“Anything that relates to water quality, removing contaminants, things like that, we’re not touching that,” Tuck [the bill sponsor] said. “It’s anything that has to do with health. So fluoride, vitamins, whatever else it is.”
This is grim. Water fluoridation was one of the biggest public health victories the US had gained.
Keep your teeth safe, comrades. Try a fluoridated oral rinse if you have difficulty with consistent brushing.
Lol I saw the amount of comments and thought, “wow this is a bigger deal than I thought.” Then I saw the federated user coming in.
Oral hygiene has a direct relationship to your health, just the increase of heart disease alone is going to kill or disable so many people
There was a first?
Yes, apparently Utah banned around a month ago. I must have missed that reporting too.
it’s got to be a really high bar for me if we’re going to require people to be medicated by their government.
-Governor Cox
Honorable mention: Hawai’i refused to even enact a fluoride requirement in 1966 and it’s failed in the legislature ever since.
In 2015, the state’s 3rd graders had the highest rates of tooth decay in the entire US.
This is one of the bluest states in the entire nation. Would you like to know more?
I hate this godforsaken country.
The dirty soda cabal and dentists conspired to make this one happen
Bonus Fact: Gov. Cox posed with Donvict Dementia last year at Arlington National Cemetery to campaign for votes over dead vets, endorsing donOLD Krasnov. Cox apologized for the vet desecration stunt, but not for endorsing the Tax Tariff Troll. Now kids have to get fluoride in other ways as the government chisels away at the things that actually make Utah great.
So are you going to join an org
or is your idea of “organizing” coming up with more names to call Trump?Donvict Dementia
donOLD Krasnov
How do these liberal Trump names just keep getting worse?
I lost all hope when I heard “Mango Mussolini”
FFS you had “Dorito Mussolini” right there and you went with Mango you god damn shitlibs
Mango Mussolini does have alliteration though
But Dorito sounds more like Benito
libs don’t know his full name
Give them a break, it’s literally their entire praxis.
vitamins in water system
Good that you can’t misspell the French name for the state in while in a public water system I guess, but I don’t imagine that’s a common issue.
NOOO MY TEETH
i’ve actually heard even “progressives” say fluoride causes low IQs so not particularly surprising i suppose
Anyone who talks to me and dares to call themselves a progressive and then says the words IQ is getting a harsh slap across the face
I will never forgive the nazis for experimentation with fluoride. The other stuff, too, but also fluoride nonsense.
I feel like this presidency is really showing the base/superstructure distinction.
Like, obviously everything that’s happening is in response to the base (declining empire, destruction of the public sphere, etc.)
But there are just so many instances this time around of the fact that we’re being run by ideologically committed morons. Like, removing this shit from the water supply is not, like, a ploy to privatize the fluoridation of water. They’re doing it because they’re conspiracy brained.
And it’s not targeted either, it’s not like they’re pulling funding for fluoridation in heavily black areas or anything like that
They’re genuinely stupid people who actually believe insane conspiracy theories about fluoride and don’t believe in the benefits. There’s no plot. They’re just really really dumb. They’re also evil, but it can’t be understated that they’re dumb.
Daniel Craig’s little speech at the end of Glass Onion describes the current era better than anything else I’ve seen
“It’s so dumb it’s brilliant”
“No! It’s just dumb!”
There’s gotta be a broad overlapping of profoundly stupid and “evil.” The garden-variety evil person probably is just really, really dumb, while a small minority of evildoers are highly intelligent sociopaths.
Of course the more involved they are in organized religion, the easier they probably are to push into weird evil shit, since they’re primed to comply and not question their own actions.
is not, like, a ploy to privatize the fluoridation of water.
But I nevertheless predict that fluoridated bottled water will be on store shelves by the end of the year if it’s not already.
This will not happen. Fluoride is already available to people who can afford it in the form of toothpaste, and toothpaste is a way more effective method of fluoride application than drinking water. The point of fluoridated water isn’t that it’s the best way to prevent tooth decay, compared to toothpaste it really isn’t. The point is that it provides fluoride to literally everyone, even people who can’t afford toothpaste, because everyone drinks water. It is completely pointless as a product.
Kids need fluoride though as their teeth form, toothpaste is not enough
But have you considered: “I drink fluoride water that means I don’t need to brush my teeth.”
Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t this type of guy actually exists. I don’t think there’s anyone who cares enough to buy fluoridated water, but not enough to brush their teeth.
maybe some adhd people who can’t consistently brush but would get the fluoride drink
Ah, but you’re not thinking like a grifter!
