And what can other leaders learn from it?

  • Norin@lemmy.world
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    Decades ago I was cook #2 at a retreat center. My boss, cook #1, was a quiet, but kind and competent kinda guy.

    He’d show me how to do something, and then give me space to get the job done while he took care of other things.

    After a while, we just sort of naturally settled into a rhythm of work. We’d both come in around 5am, get breakfast prepped, and then serve breakfast without needing to say much to each other at all. Then we’d do the dishes, again without needing to talk.

    Sometime after that we’d eat, and the two of us would have a good conversation. Rinse and repeat for lunch prep, leaving once the PM crew came in to serve that meal.

    The mix of being taught skills, trusted to get things done, and both of us appreciating when to be quiet and when to chat… that was everything. I’ve never had a better boss.

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    Easy, I had questions, lots of questions and instead of giving me the answers he walked me through the process to get the answer. This wouldn’t take long to work through I just needed his guidance. Within a year I was promoted and currently I’m in line for another promotion but due to head count there’s no room yet. I’m already the fastest promoted employee in the companies history which is just insane to think about. My previous boss before that couldn’t even bother to listen to anything the team had to say…

    If you want to be a good leader just take the few extra minutes and listen to what the team needs screw the corporate nonsense and build your team. When you do that your team is able to then lighten the workload coming from other directions so you can focus on corporate nonsense.

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    They asked me to do things instead of telling me to do things.

    He was explicit about it. He said, I know I’m your boss, I can’t just say go do this thing, but I have found I get better results and have happier co-workers when I ask you to do the things I need you to do instead of telling you to do the things I need you to do.

    A specific example would be, instead of, “please clean the lobby”, Saying, xwill you go clean the lobby for me, please?"

    And it’s one of those things that’s really, really subtle and really minor. It only takes a small amount of adjustment in it in the way that you speak, and it yields excellent results.

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    Bosses that listen to their employees, take their issues, suggestions, and concerns into actual consideration, and who don’t have ego/dick-swinging personality issues are the best bosses. Also, they don’t yell unnecessarily.

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    He was honest with me, and he advocated for me. He would team up with me against upper management and hide his cards from them.

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    When there was a conflict between employees due to one employee being a complete jackass they dealt with the jackass instead of telling everyone else that they have to accommodate the jackass because ‘that is just how they are’.

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    He actually cared about us. Our wellbeing, our professional growth. He didn’t get too stressed about things. He was forever asking for help with his phone or Word or Excel, but it was so adorable when he decided he wanted to learn to do a thing and just wanted our watchful eye to give him confidence. He in turn built our confidence. He had our backs. He was the best boss I ever had. When I was given staff to look out for, it’s him who I tried to emulate. He passed last month, and the service is next month. I’m looking forward to seeing the old gang again even under sad circumstances.

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      I’m sorry for your loss! It’s great that you try to be like him and let his ideals live on.

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    Understood motivation and didn’t care about pointless bullshit. Helps he was the co-owner of the company. He cared about growth and revenue and having a team motivated to achieve all that. He didn’t care how or where or when I did the work, or having procedures for promotions.

    The rule was - line goes up everyone gets a raise.

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    • Worked for their local team, and was quite happy to challenge/push back on unreasonable top-down asks.
    • Quite happy to admit they didn’t know stuff and asked for advice and ideas - and, of course, credited the appropriate team members for things that worked, but took responsibility themselves if things didn’t go well.
    • Displayed authentic emotions and enthusiasm for the work, rather that present a bland corporate mask.
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    He literally doesn’t care about his reputation. I asked him once why he became boss, and he said “at one point you may notice your boss is shitty at his job so you need to do it on your own”. Also he is an ex programmer doing project management, which is very refreshing compared to ex project manager who are doing project management.

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    Understood that I was brought in as a subject matter expert to fix a colossal fuck up from a previous employee. Every standup started with ‘What do you need and how do I get it to you.’

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    One was very laid back and tried to take good care of everyone despite being retail and him being laid back. Got me the highest starting pay he could (corporate seriously fought him over 25¢ and he compromised with them for 10¢ instead of just giving up, was only like $12 extra a month with my hours, but hey that’s still money). He understood the metrics were bullshit and didn’t crawl up my ass about getting them done even when they kept going up and we got new metrics added. Ofc did my best to just to keep him from getting shit for it (corporate certainly didn’t believe in raises or rewards for meeting them), but I appreciated he never trickled down their bullshit and stress to me. When a supervisor kept being inappropriate (I have so many stories about this dude, but I’ll just say he was 40 trying to badger a 24yro subordinate into dating him via antagonizing the rest of us to peer pressure her into it and I did have an issue with him telling me he had tick bites/rash/whatever and start pulling up his shirt/literally down his pants even after I said NO I WON’T LOOK FOR HIM as some examples I’m a woman and he was a straight guy if that makes any difference though tbh don’t believe that was bros being bros behavior anyway cause he did it with the 20s me and not the 60s female coworker), this manager did speak to him multiple times and then help me get HR involved and I didn’t get put on his shifts anymore.

