Hey all, I know a lot of people are migrating to private torrent sites, and OK, that’s a choice. However there are still a lot of people on the public torrents who are just leeching and not seeding.

I have several popular (old/classic) movies in my feed that I have uploaded (literally) 1000x the original and many more in the several hundred times. That’s fine, I choose to support the community, but it’s pretty depressing when I look at the seeders count and those movies have 2 or 3 other seeders.

This only works if you share. Please don’t cut off as soon as you’ve downloaded.

And on a personal note, if anyone has audio or video files for “Machine Gun Fellatio” also listed as MGF could you please start seeding in particular

“MGF Pack 1”

“MGF+Pack+2”

“MGF+Pack+3”

If I can get the download completed I’ll keep them up permanently, but unfortunately as they are obscure/rare I’m getting nowhere.

Rules don’t permit me showing the torrent link of course. DM if that would help

      • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        17 days ago

        Bandwidth & speed, mostly

        I have fast internet for my area and they match my UL to my dl (a rarity) but my seedbox in the Netherlands had the capacity for 5x that bandwidth, meaning basically all of my torrents download lickety split and I’m usually high in the favored seeder list due to my connection, allowing me to quickly earn my ratio back

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        Not a bad idea, all things considered. The only issue is that I would need collo space and a VPS in non-DMCA land. The hardware behind a seedbox shouldn’t be that crazy anyways, just a lot of bandwidth and a lot of storage

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    17 days ago

    I seed, but I’m behind a NAT I don’t control without port forwarding, so I’m not a good seed.

    Maybe I will do the seedbox VPS thing… after I get employed again.

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      To keep things simple, they must be left in the same location as wherever the download client puts them, and the client stays open. I use an organiser and very useful tool called Radarr, it monitors your downloads and it lets you hardlink the video files once they’ve completed, which both allows the download client to keep seeding, and the media server you may use to keep using it.

      A hardlink involves some intimate knowledge of how storage works, it can be done manually but the best option is to let a program handle it for you. Note: To hardlink, the download location and media library location must be on the same storage device, and the Sonarr user must have write access to the downloaded file. For me, group write access didn’t help. This way it will not duplicate storage.

      Generally, some areas and Internet Service Providers might crack down on torrenting of any sort, so using a VPN is a smart way to not get your IP noticed. My area’s authority and ISP don’t care, so I’m not too sure.

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      Just after you downloaded it. Keep the program open so you are seeing automatically… Meaning others can download the content from your computer. Assuming you correctly configured your firewall/router to open up the right ports.

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    17 days ago

    Hey all, I know a lot of people are migrating to private torrent sites, and OK, that’s a choice. However there are still a lot of people on the public torrents who are just leeching and not seeding.

    Effect. Cause.

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      You’ve had a good answer by letstakealook, but just to expand on one point, you need to leave your torrent application (qbittorrent or whatever) running in the background for an extended period. If you close the app and don’t load it again after you’ve got the download then you’re not seeding - seeding means to share it to others after you’ve finished downloading

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      I’m not sure why people downvoted instead of educating. To answer your question: no, it isn’t. It has been awhile since I’ve used torrents, so this may be a little out of date, but typically, within your P2P client you’ll have active “seeds,” including while you’re downloading. Some people immediately delete files from “active” after their download is complete. It is generally considered proper etiquette to leave the torrent active (at least) until it you have uploaded approximately 2x what you have downloaded. This helps keep torrents active and relatively quick, while not placing the bulk of the bandwidth burden on a few seeders.

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        Also… Low seeder torrents. That’d a spot to shine if you got to prioritize. Main stream shit has a lot of turn over.

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      There is not always demand, you need to leave the torrent app running in the background when ever you have the PC on - then when someone wants it you’ll get a connection.

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    You see, the problem is that radar and sonarr move my files into designated folders. That is a good thing, but it also makes it so that my download client can’t find it again to continue uploading.

    I have now set it up so that I keep a copy in my downloads folder for a week, but I don’t have the space to permanently keep two copies of all my downloads.

    It would be great if radarr could tell my download client where the file has moved to so that it can keep on seeding indefinitely.

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          I know, but they didnt specify if it was on the same drive or not.

          By default Sonarr and Radarr both copy files, not move them, so the files shouldnt be disappearing from the original drive.

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        Yes, but hardlinking doesn’t work if the files aren’t on the same petition.

        My downloads folder is on the main harddisk.
        The files are moved to an external ssd.

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          Have you looked into Remote Path mappings? I have not had to employ this myself, but my understanding is this allows you to avoid file duplication when your *arr and torrent client are using different filesystems.

          Maybe I’m mis-remembering though…

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          By default both Sonarr and Radarr copy files, not move them. If they’re being removed, something else is likely causing that. Some torrent clients have options to remove files after downloads are complete, maybe you have that turned on?

          Telling your client where the file has been moved to wouldn’t generally work, since Sonarr and Radarr will reorganize and rename files, so you couldn’t keep seeding from them.

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        17 days ago

        I haven’t gotten around to finishing my stack but i could’ve sworn that’s the default behavior

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          I believe it is, but I don’t think it always has been. I’m not sure if they automatically enabled it for existing installs when it was added.

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    Really! 😅 I hate the elitism, interviews, etc of private trackers, so even though I have the knowledge and seed constanly, I only download from public trackers, in order to seed content that will remain public and accessible by everyone

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      I’m on IPT and TL and getting ratio on them took fucking forever. It’s basically impossible to do via seeding because everything gets flooded with seeders instantly. Occasionally they have stuff I can’t find elsewhere but I mostly use public ones. If I didn’t have to maintain a ratio on the private ones to download I would be seeding so much more of their shit. IMO seeding time is a much better metric to use to enforce seeding than ratio.

