Range
- Small battery range: 240km
- Big battery range: 385km
Motor
- Motor: Single motor, rear wheel drive
- Power: 150kW
- Torque: 264Nm
- 0-100km: 8s
- Top speed: 145km/h
Dimensions
- Bed length: 1.5m
- Vehicle length: 4.4m
- Vehicle height: 1.8m
- Vehicle width: 1.8m
Comparison
- 2025 Kia Niro length: 4.4m
- 2025 Ford Maverick length: 5.1m
- 1985 Toyota Pickup/Hilux length: 4.7m
Weights
- Curb weight 1634kg
- Max payload 650kg
- Max towing 454kg
Charging
- Port: NACS
- Onboard charger: 11kW
- Level 1 AC, 3.6kw, 20-100%: 11h
- Level 2 AC, 11kW, 20-100%: under 5h
- Level 3 DC, 120kW, 20-80%: under 30m
Safety
- Traction Control
- Electronic Stability Control
- Forward Collision Warning
- Automatic Emergency Braking
- 2-stage Driver/Passenger Airbags
- Full Length Side Curtain Airbags (Truck 2) (SUV 4)
- Seat Side Airbags (2)
- Backup Camera
- Pedestrian Identification
- Auto High Beam
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Curb weight 1634kg
This was the standout spec that might make me consider one.
I’ve been looking mainly at small hatchbacks/SUVs, and they all seem to weigh in at over 1800kg. And many are over 2000kg. Excluding Aptera…
What makes that spec a priority for you?
Weight affects basically everything. Less weight means less cost to buy, better range, better handling, less cost of maintenance (brakes, tires, etc), better safety, less getting stuck off-road, and so on…
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? I don’t know what that means.
Since that is a full stop, maybe it means having to stop all that weight when braking?
In that case AWD and ABS are more important than curb weight.
I was putting that comment up to come back to see what the guy above you answered your question with.
Have you tried the “star” feature? That does exactly what you’re looking for, but without useless posts.
Nope never have. I’m using boost app. What is it,
It saves the comment/post, and you can find them later by going to your profile.
Here it is in the mobile version of the web app, it’s the star. Click that, and then you’ll see then under your profile -> saved.
Tires? General handling? Crash safety for others?
+1
Weight is everything. Removing it makes almost literally every aspect of a car better, and it’s usually a terrible negative for EVs.
Interesting! I must say I never considered it. My kia soul EV was heavy but handled very well. Loved that thing.
EVs have a very low COG due to the batteries being at the bottom of the car. This is a good thing for handling but making them lighter would be even better.
Oh yeah, its more than that. Low weight helps acceleration, braking (so safety), handling, range, wear on every component, and most of all, cost. The same sized tires will need less pressure, wear much less, and grip harder. If the car is lighter, you don’t need as stiff a chassis, nor as much braking to lock the wheels, less battery, motor, which means you can take even more weight off the car… You get where I’m going.
Racecars are fast because they are light, not because they have big engines and expensive bodies. Little 1500lb cars can lap a $3 million 1500hp (and quite heavy, because of all the stuff in it) Bugatti around a track.
Heavy cars can handle OK, but the cost is big.
Others have answered this well already 👍
At least tell me there’s a DIN slot in the dashboard. As long as I can connect my phone via Bluetooth I’m good.
This is actually pretty cool and makes sense. Can’t wait to see what the 3D printer community does with this if the dash can be customized with accessories. Anyone know when a test drive would be covered?
Everyone seems to hate this thing based on marketing but I actually kind of liked the looks of it, sigh.
Yeah, what’s wrong with it? It looks like a simple truck for around town use, and it’s fairly cheap.
My only deal breaker is the lack of 4x4. I love this truck, but I will not buy a truck without 4 wheel drive.
What do you need 4x4 in a truck this small for?
Rwd is shit in the snow and other low traction environments. Also, just to take out in the woods and have fun beating it up overlanding.
Are you really going to take it into the woods with just two seats, mediocre suspension (likely, given the limited payload and towing), and limited range? Just get a Polaris side-by-side or something, they’re built for that.