    Other one was insurance and also went to bat for us about bullshit metrics and was very accommodating, like above and beyond accommodating (during covid new person got hired for wfh and then came out with she didn’t have home Internet and manager did get the company to agree to help her out with that, yeah it was ridiculous, but this manager just went beyond like that for everyone). She’d talk to me about problems like I was a person too. I like processes and a lot of times in healthcare at entry/you’re the lowest worker on the team it’s just a disorganized mess (this place our “processes” were photocopies of past employees notes of “idk it just worked” or “someone told me to do it this way and I don’t know why and there’s no updates to the department about changes that affect anyone not managers so I’m assuming it works even if this item keeps reappearing as rejected in my queue”). Any questions I had she’d answer or go find the answers for me, if I discovered anything wrong about our processes or to streamline them she’d listen to me and help me refine if needed before implementing. She let me write guides for the department on this stuff which I super appreciated (meant I didn’t have to keep fixing other employees work, the amount of stuff that would go through on our end as solved and then come back rejected I had to figure out my first couple months was insane). To explain this a previous job we were using a program no one understood, we just had a binder with steps. Anytime anything changed in the program or someone did something wrong no one knew what to do we’d have to get a manager in there who was NOT good with computers so no one could do work with that program half the shift until he either found some convoluted work around to make the numbers add up that looked like fraud and then send a manager email to his managers about it or he’d admit defeat and all our other managers would have a five minute go at it and then just write an email about it and we never talked about it again lol (we’d have months where we just had to add or subtract numbers to arrive at the right inventory until I assume IT somehow fixed it). I actually sat down and figured out that program (with the power of googling the manual and reading it cause we didn’t even have that!!!), wrote a more current comprehensive guide with both how the program works for our needs (in case anything changed again so people knew WHAT each function specifically did) and step-by-steps for our daily use AND appropriate correction steps for mistakes, he read it over, greenlit it, I started typing it up for the employee drive— nah nvm he doesn’t like change, scrap it. He did this to me CONSTANTLY and fought me on stuff as basic as “it’s 20XX, why are we managing our inventory and machines with a system of 8 clipboards”, he just did NOT believe processes could have evolved since 1970 or that anyone not a manager was enough of a person to contribute (he did this to everyone below manager, not just me). So I really, really appreciated the hell out of this other manager when I said hey handing out photocopies of notes from employees who knows how long ago is inefficient and I got to the bottom of some of this stuff, can we make a process to give everyone, she was on board, an active participant, actually followed through and didn’t backtrack on it because the world peaked in 1970 and non-managers can’t have functioning brains, they show up and do as told.

    Last one I’ll list tbf wasn’t the greatest, like he was a great guy, but not so great with non-performing employees (which tbf we had such high turnover company wide we were always struggling for a fill with at least 1/3rd our positions for various reasons, so I could kind of understand, you need a body to show up for shit pay at a job you have to touch poop, there is very little asking for more than that is going to get you beyond people refusing to show up to your site again as a floater). But this job was also very disorganized and he answered all my questions, when I brought up stuff he’d bring it up at the mandatory monthly meeting (this wasn’t crazy stuff, it was like if you get poop on something please make sure to clean it, we will no longer be putting feeding bibs in the same drawer we keep the toilet cleaning rags, etc). He also didn’t demand I use my car for pt transport (I was not hired to do this, it was a “fun” thing I found out after I was hired I was expected to get people with walkers into my jeep and not get gas payment to take them around). Like that job was super shitty (figuratively and literally), but he’d hear me out and see what he could do within reason (not cause he didn’t want to do more, but like said low pay super shitty job we couldn’t even retain employees at). Unfortunately, but understandable, he left and we got in a new manager who did the usual “I have worked at better jobs, everything the past manager did is wrong cause I need to show I was a good hire, instead of getting permanent hires and upping patient care we need to focus on how artistically the towels are folded and make an office area I can exclude you all from by stealing employee equipment so when MY managers come in I look like I run an upscale hotel and not a hospice home”. (Fr one of my coworkers just enjoyed folding laundry artistically from tiktok tutorials and this manager decided first we need to be folding them like the gdamn country flag off that and then when she moved to artistic hotel folds with a fan ruffle we needed to store all our towels that you know were regularly used for cleaning piss and shit and stored in an employee closet to that).

    More of a rant about my bad managers, but the bar has honestly been in hell for me so all these managers stuck out. They treated me as a person and they wanted me to succeed, they supported me wanting our department to succeed which is honestly the rarest fucking shit I ever see. We have such bad training in my field at my level (idk might also be bad at higher levels, I’m just not there) and I’ve had a lot of managers not want anyone to do the job right for various reasons I really appreciate when they let the team all help each other up. Maybe a person doesn’t take that in, but the insurance one I had another coworker like me and holy fuck it was amazing with my manager facilitating. By the time I left between us we’d figured out most stuff and written guides so onboarding was SO MUCH EASIER. We saw 0 compensation for this and tbh it frustratingly tanked our numbers for metrics cause we’d solve stuff first try instead of needing three goes at it (which counted as three metrics), but gdamn it felt rewarding to know we’d solved an issue and trained the department on it so a patient didn’t have to get their care delayed or downgraded (when I started if you couldn’t get something passed through you’d do 2-3 days of meds until you hoped someone figured it out, absolutely insane) until something changed again. Like both of us spent literal HOURS on the phone working these things out which isn’t how it should be, but getting them down to 20min processes was amazing and I take pride in that.