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And sending a space ship at a good fraction of light speed to a nearby star uses more energy than our total civilization uses at the moment. We’ve got some work to do climbing up the Kardashev scale before we’re anywhere close to that kind of travel.
Read this and thought it had something to do with the Kardashians.
Just remember that you’re standing on a planet that’s evolving and revolving at nine hundred miles an hour, that’s orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it’s reckoned a sun that is the source of all our power. The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see are moving at a million miles a day. In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour, of the galaxy we call the Milky Way.
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars. It’s a hundred thousand light years side to side. It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light years thick but out by us it’s just three thousand light years wide. We’re thirty thousand light years from galactic central point, we go around every two hundred million years and our galaxy is only one of millions of billions in this amazing and expanding universe.
The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding, in all of the directions it can whiz. As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know, twelve million miles a minute and that’s the fastest speed thereis. So remember when you’re feeling very small and insecure, how amazingly unlikely is your birth and pray that there’s intelligent life somewhere up in space because there’s bugger all down here on earth.
Gotta appreciate the classics.
Might as well watch it
You lost me at miles
Edit: /s for brevity
Same. Miles per second? What the hell kinda unit is that? Over here, we use Texases per lamb’s tail shakes.
Score of furlongs per Mississippi
Edit: duck autocorrect
I don’t want to criticize internet absurdity for many reasons, including but not limited to the fact that I depend on it to survive. Having said that, what’s the application of a length to area ratio?
I am referencing the Mississippi, a time unit. One Mississippi is equal to roughly one second.
Wow, that’s a lot better than my comment. Sorry I whiffed it.
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Here I am
I can’t disprove you’re god, so you must be!
If the universe is infinite in size it is a statistical requirement for a god, or a being that has ability we would consider to be godlike, must exist somewhere.
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reddit atheist detected. please remove your fedora and step this way for processing.Is Planck time even proof of anything let alone god? I mean, even if some glowing entity descended from the clouds and declared, “Behold, I am God,” would that actually convince anyone? We’d just have another person claiming to be god – which, let’s be honest, is not exactly a rare event on this planet.
What even counts as sufficient proof of God? A signed affidavit? A peer-reviewed miracle?A TED Talk with miracles? The whole “any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” thing kind of ruins the whole premise. Realistically, we’ll never have proof. At best, we can conclude that proof of God is permanently out of reach.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. I am God.
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It’s a joke bruh. Relax.
And I’ll just say too that science has explained many things, sure. But to say it’s explained “how everything got here” is so far from the truth I’m not even going to try and argue here.
Wait, now that I think about it, the observable universe have precisely that length because the speed of light, doesn’t it?
Its a combination of the speed of light and how inflation has varied the size of the universe. Light’s only been able to travel about 14 billion light years since the universe began but those further regions used to be closer so light from them was already part of the way here when they vanished over the cosmic horizon.
Also the Universe: continues expanding
I see you around a lot and appreciate your contributions. When I don’t have a good response, I’m just going to comment, “Kolanaki!”
Common trick map builders do, if you need to teleport the player for a scene e.g. they’re in a dream, but you dont want to load a whole new map you put the scene in the main map but someplace it cant be seen and is unreachable.
I love map breaking. It’s also fun to see what developers didn’t use.
There is teleportation in the Bible. Humanity just needs to up their game.
I want to hear more about biblical teleportation. I definitely missed that in Sunday school.
“Miraculous Transportation” is a more technically correct term, and it is not clear if it happens instantaneously or not. The boat in John 6:16 is immediately on the shore where they were headed, though this could mean very quickly. Same with Acts 8:26 when Philip is taken from the wilderness between Jerusalem and Gaza to another city.
Ugh. Now I’m going to have to break out the concordance and lexicons to sort through this issue. Thanks for your thoughtful and informed opinion.
Jesus did it after his resurrection too. Appeared in a locked room full of people. Appeared and disappeared more than once. I think there’s at least one additional instance that wasn’t mentioned in the other comment but I don’t keep this top of mind. It’s not like it’s common in the Bible, but apparently it is in the realm of possibility.
Personally - and this goes to crazy theory BS, I wonder if the tower of Babel wasn’t trying to reach the stars not by building tall enough to exit the atmosphere, but rather by teleporting there? There are some crazy theories about the age and purpose of the pyramids (it’s super unlikely they were tombs). Could that have been it? I also wonder if levitation was in the mix. What if ancient man was ridiculously smarter than we are? We dismiss people living to 900+ years old, but if you lived that long and also knew Adam who walked with God, who knows what the fuck you could do? I know it’s crazy as anything but I don’t mind letting my brain go to crazy "what if"s.
You have given me quite the rabbit hole to go down.i may never be the same.
Haha have fun!
god didn’t invent km’s ; satan did
Let’s say we reset everything today, wipe out everyone’s memory. God will be forgotten, science will still exist. People will figure out science sooner or later.
