the Roman salute. Which is not what Musk was doing in this video.

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                The claim that the salute has its origins in ancient Rome is dubious at best and ignores the fact that the salute is immediately associated with Nazism. Not a single Roman work of art depicts the salute. Don’t you think that’s a little fishy? There is evidence that it actually originated from the National Fascist Party, under Mussolini. Suffice to say there’s no good evidence that it originated from ancient Rome as opposed to it being a relatively new thing starting from the turn of the 20th century and originating in fascism.

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                Do you have any historical references to Romans doing that? Cause all I can find are fascists doing a salute called a Roman salute.

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                Roman salute comes from rome indeed. Its historical indeed, namely q930s. Coincidentally made by the same people who invented faschsim, coincidentally named faschists.

                Read a single fucking book.

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            early on there was an analysis that showed it was closest to the South African right wing version. Which kinda makes sense, no?

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              why does it matter?

              lmfao the fucking 1984 doublespeak shit that lets these fucks edge their way into normalcy shouldn’t be tolerated. he did a roman solute full stop. why is this even something that people entertain debating?

              act like they’re the stupid fucking idiots they are so they go crawling back into the depths of hell in shame, where they came from

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                please don’t do double speak: calling it a roman salute is already trying to give it any historical rationalisation.

                it is a nazi salute. there is little to no evidence of romans doing that salute. the only history with that gesture starts around 1914.

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        Have you ever watched American History X? Go see how neo-nazis salute each other.

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        He had ample opportunity to go back and apologize, say he didn’t mean to, with how it looked, anything. But no he went to double down with anti semitism, and supporting the afd. He didn’t, it was a nazi salute, and it shouldn’t be shouldn’t be defended.

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        Cool cool cool. So since it looks like a Nazi salute and was maybe accidental, he will surely apologize for the appearance and make sure no one misunderstands and thinks he is green lighting Naziism. That would be a good way to know. Should not take more than 24 hours. Even a tweet would help. Or a Xit or whatever we should call it now.

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          unfortunately I didn’t think my own actions through, the placement of your gif and the context compelled me to like it, now I feel dirty.

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          Seeing this, or a similar one, was what made me realise there was no other plausible explanation for what he was doing.

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            hes the type to watch history channel but only the parts about the nazis.

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          Also if they say they are not 100% the same tell them that American Nazis did add the chest slap to the whole thing.

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        I’d say you’re dumb as dog shit, but comparatively you make dog shit look smart.

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        Yes, the way a Nazi would - now shut the fuck up about it not being a Nazi salute.

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          Yes, the way a Nazi would - now shut the fuck up about it not being a Nazi salute.

          You shut the fuck up. Bring your toxicity and unhappy life elsewhere.

          Imagine some random person on the internet said something you don’t like and you immediately get triggered like that. Laughable.

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              You’re making a lot of assumtions. Musk is a prick and I hate him. What makes you think I tolerate him?

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                How many assumptions did I cram into a couple sentences? Lmao. I didn’t say anything about musk. My statement was about nazis.

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                Guy goes out of his way to defend Musk, turns around with ‘BuT AcKsHuAlLy I hAtE mUsK! cHeCkMaTe LoSeRs!’

                I’ll be reminding you of this conversation if I see you commenting again.

                Don’t bother deleting or editing your messages, I’ve already got them screenshot and saved.

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                  First of all, I’m not defending anyone. You lack reading comprehension. Me saying I interpret this not as a Nazi salute does not imply I like Musk or think he’s not a Nazi.

                  Second, I’m not deleting any messages. They got removed by mods for being insulting. So are other messages by other people who insulted me. But you can see that as it says “removed by mods”. Back to reading comprehension…

                  Go ahead and save screenshots of my comments and fill up your storage. You realize how this sounds right? You need to relax buddy. This is just a random thread on the internet. Nothing life-changing. Go outside, see the sun.

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              People on the internet are way too soft and emotional these days. Man-up and stop wining about trivialities. My comment was not Nazi related. It was just an observation. No reason to be insulting.

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                Yeah, you’re right, people are too soft.

                They should do that was done to Nazis during the war instead. Let me know if you volunteer walking into a BAR.

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                Why are you defending fascists by running defense for them? That’s a really bad look.

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                People on the internet are way too soft and emotional these days. Man-up and stop wining about trivialities.

                Yes. That includes you, here, in this thread.

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        I’m blocking you, but before I do I want you to know I hope you go out like Hitler did.

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          Unbelievable how such a trivial and unimportant comment that I wrote while taking a shit can trigger such a fuss here. Insults after insults. Why can you not relax for a moment and be happy? I meant no harm with my comment. Blocking accounts on the Fediverse based on that… Pathetic

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        Oh i read your post and now that i did it’s very clear you meant he was doing nazi salutes.

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        Did you believe him when he said owning a Tesla would actually pay you when it drives itself in…2015?

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        Hitler also did it. The only difference was that Elon Musk did so with more vigour. If he didn’t mean to make a Nazi salute, why did he respond with Nazi puns rather than apologizing?

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        Were you born this fucking stupid or did you have to take classes?

        Who am I gonna believe? You or my lying eyes?

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      Fascism can’t be ignored, that’s how they get power. That’s how Trump became president.

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        No, Trump became president because the media reported about him every day. Bad news are good news. He could have been ignored and there would have been a different president.

        Once in power though, better not ignore it. But who wants to see that it is not Trump who is organizing the fascism?

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      We are past the point where this shithead can be ignored. He’s in too much of a powerful position for that to work

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    Is there confirmation that he actually specifically wanted that image off reddit? Or is this just someone making assumptions after the recent story about him interfering with moderation at reddit?

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      The latter. There’s no news about blocking his sieg heil, just articles about the doge critique and banning linking to X.

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      havnt we forgotten that reddit caved in his first term too, trumps first term the gop complained about subs and forums with “illegal acitivities” and threatened legislations, reddit took those down quick.

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    He doesn’t want it removed. He wants to target those using it against him. Nazis using it to praise him are not in the crossfires now.

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      More examples of literal nazis praising trump and musk needed to be shoved into to the general publics face to combat this. Ive only heard some nobodies on internet mention it.

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    because it didn’t work.

    the whole idea was to trigger the libs with a vague gesture, like that one bitch who turned it into an awkward wave, but he got a little too into it and now people are setting his cars on fire.

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      Vague gesture? It was a full on nazi salute.

      Why are you saying this? Just call it what it is for fucks sake.

      Are you afraid or something?

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        The above commenter is saying that Elon likely tried to be vague about what he was doing, but failed at subtlety and made an obvious Nazi salute.

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        You can try reading that comment again. Or maybe you replied to the wrong comment, because it doesn’t say anything remotely similar to what you are complaining about.

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      I think it’s more that he got a bit too excited about the way the far right can get away with absolutely anything. The media will make excuses for you, the fan base will love it, the more outrageous it is the more it makes libs cry. The democrats will impotently voice objections, the Overton window will move as required, and you will have gotten away with it. I think he wanted to be the star of that whole circus.