• dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        15 days ago

        Antimatter doesn’t really do anything by it’s own, but if we let 1 kg react with 1 kg of matter (non-anti-matter), we get E = mc2 with m = 2 kg. So 1.8 * 1017 J, or 1.8 * 1011 MJ. If we assume that 10 MJ/kg is represented by about 1 cm, the bar would have to be 1.8 * 1010 cm or about 1.8 * 108 m. A standard A4 piece of paper is about 30 cm tall, so 6.0 * 108 A4 papers are needed. I.e. 600 million papers.

        So we definitely have enough paper, but it would be a very tall stack.

        • Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          14 days ago

          That’s only about 180,000km (~112,000 miles) or just under half way to the moon.

          Also some quick googling says an average desktop printer can print about 30,000 pages per month, so it would take 20,000 months (~1670 years) to print that out. And a typical toner cartridge can print 3,000 pages and costs $80, so it would take 200,000 toner cartridges and cost $16 million.

          Now, those aren’t based on any specific model, just the first result in Google haha

    • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      15 days ago

      Okay but since you’re the one trying to make a point by saying that, it’s really up to you to add the cost and show that the results really do make the point you want to make.

      • arakhis_@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        14 days ago

        its a post about uranium being at the top, so the message should be about primary energy generation (unlike sugar -nutritional energy, which is also in the pic)

        Cost per gigawatt of installed capacity: Nuclear power: 7–10 billion euros per GW.
        While Wind energy (onshore): 1–2 billion euros per GW. Wind energy (offshore): 2–4 billion euros per GW. Solar energy: 500 million to 1 billion euros per GW.

        This is evident if you just look at the nuclear power companies like france (who is heavily into nuclear): State-owned EDF - 70 billion euro debt. These companies can’t stay afloat because its that unlucrative and therefore need heavy subsidies.

        Then you have environmental cost, which is the funny part, because we cant even evaluate the potential of the damage since we dont understand the effects fully. The scale in the cartoon is literally comedic compared to the half-life of nuclear waste. like 24000 years for plutonium and for uranium over billions

  • ddh@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    80
    ·
    15 days ago

    If we could consume uranium, you could have a teaspoon’s worth and be done with eating for the rest of your life.

    • andros_rex@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      14 days ago

      I have a uranium rock which I could conceivably swallow - probably closer to a tablespoon than a teaspoon. I don’t think any process in my body could extract energy from it.

      Alpha radiation is not too bad. Unshielded helium particles. Like I tell anyone I show my rock too - as long as you don’t eat it, this is safe. (I am a mad scientist who has exposed hundreds if not thousands of children to uranium lol)

      Really, if you could extract the energy from the nucleus of a hydrogen atom, you’d never have to eat again. But also because that’s too much energy for you and you would be dead.

      • Trollception@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        25
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        15 days ago

        I wonder if that’s actually factual or not. Uranium by itself isn’t too terribly dangerous. It’s the whole fission byproducts thing that’s the buzz kill.

          • chaogomu@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            14 days ago

            Interestingly, no. It’s not the same as if you ate a chunk of lead.

            Lead binds to calcium channels, and then blocks them. This makes it a bit of a neurotoxin. It also accumulates in the bones.

            Uranium on the other hand is one of the heavy metals that the body is good a filtering out of the blood. The body is not as good at expelling the uranium. It accumulates in the kidney. This can lead to kidney disease, and other related issues. And that’s just the chemical toxicity of Uranium. Add in the radioactive side of things, and you have a truly distinct form of metal poisoning.

        • KiwiHuman@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          15 days ago

          Also it depends on the isotope of uranium. Something you could find naturally isn’t too dangerous, but something enriched too be used as fuel or for wepons is significantly more radioactive.

  • woodenghost [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    15 days ago

    Wonder what that would look like the even more extreme case of matter-anti-matter?

