I think this is the ultimate red line that the US crossed from a democracy to a fascist authoritarian country. Here are my points:
- Trump is a known criminal who encouraged a terrorist attack against the government and government officials. The fact that he was not only free of punishment but also legible for running as president shows that the democracy was already extremely vulnerable to a hostile takeover.
- Trump before that has repeatedly tried to convince the public that the election he lost was rigged, this is a blatant attempt to hurt the government and derail the people twoards an insurrection. At the very least he should have been investigated for conspiracy against the government (If he was muslim he would have been fucking assassinated as a terrorist already)
- The insertion of an unelected and unqualified person into the government and letting him run around and fuck with confidential and extremely sensitive systems and data (Elon) is something that should have been stopped way before he was able to start gutting public services.
- Trump did a pump and dump on NFTs, meme coins, and most recently the literal US economy. He is not even investigated for securitys fraud.
And now the really really bad things:
- Deported legal residents without due process and with secret “evidence” that no one is willing to share past “terrorism and national security”
- Ignored the supreme court and deported innocent people to a literal concentration camp. This is the 101 of a democracy being shattered, the authority ignoring the law and the police (ICE in this case) listening to the authority and not the law.
- Has now publicly and shamelessly announced that legal, US born citizens are next. This is past illegal, this unconstitutional and is the very thing the founders of the USA had in mind when writing the constitution.
And all of this without mentioning Trump as a private person being a convicted felon, rapist and a failure of a businessman to a degree that any sane person wouldn’t let him run a fucking easy-bake oven bakery.
So, am I crazy or did we just witness the actual moment that historians would label as the fall of the US democracy?
I feel so incredibly sad and exhausted at what has happened to my country. The US has had its flaws, sure. I was born in the late 90s and just within my own lifetime everything I grew up with has been ripped to pieces as an adult over and over again.
It’s some sort of sick joke.
I no longer have any hope for the future and am just bracing for impact at this point with what little I have.
The fact that he can make these statements and there still are people ignoring or defending him is just so incredibly gross and further proves how f’ed we are.
Basically at this point I don’t think there’s any comfortable way out of this, it’s going to be a very painful and costly road ahead for us and I don’t know if I really believe in this country anymore. If we actually make it to a real election in 4 years I’ll eat my words, but seeing how this is just starting I would say its extremely unlikely.
Trump seems content on driving us off a cliff
Second Amendment people, where are you huh?
Turns out, most are fascists.
That’s why anyone not in the cult needs to start purchasing and training with firearms.
As an American I am deeply offended, horrified, angry and increasingly resigned to what may have to happen.
The 2026 elections will likely be the most defining moment in American History since the American Revolution.
God I hope so. I can see them attempting to declare martial law and cancel elections because of some sort of shit.
They’ve proven nothing is off limits.
I can see them attempting to declare martial law and cancel elections because of some sort of shit.
Honestly I’ve been hearing that same line since Bush Jr was in Office. Heard it again for Obama, then again for Trump, then again for Biden, and now again for Trump.
If Trump does take it there then we start watering the tree.
They were pretty big on saying you’d never have to vote again.
You can’t keep saying that about every election
Rage, disappointment, fear. Also for now the strange feeling that despite everything my life isn’t any different than it has been for the most part. I do feel some hope as I have been going to protests and watching the numbers of people there rise every day.
The scariest thing about everything is just how absurdly powerful the US military is, and knowing that they have chain of command which has Donald Trump at the top. My instinct keeps telling me I should flee, but to where? Canada? I could see a possible future where that would make sense, but I also see a possible future where Canada becomes just as bad.I know someone that fled Croatia in the 50s to become a refuge and a stateless person. He made his way to the US via Germany, eventually getting naturalized and having a successful life and family.
This may be the last path open to us: Flee to a rational Euro country and seek asylum. Be the refugees that they push us to be.
European countries are also passing laws preventing mass-immigration through their borders. Of course, they are responding to Muslims and other brown people, but really, their fear of losing their culture is aimed at all foreigners equally. I’m not sure that asylum will be available or that current citizens will be welcoming to incoming American refugees.
Honestly, I’d be happy to become truly integrated into another culture and country and land. Like, if I end up as a refugee in another country, don’t naturalize me, don’t give me the right to vote until I’ve forgotten American values and culture. I don’t wouldn’t want to taint my new home with the same American biases that led to fascism. I want to learn better values and ways of relation.