Picture this: Fluoride water that sells itself as “showing those stupid republicans” the fluoride wouldn’t be the actual main selling point, it would be so a person can loudly announce what kind of person they are (a smug liberal)
You’re right I failed to consider this, looking at it from this angle I could see it
can’t wait for mandatory methylene blue water
we’ll have the bluest water folks
The florida jewish dude who shot up 2 Israelis in Miami makes more sense now
Florida? More like Fluoride-dont
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floridaman here
now im actually going to have to start using toothpaste again just to get my flouride
and i dont even mean this as a bit you dont need toothpaste it doesnt help with bad breath or cleaning your teeth its only useful for the flouride if you dont get it naturally
This is some real brain expanding third eye open shit
You need to go on Rogan
no im serious not only is toothpaste uneccesary to good oral hygiene but numerous peer reviewed published studies show that not only does it not help you clean your teeth better but brushing without it often leads to better results
another fun one: there is no good science behind flossing. the usa is one of the only countries that still pushes it. some countries that used to push it have stopped because the studies just dont show any significant benefit
Gonna have to ask you to go right ahead and cite those multiple peer reviewed studies that indicate toothpaste and flossing are counterproductive to oral hygiene.
This article talks about a review of studies about flossing but the link is no longer valid: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/health/flossing-teeth-cavities.html?_r=0
As far as I know not a single official dental association in Europe recommends flossing. The UK used to. They stopped. But for flossing the information about it not actually be very effective (or not at all) is all over the internet. Between flossing and toothpaste the flossing stuff is the most dubious. It’s only useful if you have something stuck and need an extra bit of help dislodging it. Or if you just enjoy the feeling? Some people are strange like that.
Here is a study on dry-brushing vs wet-brushing. They are just as effective as each other. (57% vs 58%) So adding some wetness (water) doesn’t do anything. I mention this one as a sort of control: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/idh.12358
Here is a good one that looks at multiple studies from Journal of Clinical Periodontalogy. Main findings - “On average, 49.2% of plaque was removed when brushing was performed with a dentifrice, and 50.3% of plaque was removed when toothbrushing was performed without a dentifrice.” So, dentrifice or “toothpaste”, was actually slightly less effective (though not statistically significantly so) than brushing with it: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27513809/
I can find some more studies if you like. The conventional wisdom and scientifically supported wisdom is that plaque is removed by the mechanical process of brushing. Toothpaste provides fluoride and can be especially beneficial in environments where fluoride is lacking from natural sources. To be clear, there are indigenous people around the world who do not use toothpaste but have a good fluoride content naturally in their water. Such communities who practice regular mechanical teeth cleaning tend to have good dental outcomes.
If you live in the USA or another country that fluoridates your water you are most likely fine (I’m not a dentist so I can’t actually give you any advice). If you also supplement it with something like mouthwash, fluoride powder, toothpaste or anything else fluoridated you are definitely fine. You really do not need to obsess over it at all.
What I will say is a big strike against toothpaste is much of it has all kind of nasty additives. Soaps. Microplastics. All kinds of shit.
As far as control for bad breath brushing and mouthwash do all the work. You don’t need toothpaste at all. If you are concerned about bad breath carry around one of those tiny travel toothbrushes and brush after every meal. You can do it without toothpaste! Super easy to pop into a bathroom and just have a quick brush. That pretty much controls bad breath entirely. In over a decade of not using toothpaste I’ve never had issues with bad breath nor has my wife ever had an issue with my breath. Brush the old food out yo teefs and you good.
So, digging through those articles, I immediately have some concerns.
The first study, funded by toothpaste manufacturers, found no statistically significant difference between random people who may or may not use proper brushing technique being handed a dry brush with no dentifrice and being handed a wet brushing with no dentifrice. The second study was a meta-analysis of other trials that also has the same problems: brushing technique was not a controlled variable, and all tested dentifrices contained SLS.
The big problem is that a lot of toothpastes contain surfactants like SLS or CAPB, which cause the toothpaste to foam and leave behind a smooth effect which is confusing to people. People specifically using a foaming dentifrice have a harder time discerning whether or not they’ve done an adequate job of removing plaque, hence the statistically insignificant but measurable difference in plaque removal between dry brushing without a dentifrice and wet brushing with one.
This definitely needs some more study we’re never going to get because of capitalism.
I would argue that the issue with brushing technique is not relevant to the effectiveness study. Normal people are going to vary in technique. Controlling too strictly for technique does not realistically tell us which is more or less effective in practice. Likewise, we can’t assume the toothpaste users where on average less effective or more effective than the toothpaste nonusers. Like I said, studies keep reinforcing this conclusion. At this point it’s more than reasonable to assume the conclusion that toothpaste doesn’t help with actual brushing is a pretty secure position.
this site isnt ready for oral hygiene trutherism
but unironically im serious. not a fan of toothpaste
I know a lot of people who have sensory issues with toothpaste (which sounds like what you’re describing) have better luck with non-foaming toothpastes, but if that’s still a no-go, a fluoridated oral rinse or mouthwash would probably help you a lot.
