Since so many commenters can’t seem to imagine it: children don’t need punishment. I never got “disciplined” at home. No physical punishment, no time out. And I never hurt anybody, wasn’t a bully, always had a trusting relationship with my parents. Things weren’t perfect, far from it, but punishment or making children feel bad on purpose were not what was missing. Those have been scientifically proven to be counterproductive. To many people cling to them, because they’re what they experienced and they never learned how to actually talk to children instead and maybe even help them work through their emotions (actually that last part kind of was missing in my case, but that’s beside the point). That video posted in the other comment explains it well.
Giving a child a five minute time out is not fucking child abuse people it’s one of the mildest things you can do.
I don’t think it’s the 5 minutes so much as it’s the making a kid stand in a corner facing the wall. I’m not sure if that constitutes “child abuse” but I’d never make a kid do that. Pull a kid away from what they’re doing when they’re misbehaving sure, make them sit out for a bit, but I don’t think creating a shame corner is very healthy
Yeah, it’s a humiliation ritual.
It’s really too bad, because forcing a child to stop and think is actually really good and healthy. It’s just been combined with this toxic and vindictive punishment mindset that treats children as animals that need to be trained.
I think that besides all that its also a… weird suggestion? ‘Go to the shame corner and look at the wall!’ sounds like something an alien would say when managing children. It comes across to me that they’re not actually engaging with a discussion about permissive parenting, they’re defending a specific practice which they think is legitimate. Without stopping and thinking about whether it makes sense.
I can imagine some hyperactive children I know hating the silence corner for all of 5 minutes before they forget it was even a thing. But the parents I know wouldn’t even think of using it. They’d retract phone/toy/game privileges instead.
They way she phrased that she’s obviously a piece of shit but is standing in corner really considered abusive? That was probably the lightest punishment I got as kid.
What purpose does it serve and what do you do if the child refuses? The implication is that if you don’t stand in the corner I’ll do something worse, is it not? And the purpose seems like it’s just an expression of authority over the child it’s not going to help them understand why they’re being punished