Trump crossed the red line during his first term when he tried to overturn the 2020 election and this is an escalation of the same thing. With Republicans as active participants in the slide to fascism, and Dems still trying to follow the law while other side doesn’t, there isn’t anything to hope for because the only solution will be violent revolt and that would lead to even more death and suffering.
Even if he was overthrown and the Republicans scattered to the winds, US history has shown that it will not actually hold connected people responsible so we will just be back in the same position in a few decades.
We are completely screwed.
Too many US citizens literally wanted all of this. They are settler-colonial culture, the moral descendants of slavery and Jim Crow, the very same Americans who sent native children to slaughter at boarding school and the black children to die in the chain gangs. Today, we all still happily outsource our poverty, violence, and environmental destruction to other countries so we can live comfortably.
What is happening now is the real USA. We were force-fed the “beauty” of the American experiment, the importance of “freedom” in school, the pride for our country, while never being taught empathy for all of those people in our way.
So, while I like to think that I know better, and of course I am absolutely horrified of what is happening, horrified at American history, terrified for my own future as a gay female, I am also beginning to understand that too many Americans want what is happening. To fix it, we need mass buy in and mass movements. But…the protests aren’t stopping anything and our leaders have too much money to care about us.
I’m trying really hard not to be defeatist. I’m going to do anything I can to help stop it. I’m going to fight in every way I know how. I don’t want to be sent to a concentration camp for being against the Trump regime and for being queer. I just don’t know how to juggle my job and all the other plates I have to keep in the air to survive while also fighting against such a massive deep-rooted wave of racism and sadism.
Yeah… The job thing is very much intentional.
Too busy to fight is a real strategy by oppressors
Plan A is to tough it out. Illinois is a relatively safe state.
If ICE gets too close to me for comfort, or if Pritzker loses power, Plan B is to visit a friend overseas and forget to come back. Maybe we can find a civilized country that would not simply extradite us
If fleeing is not practical then Plan C is guns
As an uninformed European: Who is Pritzker?
For the time being, I, a EU citizen can say “I hope Trump dies” (or worse) without having to fear repercussions… yet.
I absolutely cannot enter the US anymore though. I’ve said things that would get me sent to CECOT on arrival. No big loss…
I had a therapist that said they wished the would be assassin hadn’t missed. Def my favorite therapist, though I still question that he was ever even shot in the ear.
As an American I can no longer speak freely about what needs to happen to this unspeakably evil piece of trash without fear of being sent to his extermination camps.
It’s unfuckingbelievable.
I think literally every person with working fingers and a working mouth should speak about what needs to happen to Mango Mussolini and the fascists. They can try, but they can’t deport the entire country.
I, too, am Spartacus.
I can no longer speak freely about what needs to happen to this unspeakably evil piece of trash without fear of being sent to his extermination camps.
So their plan seems to be working…
All it takes is one person…and they were with me the whole night.
I’ve been predicting that by the time this is all over, there will be mass graves in the US and Trump will be included in the lists of worst mass murderers in history.
I’m now predicting that there will be mass graves in El Salvador and Trump will be included in the lists of worst mass murderers in history.
Guns.
Buy them.
Help others buy them.
Train.
Help others train.
I feel like it’s been a long four months.
It’s only been three 😭
It’s tyrannical
The British crown placing tariffs on tea was tyranny. This is authoritarian fascism.
Horrified and a bit scared. I’m currently out the country and I have to wipe my phone before heading back just in case. I don’t think I’ve said or done anything illegal, but just not liking Trump could get me in trouble these days.
I’ve got so much family here, a grandchild due soon, I can’t leave so that only leaves fighting. Ideally in the ballot box but I will defend this democracy by whatever means are left to me, as required by my oath of enlistment almost 34 years ago.
I’m not American, and I know this community has a “no politics” rule, but by now I’m questioning whether everything is just becoming political, when you see such decisions.
Always has been.
I feel like “no politics” is a general way to make a “safe space” from politics, but when things are this bad, you can’t really escape it…
But, I didn’t know that there is such a rule here. If it get’s removed I will understand.
I’m starting to disregard no politics rules. Shit’s getting too serious to play that game.
There is no safe space from fascism.
Condemnable and yet barely even surprising.