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        As a noobie, I’ve just downloaded a couple things I wanted that were also free leech coincidentally and then just kept seeding them. And now I have 515GB up and 87GB down. I know it’s nothing excessive, but I’m really not a hard core torrent user. I just fill in gaps mostly, where I was not able to catch something in the theatre or on a stream.

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        Can’t confirm that.
        I have a 2TB seedbox and accumulated almost 20TB in upload by just being there and seeding about 40 releases. Mostly the Looney Tunes release.
        Not that difficult if you seed 24/7.

        At best my daily upload (excluding public) is around 25-75 GiB

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            We are also capped bro.
            Not all slots are unlimited gbit.
            My own slot had a basis speed of 200 mbps symmetric.
            And often I can only hit a max upload speeds of 1-10 mbps and rarely more with less seeders on public trackers.

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            I do it from home and do just fine.
            My «trick» was to only download complete seasons and movies larger than 14 GB to get loads of freeleech to build ratio and just keep seeding them.

            I’m at >10 ratio on TL and stopped caring about sizes as the pool of old files outseed anything new I download.

            But I get your point: seedboxes have made it a lot harder to do effortlessly from home

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      My, admittedly limited, experience with private trackers is pretty much the only time I have seen power tripping worse than Reddit mods.

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      Yeah, private trackers really think they’re the best thing in the world, but Usenet is 10x better for half the effort. My current ratio is ~30:1 for public torrents, but I pretty much only use them on the rare occasion that Usenet is missing something. I honestly couldn’t give a fuck about private trackers when Usenet exists.

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        Do you know any good Usenet guide out there? The ones I found were confusing, I don’t even know how to start really

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          Usenet requires an indexer and a provider. An indexer indexes content. A provider is a server that hosts the content. Content is split into 1MB chunks.

          The manual way. You look for content you want on the website of the indexer and download the nzb file. You download the nzb file, which a list of the 1MB chunks and put it in your usenet download software. The downloader then downloads it.

          The automated way. There is a software suite called *arr. It’s not exclusive to Usenet; you can also use it with torrents. You search for the content you’re interested in and the software does the rest.

          Trash-guides and servarr are popular guides.

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          Not off the top of my head.

          You can think of Usenet as a sort of second internet. Usenet providers sell subscriptions to access their servers, just like ISPs sell subscriptions to access the internet. Each Usenet provider has their own servers, and multiple providers will group together and share data. These clusters of shared servers are called News Groups. Each news group occasionally has different stuff on them, but most have started cooperating to try and establish parity. So in most cases, you only need one news group subscription.

          There are occasionally updated news group maps that get posted, and they usually look something like this:

          The important point is that the providers in the same news groups will all essentially have the same content.

          Subscriptions come in two different forms. The first is a pretty standard monthly subscription. You pay for a month, you get unlimited access for a month. The other form is a pre-paid plan, sort of like pre-paid cell phones. You buy a certain amount of data, and then can download that much data. So maybe you buy 500GB, and then when you hit your 500GB cap it either charges you again for another block of data, or it cuts you off if you don’t have it set to auto-renew.

          Most Usenet users will have both types of sub; They’ll use a monthly unlimited subscription for their primary news group, and then have a prepaid plan for a second news group (or just fall back to torrents). The idea is that the vast majority of your downloads happen via your primary news group, and you only fall back to your prepaid plan (or torrents) if something isn’t available on the primary news group. So you’re not constantly burning through a prepaid data cap.

          Browsing Usenet is done with a news reader. This is a program that acts sort of like a torrent program does for torrents. It connects to the usenet servers, and you can browse what they have. Most usenet subscriptions will also come with a free news reader download, or there are a few FOSS ones you can use instead. Or if you’re using the *arr suite, you configure it to search for files automatically based off of certain criteria, and it handles the searching for you.

          The important point of Usenet is that it’s not peer-to-peer. It’s more like a dead drop, where an uploader drops the file onto the news server, and then other users can download that file for a certain amount of time. Each provider has their own retention period (how long they’ll hold onto files, that got uploaded) so that’s something worth looking at when you’re shopping for a provider; Longer retention periods will mean finding older content is easier. So you’re not going to be stuck waiting on seeds or buried in leeches, because the server already has the entire file ready to go. In my regular use, Usenet downloads regularly max out my gigabit connection.

          Worth noting that copyright takedowns are the primary reason for failed downloads. DMCA takedown requests will still affect Usenet, but only if their servers are in the US. Try to search for NTD providers instead. NTD is the Dutch implementation of DMCA. It still results in takedowns, but it doesn’t happen nearly as often.

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              I’m trying to keep it simple, since they said every guide they found was too confusing. But sure, you can stop reading right there if you want; I’m just a random person on the internet.

  • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Unfortunately, I am behind CG-NAT, so it always barely uploads anything.

    I wish it could work like WebRTC or Tailscale. There could just be servers like the trackers, but to help establish this direct connection between peers.

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      Airvpn supports port forwarding. Well, other do too, but im only familiar with that one. I suggest you look into it; even just for privacy

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    My problem is that the file I download is not in the right format, doesn’t have any metadata embedded, doesn’t have subs embedded, and doesn’t match my file naming convention. In fact the way media is packaged, I don’t know how anyone that cares about these things is able to seed.