I get it, a cheap truck is appealing, but at this price target, it’s going to make a lot of compromises. It should do fine in plowed roads (might need sandbags in the back though), so it’ll probably be fine for around town use, which seems to be its target.
With the motors and battery being on the backend of the truck, wouldn’t that give you better traction on the back wheels over the front wheels?
I’m not sure how the weight is distributed, so maybe? Maybe it needs sandbags in the front?
Either way, it sounds workable as an around town truck, even in snow, without 4WD.
Yeah, lol, I probably would. Unless they do something weird, suspension and wheels can be upgraded, and they have a battery/range upgrade that can anso preclude the need for sand bags. But yeah, I probably would.
Also, a sxs needs a trailer and a truck to get to the woods, and I have nowhere to store a trailer and a sxs.
Same. I would like to have a 4WD overland rig that doesn’t pollute the air while I enjoy nature. Don’t tell the guys over at !fuckcars@lemmy.world this but I kinda want a Rivian R1S but with a near $100K USD price tag, It’s probably never going to happen. I’ll just stick with eMTBs.
I love this thing too hell and back. This is exactly what I want in a car/truck.
Something like this I imagine I’d be happy with. A sedan/crossover and this. Wouldn’t take it out the county. Just trips to hardware/gardening stores and moving furniture. More than enough range and speed to go to work too. Any long drive I’d probably get an Accord hybrid or something. 2 vehicle family
Same. We have two cars and three kids. One needs to be comfortable for longer trips, camping, etc, and the other just needs to go to work and back. This would be perfect for the second, and double as a furniture, garden stuff , dump, etc hauler around town.
I personally hate trucks, but this is in the price range and could be handy.
If pickups and other monstrosities were limited to people that can prove they need it, or even just to professionals, we wouldn’t need the stupid paradoxical concept of an EV pickup. Like “oh my flame thrower that I use to light birthday candles runs on biofuel, so we’re good”
What’s wrong with an EV pickup? Pickups are incredibly useful, and if it’s an EV, it could also be a commuter. I don’t need a truck very often, so I tend to rent when I need one, because they’re so terrible on fuel. But if it’s an EV, there’s a chance it’s reasonably efficient, so I could use it as my commuter and occasional dump/furniture store/hardware store/nursury run vehicle.
This isn’t going to attract those dudes who like to lift their trucks and piss off everyone on the road, this is too small for those egos. This is going to appeal to people who need a truck for local use, like small business owners and DIY types.
How many people actually need them though? You are one individual making your case, there are millions on the roads.
I once moved a small fridge in my Honda civic
Millions of 2 passenger trucks that can barely tow an empty trailer? This isn’t something your average “truck enthusiast” will want, this only really appeals to people who will actually use it.
Elon now bezo. Noice
Where’s the bullet point for Bezos? Hard pass if that shit bag is involved in anyway.
He’s a billionaire, and he’s a normal billionaire at that. Investing is literally the only thing they do.
150kWatt and a top speed of 145? That’s kind of insane?
Wait a minute, mph not km/h I guess.
Yeah, 145km/h might be a liiitle under powered. I drive between 120km/h to 130km/h on the US interstates.
How are you doing kph in the US?
Squinting your eyes on the smaller numbers on the speedometer. I do it all the time!
So you’re saying your car is able to use mph when in the US? Fancy car!
Btw, I was trying to make a joke about mph being some different kind of “fuel” that’s not compatible with kph, in case that wasn’t clear.
Be careful, you might get pulled over for doing kph instead of mph in the US.
No imperialist (system) is going to stop me!
Every car I’ve owned has had a way to change the speedometer from freedom units to ✨ metric ✨ .
For knowing what speed I should be going, I roughly follow these numbers. (Note, these are not equivalent.)
- 35mph -> 50km/h
- 60mph -> 100km/h
- 70mph ->110km/h
Also, very roughly 10km ≈ 5mi.
However, most of the time I just follow the flow of traffic.
I voluntarily switched to metric like 10 years ago, so meters, celsius, grams, etc make more sense to me now.
You missed the joke.
