i do my best to accept star trek in all of its forms despite its many flaws because i like the optimistic portrayal of humanity’s future and i have the most difficulty with section 31.
it’s, by far, the most glaringly american jingoistic flaw to me; even more so than star trek’s lgbt-averse story telling in the rick berman era; or the sexism in the roddenberry original; or the militarism it adopted from the nicholas meyer movies.
i haven’t watched the section 31 movie because of it, but i intend to eventually because i experienced the older generations of the fandom reacting negatively to the changes in discovery; and again during voyager & deep space nine; and again when the next generation came out; and again when the first movie was released. i don’t want to be the one of the ossified trekkies that misses out on enjoying new story telling by refusing to embrace change because of my own limitations like they did and also i feel like doing so makes me no better than the liberal and conservative trekkies that decry tankie or woke trekkies despite star trek’s clearly tankie/revolutionary original premise.
i hope that future incarnations of star trek lets section 31 become a relic of the past like the other flaws i mentioned; something that future generations see and think wtf to themselves when they see it and move on to embrace the overall optimistic story of what humanity could become despite it. i would like to see the section 31 movie become regarded as a companion to the fifth movie; as a low point in the trek story telling because of thier considerable flaws, but still enjoyable for the diamonds in their respective roughs.
I can sympathize with your position. I wasn’t there for the older backlashes, but I wouldn’t have avoided Enterprise for an instance just because its more or the same or not as good. For one, I was actually amused by the Bush Era America Fuck Yeah militarism that managed to seep into it even if slightly.
That said if I was to act as a filter for all the feedback: there is indeed an undercurrent of cruelty in modern trek. With Discovery it seemed like it was just the writer’s inability to imagine an aspirational future. But it slowly mutated to something more malevolent with what I described from Picard and Section 31. Which is why Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks is worth a watch. The cruelty isn’t the point there.
i do my best to accept star trek in all of its forms despite its many flaws because i like the optimistic portrayal of humanity’s future and i have the most difficulty with section 31.
it’s, by far, the most glaringly american jingoistic flaw to me; even more so than star trek’s lgbt-averse story telling in the rick berman era; or the sexism in the roddenberry original; or the militarism it adopted from the nicholas meyer movies.
i haven’t watched the section 31 movie because of it, but i intend to eventually because i experienced the older generations of the fandom reacting negatively to the changes in discovery; and again during voyager & deep space nine; and again when the next generation came out; and again when the first movie was released. i don’t want to be the one of the ossified trekkies that misses out on enjoying new story telling by refusing to embrace change because of my own limitations like they did and also i feel like doing so makes me no better than the liberal and conservative trekkies that decry tankie or woke trekkies despite star trek’s clearly tankie/revolutionary original premise.
i hope that future incarnations of star trek lets section 31 become a relic of the past like the other flaws i mentioned; something that future generations see and think wtf to themselves when they see it and move on to embrace the overall optimistic story of what humanity could become despite it. i would like to see the section 31 movie become regarded as a companion to the fifth movie; as a low point in the trek story telling because of thier considerable flaws, but still enjoyable for the diamonds in their respective roughs.
I can sympathize with your position. I wasn’t there for the older backlashes, but I wouldn’t have avoided Enterprise for an instance just because its more or the same or not as good. For one, I was actually amused by the Bush Era America Fuck Yeah militarism that managed to seep into it even if slightly.
That said if I was to act as a filter for all the feedback: there is indeed an undercurrent of cruelty in modern trek. With Discovery it seemed like it was just the writer’s inability to imagine an aspirational future. But it slowly mutated to something more malevolent with what I described from Picard and Section 31. Which is why Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks is worth a watch. The cruelty isn’t the point there.
it made me groan as i watched them introduce the maco’s and the entire xindi story arc felt like like a cartoony adaptation of 9/11