Ok so I’ve barely played this game so far, I’m only up to the Blighted Village. But I heard this guy is an annoying as fuck Redditor but so far he’s just been a lovable dork. Does he get worse or something?
Honestly having Moss from The IT Crowd in my party is a breath of fresh air considering the other party members consist of an angry green fascist, a goblin racist, a foppish dandy who immediately tried to cut my throat, and someone called Shadow Fart.
I heard he was more obnoxious before patches. Do tell.
Edit: Oh and Wyll is there too I guess. I unironically forgot he existed lmao
He kept wanting to eat my magic items. Those are MY magic items, Gale, they’re supposed to go in the team stash forever and never get used
His tummy gets full eventually
ok good I don’t need to comment on this thread because this is exactly why I quickly soured on Gale. Especially the way he reacted when I told him “no treat.”
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I’ve never played the game and don’t know who this is, but assume it is because they are all envious of his magnificent head of hair.
Stop licking the damn thing
I heard he was more obnoxious before patches. Do tell.
Everyone was hornier before patches, but especially him
Good god, you mean it was even more horny?
There was something where everyone’s first romance scene was super easy to trigger. His was kinda obnoxious, and felt like him mansplaining magic to the PC if I remember right.
Oh my god, him mansplaining the Weave to my sorceress was fucking infuriating. I live and breathe magic, my guy, I do not need you to lead me in a guided meditation or whatever it is we’re doing!
And then when you find out his backstory it sounds like exactly the kind of thing I would veto if he were a PC in my game. You’re level 1, dude!
They were definitely all(?) high level characters before the brainworm
will
Will could summon greater demons in his backstory, meaning he was lv11 at minimum.
karlach
Karlach cannot have survived as soldier in hell for decades and not leveled up at all, that’s also impossible. Devils and demons are strong
shart
Shart is supposed to be a sharran elite, and all the mobs in the temple are like level 5 at minimum. She was definitely way higher, at least lv 9.
So will being a high level wizard in his backstory is pretty believable. Almost none of these characters work as level 1 characters. Maybe astarion or laezel? Idk
And then when you find out his backstory it sounds like exactly the kind of thing I would veto if he were a PC in my game. You’re level 1, dude!
I always assumed the level 1 bit was a result of the
, but you’re right, the redditor wizard is probably the biggest stretch of that.spoiler
Keeping his hand as a souvenir is funny during an evil Dark Urge playthrough.
Various spoilers.
Yeah, it’s pretty silly. His backstory was probably near or at Epic level
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if he genuinely thought he could fuck around with Karsus’ Folly - that’s one of the few things that would have your peer superwizards (who mostly dislike each other) joining forces to put a stop to.
I think pretty much all the character’s backgrounds were a poor choice on their part. You don’t need a shred of backstory upfront if the writing is up to snuff, and having theirs be so high-level kinda makes everything happening pretty low stakes - the intro cinematic with the spelljammer vs dragonriders is basically a level 20 action sequence, and then you’re slogging through mud and goblins hearing about how cool everyone else used to be, having just seen how cool the stuff you don’t get to do is.
Plus Elminster could genuinely solve all of it in about three hours, so he shouldn’t have even been there to say:
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“So I hear you’re an unstable antimagical nuclear weapon now Gale?”.
Then teleport away without doing anything about it.
But eh, the story and stakes are all over the place.
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It isn’t even actually mind flayers! It’s just mid-level clerics of the three gods who job harder than Skeletor, with a plan so intensely stupid - fucking around with Illithid - that it can only function via the power of a saturday morning cartoon villain’s mcguffin.
It’s… like the Battle Angel Alita movie. It likes the source material too much, so it crams in too many elements from much later and weakens itself in the process. Or perhaps the poison of escalation.
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It isn’t just hints of the mind flayer space empire, it’s a netherese superweapon, no wait, it’s also the Dead Three! The city you’ll reach in thirty hours will be destroyed - and the entire world hangs in the balance! Only your level 12 characters can save the universe!
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Yeah from what people were saying he acted like a nice guy™ prior to patches? That would make me hate him too. If he’s still like that I might yeet him off a cliff.
There was also a large straight cis-male gamer audience that does not understand that rejecting someone’s romantic advances (and/or did not understand that he was making romantic advances) is not a mean/rude thing to do, leading to situations like this hilarious comic.
I think specifically feeding him magic items was quickly filling up his “NPC likes you” meter now that I think of it
I’ve only fed him one thing and haven’t gotten anything that hints at starting a romance path yet. I don’t plan on romancing any characters so that’s fine with me lol.
There was also a bug where he’d just… Say lines that were meant for characters romancing him abruptly.
On my first playthrough it got so bad I couldn’t do his actual quest because he kept talking about how much he loved me
Ok I take it back that sounds like the worst thing ever lmao
If you don’t get why people find Gale annoying you might be the Gale of your group
I am a huge annoying dweebus so that is a distinct possibility
Also I like eating artifacts
I’ve only played about 8 hours of bg3 because my laptop sucks, but I completely missed Gale lol. I failed the check to pull him out of the portal and now he’s just… Gone. Idk where the fuck he is.