    By the way, energy density is exactly what you look for in bombs. It says nothing about energy prices per joule. It’s also great for nuclear submarines or nuclear powered aircraft carriers. So war, basically. Light from the sun has a pretty low energy density, yet powers live on earth.

      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        15 days ago

        Yep, radiation pressure. Which is a limiting factor for star size too: too big and the radiation pressure gets stronger than the gravity, blows them appart.

    • Nalivai@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      15 days ago

      If we’re counting future technology, my money are on iron man style reactor. Don’t need to fuze shit, infinite energy.

      • chaogomu@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        15 days ago

        Except the Ironman style reactor is pure science fiction, whereas hydrogen fusion is real, but still has issues of energy capture, which several groups are working on.

        There are two promising avenues, one is a direct physical capture, as in fusion is initiated with huge pistons that are physically moved by the fusion explosion,

        And the other cool one is direct magnetic coupling.

        I expect both to take off long before the tokamak style does.

        But fission power is already here, and much easier to set up. Molten Salt Thorium is also promising. And once some corrosion issues are solved, could power the earth at current levels for the next thousand years.

        All while producing an isotope of actinium that produces only alpha radiation. Which is super useful in killing cancer cells.

        • Nalivai@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          14 days ago

          Well, they suggested fuzing gazoline, not me.

          But fission power is already here

          Asterisk. A big one. There is no real life prototypes of energy-positive reactors yet. There are several promising pre-prototypes that are almost ready, just need to fix some engineering issues. And it would not be a problem if the whole field wasn’t in this state since the sixtieth.

          • chaogomu@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            13 days ago

            Fission. As in uranium and Thorium.

            We’ve had energy positive fission since the 1950s.

    • blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      15 days ago

      I was thinking the same thing. It’s unfair compare chemical energy to nuclear energy. Coal still kind of sucks, but the hydrogen in the others could definitely be used in fusion…

      • Gladaed@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        15 days ago

        Coal still has carbon in it. Carbon does have a lot of excess energy per nucleus. Just gotta turn it into iron.

        • blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          14 days ago

          That’s true, but there is far more energy to gain by fusing hydrogen compared to carbon. I’m not sure how it compares to uranium though. I suspect it might be similar. (I mean, obviously in practice you wouldn’t / couldn’t actually get the energy from fusing carbon - but we can still compare hypothetically. … also, I’m sure we could get a clear answer by looking it up; but this is one of those things where thinking about it is probably more interesting than knowing the answer.)

      • Shayeta@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        21
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        15 days ago

        It is perfectly fair in the context of “fuel”, a resource used to produce energy. Whether energy is generated via chemical or nuclear reaction is irrelavent in this case.

        • exasperation@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          15 days ago

          Yup. If, for example, you’re designing a deep space mission, where every gram counts, there’s a conversation to be had about whether it’s cost effective (and appropriate risk) to send nuclear reactors and fuel aboard those spacecraft.

          Or using modern engineering, whether an aircraft carrier should be powered by nuclear fission or internal combustion of hydrocarbons.

  • ThePyroPython@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    15 days ago

    Yes boss, I did work out the dynamic range of that log amplifier we wanted to use in our next product’s sensor PCB, it’s 80dB.

    The results are over here. (points to a roll of A-4 paper)

    It has 40 data points and only took me 1 week, 10 pencils, and 20 erasers to plot the chart. Yeah I can present it, it’ll take me 10 minutes to roll it out, pin it down, and fetch the A-frame ladder.

    • qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      15 days ago

      This is the real big brain hack with decibels — you can use a linear scale, it’s just that the units are logarithmic instead.

      (Yes I know most people would call a dB axis logarithmic, it’s just a silly comment.)

    • AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      15 days ago

      In the same way biofuels are: Technically yes, but still not that great of an idea outside special applications. (One I could imagine would be someone wanting to live completely off grid using filtered frying oil in an old-but-ridiculously-sturdy diesel generator)