I was making a joke as if kph and mph were physically distinct things and only one of them worked in each country.
Cool but now I’m worried this is being spammed everywhere. New capitalism marketing at foot?
yea im already slightly tired of seeing this truck after the day(s) it’s been promoted.
Really? This is the first place I’ve seen it. Then again, I use an ad blocker everywhere.
I’ve seen it several times on Lemmy, Reddit, my news feed, my bloody RSS feed…etc
And I block ads., I don’t see ads, but now social media in general is just half astroturfed ads.
Every news website is covering it. I think I’ve spotted most of 10 articles around the place.
The law of well-marketed unreleased goods dictates that this vehicle is not going to meet any of the promises mentioned in the articles. I hope to be proven wrong, but just like video games: don’t pre-order, wait for it to come out and be reviewed.
Yeah, the only thing I’ve pre-ordered in the last few years is my Steam Deck. I think it’s also generally a good idea to avoid gen 1 of pretty much everything.
Absolute dream. Please build it!!
Toyota Tacoma didn’t exist in 1985. The first model year was 1995. Did you mean a 1985 toyota pickup/hilux?
Whoops! I did mean the Toyota Pickup. Thanks! https://www.iseecars.com/car/1985-toyota-pickup-dimensions
239 miles / 150 miles for big/small battery in angry eagle units.
I struggle to understand the point of a truck that can only tow 500kg… that and such awful range. If the range were doubled this would be a great deal, but as is it’s just dead in the water.
Low towing capacity and an outrageously miserable bed size. Less than five feet? The powertrain of this should have been put in a station wagon, not a “truck.”
There used to be a market for small trucks which has all largely evaporated. I’m all in favour of a smaller utility truck with limited range. Something like this would be ideal for my business.
It can probably tow more, usually 500 kg is like the bare minimum for American cars. Also us towing standards are a bit more strict. A car in the EU is rated to tow more than a car in the US, even if it’s identical.
Even if it were 1000kg, that’s still way below what a truck would want to tow though.
Depends on the truck owner. It’s not going to haul a boat, but it can probably do lumber (though the bed is kinda short and narrow), gardening stuff, and camping gear. That’s basically what I’d want a truck for, plus the odd piece of furniture.
Treat it like a base Chevy S10.
$20k with some cargo for a car is pretty good. If you need a F150, then you’ll have to pay for one.
I mean, are there any cars available in the US for just $20k? I’m pretty sure a base Mazda 3 was more than that when we bought ours five years ago (before the pandemic, and ours is a higher trim model). I don’t think they’re making the really small cars any more (like the Toyota Yaris).
Short version, I’m skeptical of this price point for even a small pickup. Great if they can do it.
Electric? Nothing under 20k that’s new. We had a Chevy Bolt on the market at 28k, but it’s discontinued now.
I meant including gas.
Looks like there’s one, the Nissan Versa.
That’s because you’re thinking of trucks used first and foremost for heavy duty “truck stuff.” That is not the only market for trucks, at least in the US: https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume
According to Edwards’ data, 75 percent of truck owners use their truck for towing one time a year or less (meaning, never). Nearly 70 percent of truck owners go off-road one time a year or less. And a full 35 percent of truck owners use their truck for hauling—putting something in the bed, its ostensible raison d’être—once a year or less.
Is this a $20k kit car or a $20k truck that they build for you?
Both options available
Hmm, apparently so. I am going to assume if they build it for you it’ll cost more. Also I found the configurator
This is my ideal build: https://www.slate.auto/share/5VXBMW
I could barely make it out, but the tires on this build here are 255/70R17, which are effectively 31" tires. Great size. I was just talking to my wife last night about how I’d absolutely DD an older Jeep Cherokee XJ, slightly lifted on 31s (I used to have a 1998 XJ just like that), but the fuel economy would be abysmal at best. This thing, however, optioned with the big battery, would cost me roughly $10 at most to charge from empty to full, which is really nice.
The lack of AWD is a bummer, but not entirely a deal-breaker. I’d absolutely rock this little thing on some of the local 4WD trails.