It’s fine with me though, I have Shadowheart and Astarion and I’m basic and attracted to them
I will admit, a part of me likes Astarion even though I know he’s a manipulative, self serving shit.
I don’t know enough about Shadowheart to judge her
They all have layers - it’s pretty fun
I like Astarion because he’s a manipulative, self serving shit. I let him drink my character’s blood until they died just because I didn’t want to say no to him lol
All I know about Shadowheart is that she’s pretty and nice and gets white hair later in the game, and that’s enough for me to like her
gets white hair later in the game, and that’s enough for me to like her
All the stress got to her
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He’s just some guy lmao
He’s both incredibly horny and also incredibly up his own ass
The bit where
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You can manupulate the moon lantern ritual circle and he’s like “oh you better leave it to an expert”
and if you dare to try it without him he gets pissy at you and basically says you’re not competent enough for it to have been anything other than luck. I actually hated the little shit after that. My wizard PC has better stats than you, dumbass cracker magician!Then you learn he got into a toxic relationship with the goddess of magic where he of course knows better than literal gods and gets himself super cursed with a magic WMD that could kill half a continent - and he still hasn’t learned his lesson and tries to guilt and emotionally manipulate the PC into letting him control the artifact of doom macguffin! I hate Gale lmao
Oh that explains it, I haven’t got to that part yet lol
I liked him at first too, then I learned more about his backstory & personality 🫤
Oh no I’m not looking forward to that then. No spoilers please tho
I’m around the same point in BG3 right now and was feeling the exact same way about Gale and most of the companions. Most of them are awful and I don’t understand the hate Gale gets!
We have fascist frog, christofascist, fascist with goblin characteristics, and the creep who assaults you in your sleep, and the most hated one is the guy that thinks you’re pretty cool?
I still haven’t met Halsin, Jaheira, or Minsc but so far my list of “not-shitty-companions” is Karlach, Wyll, Gale, [Large gap], Astarion, Shadowheart, Minthara, Laezel.
If Lae’zel has haters I’m among them, if she has one hater it’s me, if she has no haters I’m dead.
I have no idea why Lae’zel has so much fans, she a supremacist. I dunno, people are saying these characters have layers so maybe she gets better.
Laezel gets much better if you push her in the right direction throughout the story.
Yeah she has a redemption arc. It takes a while and doesn’t really make up for her, but I do see why people could warm up to her because of it tbh.
I can fix her. And also, somehow, we flirted by fighting each other, and she had a powerful spell in her inventory and just dropped kicked my ass. And:
considering the other party members consist of an angry green fascist, a goblin racist
named Tav
Gottem
I had him in my party the first go 'round before they patched him to be less pushy about entering a relationship. But even now he’s a bit of a twat especially if you play either a wizard or a sorcerer where he’s frequently talking down to you despite not actually being any better at the whole magic thing. There’s one conversation in act 2 earns him a permanent place on the bench in my opinion. And the only reason he gets that is because:
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If you have him in the party, didn’t use any tadpole powers (including tadpole dialogue skill checks) or assimilate any tadpoles, and freed Orpheus, you can avoid having to turn any party member into a mindflayer and skip the last boss fight by having Gale climb onto the nether brain and blow himself up.
Shadow Fart
please, it’s Shart.
But also that’s my goth wife and I will have satisfaction, owlShe’s cool. She seems nice once she stops trying to stir shit like some kind of catty teen.
Also she approves when you are nice to animals so she must be good.
Hm, very well. I shall let this slight go, this time. Watch yourself, your wings and farty ways wont protect you forever.rolls for fart skill check
Critical failure
i remember taking the ability to talk to animals and Shart being like “yes, that was a very nice cat” lmao
Before the patches, Gale’s romance meter would fill up really really fast and off of non-flirty, friendly interactions. “Sure Gale, I’d like to hear more about magic some time but I’m busy now” would basically be enough for him to become aggressively interested in you, fuelling a lot of Nice Guy type jokes about him
I feel like this is a substantial amount of video game romance writing, which leads me to go “wait, what? romance begins now?” (there are some better written ones, but I feel like this is regular for many cRPGs)
(the romances in Shadowrun: Calfree In Chains were ok, though rather linear)
Honestly even early BG3 had well done romance, just Gale in particular was a horndog
nice, I didn’t know about these extra campaigns for Shadowrun, need to try them sometime
fucking hell, this explains it
i swear i had three conversations with him before he was like “please join me down by the river, i need to express my feelings to you”.
my man, you told me you like magic and that you need to eat enchanted swords to live, i don’t even bring you on quests - simmer downI feel like this still happens, I started my playthrough in the patch before last and him telling me he needed someone to talk to translated into him wanted to slam like immediately.
Honestly I was sorely disappointed by the social elements of the game in general - probably because of all the hype the game got. Very often I wasn’t able to give the kind of answer I felt I wanted to in a given situation, and in general I wasn’t able to play my character with the personality I had in mind much at all.
i quite like gale and never got the hate either
im convinced at least part of the hate was, prior to some patches, he was basically guaranteed to hit on you, which probably made straight men uncomfortable