God will always exist before science, it is necessary to rationalize existence to have any hope of living long enough to develop science.
If there’s no meaning to what you’re doing, there’s no point in dealing with suffering. Only through extreme alienation from suffering can you start to have a non divine world view.
If I’m being honest, I think people will figure out god too. All it is is a question.
“Did someone do all this?”
It’s a reasonable question. Easy to ask, hard to answer. Attempt to identify this variable “someone”, and people will eventually land on some kind of god.
Yes, but the point is that every time god is “rediscovered”, the form of that god changes as does the scripture surrounding that new religion.
Science, for the most part, wouldn’t diverge from our current understanding of it, because it is ultimately our understanding of the world and its fuctions.
Different form, same essential content.
I mean you can answer that today lmao.
Exactly my point! I was a staunch atheist in childhood, mostly out of rebellion against Christianity. I’m something else now because I asked the question in sincerity. I’m still definitely not a Christian, mind you. But man, the void is cool to ponder about.
In a similar boat, I guess I would be considered a pantheist by definition.
Staunch atheist growing up, asked myself a similar question. My religious views don’t necessarily change my view of how the world comes to be, or promises anything like eternal salvation; just an acknowledgement that all of this comes from something and by definition you could consider that something to be god.
Any extrapolations ontop of that would have to be considered faith or conjecture.
In fact I think most people would find it somewhat depressing to come to a similar conclusion initially, but the questions that come from this pondering have really helped me find a harmony with the universe and I’m appreciative of that
Hey, welcome to the club! Pantheism has helped me find some deceptively obvious truths in life. “As above, so below” being a big one. Meshes remarkably well with science, and if anything it rekindled my enjoyment of science and reality in general. It’s the healthiest relationship I’ve ever had with “religion”.
Science laws won’t cease to exist, but if you wipe out everyone’s memory, their knowledge of that science will cease to exist - so they’ll have to figure it out from zero - and there’s no guarantee that there won’t be another placeholder in a sense (i.e. what religions have been historically) for what’s yet to understand.
Edit: maybe it’s more accurate to say science laws would cease to exist, but won’t cease to work; they would cease to exist in a formulated way (in that hypothetical memory loss) since they were put together by humans.
I think the intent is more “Scientific discoveries could be rediscovered, your One True Religion wouldn’t be.”
Yeah, in this sense I agree. I’m overanalyzing again.
Nah, we can bend space. Sam Neill checkmates God.
Take a shortcut through hell, eh?
That movie is about the first time humanity tried to enter the Warp without a Gellar field.
Best part of Warhammer lore imho.
For those of us who work retail, yeah…
Do you believe that the wide expanses of our planet Earth were crafted for the common ant to explore?
There is no evidence to suggest our planet or any animals on it are crafted.
Of course, but I’m trying to work within the established framework of the meme here
I think it wouldn’t be too unreasonable to suggest hyperintelligent ants could build a vessel the size of a human or larger and travel the Earth with enough speed.
Some of those ant colonies are larger than people so, seems reasonable enough.
That’s closer to us exploring our solar system I think, in scale, than it would be for us to explore even the galaxy let alone the whole observable universe let alone the whole universe.
Except that a large point of my comment is pointing out the hubris of man, so it’s important to note that ants are not hyperintelligent. They organize and build, but there is a finite limitation to their capability, at least in this and any known previous state of their evolution. Like that we are the most intelligent thing on our little planet doesn’t imply to me that we are not effectively to scale with ants on the cosmic level.
The intelligence doesn’t matter. The point is what is physically possible.
Even if we were hyperintelligent in the same scale as making current ants intelligent enough to build ships to ride the world around in, we’d still have to face the issue of the speed of light being a limiting factor.
Unless we actually manage to find some of those theorised strange particles which would fit with the math of the warp engine theory.
Alright, valid, you’re right, the presented limiting factor in the meme is in fact the SoL and not actually man’s ability to reach it. I concede, cheers.
99% of the universe is nothing. Wouldn’t that really be the dick move?
99% of the universe is nothing.
Worst video game developer ever.
Clearly it was made by Bethesda.
It’s actually just our solar system, the rest is just rendering tricks making us think there’s distance
The universe is basically 100% empty. An atom is more than 99.9999999 empty space.
How much of a proton or electron is empty space?
wow. never thought of this in that way.
Yeah, I rounded down.
Say that again when a brick made of 99,9999999% empty space hits you!
(Mustn’t be a hard hit, maybe more like a soft touch. For science, you know.)
Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, is it really fair to say my client hit him, when the brick is essentially 100% empty space? And isn’t he also essentially 100% empty space so can he even be hit?
But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a wookie from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about that; that does not make sense! Why would a wookie, an 8 foot tall wookie, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two foot tall ewoks? That does not make sense!