Also highly recommend checking out a cheap waterpik clone if you’ve not tried one, they’re actually pretty life changing in much the same way that a bidet is.
i use mouthwash because bacteria and food particles is what causes bad breath, so after brushing i do the rinse.
also use a waterpic maybe once or twice a month if i have food stuck in my teeth, like popcorn but otherwise dont fuck with it. occassionally i can be good to clean out tonsil stones
You should be using fluoride toothpaste regardless of if your water has fluoride or not. Fluoridated water is better than nothing, but fluoride only prevents tooth decay when it’s actually physically in contact with your teeth. Obviously that contact is much more consistent with two minutes of brushing compared to the seconds it takes water to pass through your mouth when you drink.
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the insulting assumption that i take one sip of water per day jfc the internet is amazing when people respond to you they dont even stop and think for like even a moment
im in my 40s with all my teeth even wisdom and no cavities and drink almost exclusively tap water daily so i think ill continue on this course comrade but you rub that chalky shit all over your gums if you like dont let me talk you out of it
I didn’t say any of that but okay. Glad to hear your teeth are in good health. Have a nice rest of your day.
Obviously that contact is much more consistent with two minutes of brushing compared to the seconds it takes water to pass through your mouth when you drink.
you did say exactly this its in the words that you wrote right above mine
you are not very subtly claiming that i dont drink much water during the day in order to get sufficient contact of flouride to my teeth. you know that. i can return microaggression with microaggression with the best of em
fluoride mineralizes and closes your third eye.
lead opens up you up to eternal, spiritual wisdom.
like how pooping the bed and rolling around in it while squealing jibberish turns you into an antennae for Christ.
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Holy fuck these are ADVANCED brainworms
Nice rune profile pic you got there. Triskelion, used by the greeks and the romans. The squared off version is a bit more obvious than the swirl.
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It’s a Nazi symbol related to Nazi worship. Why can’t Nazis just admit what they are? Embarrassed? Too weak to own it? Can’t even admit it to yourself?
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We’d give you the benefit of the doubt but not while you sound like this fam.
I’d assume green hippie usually with swirl style runes but not when they’re spewing the brainworms the fash spew. Even if they’re not fash yet and don’t realise what these symbols are connected to they will be eventually because they’re vulnerable to it.
Fuck you’re weak as shit
This has to be a bit.
lol, we managed to get a crank to come out of the woodwork.
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Notable forum for official narrative believers, hexbear.net
crack a window before you suffocate on all those farts
Unconfirmed rumors
Wow, you sure convinced me with that one!
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Water being an ingredient of pee and poo is also a fact. Why do you drink pee and poo?
Damn, I’m starting to think we need better chemistry schooling in high school, these people you’re replying to are actually beyond help
as you spread unconfirmed rumors about flouride yourself. while theres is decades of scientific studies done on flouride and teeth/caries.
A lot of words, none relevant to the actual issue.
What other things do you think MAGA is on the right side of? Guessing immigration.
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No, MAGA is on the wrong side of most issues including immigration.
Okay, unlucky guess. What issues are they right on though?
Fluoride is not only a nuclear waste byproduct a fact you can look up yourself, it is also a mind altering substance. It’s an ingredient in many antidepressants including Prozac. A fact you can also look up. Just because you haven’t bothered to read up on fluoride doesn’t make people that have incorrect.
I didn’t say any of it was incorrect, but that it was irrelevant. It doesn’t matter if its a nuclear byproduct, it doesn’t matter if its in Prozac, and it doesn’t matter if its mind altering if its at doses not in drinking water. It being a byproduct is a neat fact, but doesn’t tell you that its harmful. None of what you’ve said, even if I grant it to you completely, matters.
being a byproduct is a neat fact, but doesn’t tell you that its harmful
I also would need a source for that. Yes, uranium hexafluoride is a compound used in nuclear enrichment, but conflating any compound with fluorine to the ones used in toothpaste is disingenuous. You might as well just say hydrofluoric acid is dangerous.
That said, even if it were a fission byproduct, (it isn’t), or a byproduct of fusion (also isn’t), there are plenty of completely inert products like ordinary silver.
ingredient in many antidepressants
Water is a key ingredient of piss.
Tell me, do you think SSRIs cause school shootings?
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