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GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldM to Late Stage Capitalism@lemmy.worldEnglish ·
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Communism is when capitalism

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Communism is when capitalism

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  • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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    Please quote that part.

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      You can read the full manifesto here https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Manifesto.pdf But let’s go through it step by step.

      1. Marx divides all people into classes and then declares that people in a specific class are better than people in other classes. This is covered in his first part called “Bourgeois and Proletarians”. Direct quote:

      the proletariat is its special and essential product

      1. The second part establishes that there are even better representatives of “good people” called “Communists”. This whole section is dedicated to dehumanising everyone else and showing that Communists are the superior people to everyone else.

      2. He then openly calls for violence multiple times finishing with:

      their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.

      You can replace “Communists” with “Arians” and “Bourgeoisie” with “Jews” and you’ll get Hitler’s manifest. Same shit.

      • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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        Even if this is true (it is not, 1 and 2 are just wrong), it does not show him calling for a genocide.

        And your last line is incredibly stupid, “but what if he had written jews”, see just like Hitler. “But what if water was fire”, “but what if up was down”.
        He didn’t. Bourgeoisie != Jew. If you replaced all instances of “Bourgeoisie” with “Jew” it would not make sense, as Marx is talking about classes, and their relation to the MOP not jews and arians or whatever.

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          Wow, the delusion…

          • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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            Are you American? You’re the third person that has had a very hard time reading, I have heard the american education system is really subpar.

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              No. As I stated before, I’m from the USSR and I know first hand what communism really is. So stop spreading this delusional bull shit, please.

              • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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                I’m not spreading any delusional bullshit. Please re-read the Communist Manifesto, you have completely misunderstood it.

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                  I haven’t, you did.

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                Even on the slim chance you’re telling the truth about being from the USSR, the fact that you have a comically poor understanding of Marxism, and the insistance that fascism can be meaningfully separated from Capitalism without any backing, ultimately undermines everything you have to say. Regardless of your personal anecdotes, your understanding of political theory is comically horrible, and you have never for one second made an argument beyond “because I said so.”

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                  You’re ignorant and delusional.

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                    When you don’t have any facts or data, you jump to insults.

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