But more importantly, you have to ask yourself, ‘what does that have to do with this case?’ Nothing. Ladies and Gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case. It does not make sense! Look at me. I’m a lawyer defending a major record company, and I’m talkin’ about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you’re in that jury room deliberatin’ and conjugatin’ the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
Broad as an ocean, deep as a puddle. Oh great, more rock.
A faster light speed wouldn’t make a difference, since she made the universe 96 billion light years wide.
Tell me all your thoughts on God 'cause I would really like to meet her
Disclaimer: To any higher power listening, I am not done living and do not want to meet God/a god immediately. There’s still plenty of candy left in this piñata.
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Willem
Defoeeee
You can’t do this to me. I started this company. You know how much I sacrificed?!
Something tells me this isn’t a bad thing. If there is an edge of the universe, it’s probably going to be a very strange place.
Indeed, but the way the math for expansion works is that there is something called a Hubble horizon and that makes it impossible to ever reach the edge, since it is moving away from us faster than light. (The limit doesn’t apply to the expansion of space-time).
Quite a nifty solution by the Supreme Programmer to avoid us hitting the limits of the simulation. I couldn’t have designed it better.
“Space. It seems to go on and on forever… But then you get to the end and then a giant gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.”
–Fry, “Futurama”
I couldn’t have designed it better.
Delta Force game programmers: Ghm, that was a trivial solution to the problem.
Well it was a more convincing solution than just having level crossing arms come down and an infinitely long train cross every time you get near the edge.
So… is Rick the top God or are there infinite simulations?
Just along the Central Finite Curve.
Good thing there isn’t one since we probably live in a donut.
It does sort of feel like we’re in the butthole of universes, doesn’t it?
I thought it was technically a three-dimensional donut shape progressing along a sort of 4D torus that we only exist on the “surface” of?
That’s a common misconception. We actually live on the surface of a 3D bear claw progressing along a 4D cruller.
Torus*
It’s actually turtles all the way down.
Ah shit 🤯
And Earth is already stranger than some would like.
And that is scary. If the is one takeaway from observing the universe it’s that there are always bigger and stranger things out there somewhere.
Hey I hear there’s a nice restaurant out there
Imagine there being just no stars behind you. Just nothing. On one side you see the universe, like a wall of stars and lights, and next to that just pure nothingness. The void.
A bit off-topic but the voids in the universe (such as Bootes void) are scary af.
KBC Void is scary and cool.
You could never get to the void because space-time has already accelerated the edge of all matter away from you faster than the speed of light.
Not “the void,” no, but “a void,” yes. As the universe continues to expand faster than the speed of light, the stars outside of our galaxy will slowly disappear from view. There will come a time when the night sky is just the milky way and darkness elsewhere. I don’t know if anything will still be around to observe it, though.
Or the quantum foam, or both, it’d be wild to be able to stare out into that sorta of black, in a metal way.
Stupid relative distance measurements ruining all our fun
Light speed is a “you must be this clever to participate” barrier to becoming an interstellar species, that’s all. Even if it’s not breakable, it just means you gotta be able to plan hundreds or thousands of years into the future.
I guess us Americans are out…
Just put a bunch of dna on an asteroid. Nature will figure the rest of it out.
Because the history of evolution is that life escapes all barriers. Life breaks free. Life expands to new territories. Painfully, perhaps even dangerously. But life finds a way.
We can hardly plan 5 years into the future, let alone hundreds of thousands… It’d be pretty sad if the answer to the Fermi paradox is that everyone is too stupid to participate.
everyone is too stupid to participate
if they are anything like us, its probably for the best.
I don’t know, man, I kinda want to hear some of this Vogon poetry I’ve been hearing so much about.
meh. its only the third-worst in the Universe. you gotta go for the good stuff!
That was awful. Thank you.
It’s not “just” the speed of light though, light is limited by the speed of information, also known as the speed of causality. If you were to somehow exceed that, then your future light cone becomes very messed up, and effect starts to be possible before cause.
In other words, literal time travel
We don’t know how big is the universe beyond the observable universe.
What is observable is constrained by cause and effect. To see something, information must come from there to us. That cause and effect relationship cannot happen faster than lightspeed.
We therefore have no evidence for anything other than the observable universe. Claims about anything else run into Russell’s teapot issues. We can speculate, but it’s ultimately nothing more than a story.
Bro doesn’t believe in dark matter because he can’t see it
We can measure its gravitation.
The observable universe is constantly expanding as the passage of time allows light to reach us from more and more distant parts of the universe. So it’s less “we don’t know what’s outside” and more like (to a certain extent) “we have to wait and see.” And there’s nothing we’ve seen to indicate that these external regions that are being revealed are anything but more of the same kinds of things in our inner region of the observable universe.
Yeah, but we can estimate. I’m confident it’s at least 11 in size.
