• Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Simon Bolivar tried in the 19th century, but individual leaders had their own ambitions. Maybe a EU style form of government could work better though. I’m not sure how willing some countries are to work together nowadays though. Quite a few grievances among them still.

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    Guys I gotta say if the working class of the world doesnt unite our only options will be auth/distopian hellholes

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      Only until the biosphere is completely incapable of supporting life, which won’t take too long. So we’ve got that going for us, which is nice

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      How are they supposed to unite when the working class are kept desparate with low wages and longer hours? They’re too exhausted after working 40+ hours/week to inform themselves for any length of time or fight. They would rather relax with TV/movies/games/a book/etc. A general strike is damn near impossible without massive mutual aid networks forming first.

      The capitalist class had all of this planned out from the get-go. We need to respond with force (a general strike; I do not condone violence). We need mass solidarity, and we are seeing that build especially after January 20th. We just need to plan well by building mutual aid networks and by directing their anger towards an actual solution. I like to direct people to Richard Wolff and his worker-coop focused idiology.

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    My first thought was “oh thank God Canada will be safe for refugees to run to” not even particularly for myself, but for a lot of my friends.

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    So…when do we build a wall around the US, they want to isolate themselves so let’s help

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      I mean, the wall is still being built so just wait it out. That way the US will pay for it.

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    It’s hardly all sunshine and lollipops in Australia, but the USA has kindly shown us that it could be way worse.

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    Australia is the source of many of the USAs problems. This won’t last long, or have any positive changes.

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          Ahhhhh. While I do hate that man I wouldn’t blame Australia for him. Complete bastards can arise from every nationality.

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            I hear you, but as someone who has seen my country torn apart by Murdoch and his propaganda empire, I think the OC’s statement is far more fair than the up/down votes they have received. 🤷‍♂️

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              Lumping demographics together because of the actions of a few or just one guy isn’t something I’m comfortable with.

              Hell Canada would like to see our country collapse because our senile orange criminal jackass president decided to brain fart talk about annexing them and I rather not be lumped into that crowd.

              I miss being on friendly terms with our allies and I don’t want to think ill of their peoples.

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                We don’t want to see the US collapse. We want to punish the aggression against us. If Trump were to disappear overnight, and efforts were made to repair the relationship between our countries, I think it would relatively quickly go back to a semblance of normality, but surely there would always be some hesitation, knowing that all it takes to fuck it all up is another bad election which could happen at any time.

                We don’t hate America, we hate the current state of it. In the same way that sanctions work against governments that are doing awful things, we’re all, as a collective, putting efforts into trying to make our aggressors face consequences.

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                  I hope Canada takes every necessary step to ensure its people remain safe and prosper.

                  Please remember that the American agressors are a minority and literal hundreds of millions of United States residents would rather just be on good terms with Canada.

                  I personally wish my countrymen would stop being so racist against Mexico.

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              Nah fuck that noise. Dude might be Australian but he went to the country that really encouraged his vileness. He didn’t learn all that shite in oz. Same thing is happening with musk, not born in the US but goes there because thats the home of the greed and power hunger. All the worlds rich and vile go there or someplace as vile.

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              He owns our media too, we just don’t believe everything we’re told at face value it seems. The media was very much in favour of the liberals (our right wing party) this election and it’s shaping up to be their worst ever result in an election.

              Not to mention he gave up his Australian citizenship in 1985. 40 years ago.

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              He’s South African who holds a dual citizenship. And Canada are putting his citizenship on a bill with a petition to have it taken away for potential of siding with and motivating someone who is committing war crimes against the safety of Canada.

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          The Americans had it coming after the coup they pulled off on Whitlam.

          Bloodless or not the USA can get fucked.

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            Why do you want me to get fucked over?

            I have never done anything to you. Considering the amount of struggle I have dealt with living in American society I can tell you right now I didn’t benefit from that or most evil actions those with power in my country have undertaken.

            Do I get to blame all Australians for the death of the Great Barrier Reef? No, that would be ridiculous because most Australians aren’t the owners of mineral extracting corporations.

            I want nothing but peace and prosperity for the people of Australia and I wished they had the same feelings for me.

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              Are you the USA? At this point I’m mostly indifferent to the suffering of US citizens though I do relish seeing the victims of leopards eating faces.

              Also I wouldn’t be so quick to use the Great Barrier Reef as an example, as those mineral extracting corporations are why the CIA did their coup on Whitlam.

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                I’m a citizen of the USA because I was born here. I voted for Democrats every single election since I turned 18, the leopards didn’t eat my face they slit my throat.

                You’re talking to someone that is currently suffering. I’m fucking trying to stave off poverty. What is wrong with you? The people of the United States are not an ambiguous block that represents a body politic, they’re flesh and blood people.

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                  So? You’re a citizen but you are not the USA.

                  Without the USA’s interference my country could have a sovreign wealth fund over double the size of Norways.

                  So I guess you could say I’ve been angry about the intereference with my country but now I’m laughing as the US tears itself apart. It feels like some small consolation prize for my country being robbed.

                  Not everything is about you, which I’m sure is just shocking because Americans always think they’re the centre of the universe.

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      Look, you’re not wrong that we did you (and the rest of the world) pretty dirty with Rupert Murdoch and I do apologise on our behalf for that - but the USA’s problems are it’s own shitty foundations; and have been around longer than we’ve been founded (re: colonised).

      You do realise he took over 99% of our news/media outlets as his own personal mouth piece, before he ever came your way? We didn’t just vote in a Trump though, quite the opposite to be honest, so…uh…hm.

      Might wanna’ dig a lil’ deeper

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    Gotta say, today was a much-needed dose of hope here in Australia. So refreshing to see our nation’s leader act with dignity and empathy for people, and actually have a plan to make things better.

    It feels like Dutton’s campaign was nothing but ‘Don’t vote for Labor’ instead of ‘here’s what we’re going to do’.

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      In Canada it was a carbon copy of that. Name calling and smear campaign… and when asked what THEY would do? « Lower taxes! » …. Ok… but how? « You’ll see!! »

      … No thanks 🙂‍↔️

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      Dear Australian, and fellow citizen of the world: you are so right, and Canada was afflicted with much of the same problem.

      As such, your country is in inspiration to those of us in the United States - and the world at large.

      So, yeah, I’ve been blasting Australian rock music. Thank you so much and have a great day!

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    Bro, at least half of Americans are still out there like SpongeBob and Patrick, with no fucking idea that in less than three weeks, there will be no groceries on the shelves.

    The amount of “blissful ignorance” in this country is out of control. People need to be shook.

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    Canada has only put it off for a few years. The liberals have been in power for a long time and people were already itching for a change.

    It isn’t like the conservatives did poorly They turned out tones of votes, the only reason they are not in power is because the left United to keep them out, essentially decimating the other left wing parties.

    The next election we have will very likely go to the conservatives when the left splits again.

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        Ford goes national, party factions hard, reverse Reform Party lol, reconciles under Ford, Canada gets its Trump years, not months, after the US swings right as is tradition.

        Sigh. I hate this. We are so fucked and climate and H5N1 aren’t on fucking pause.

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          reconciles under Ford

          Ford is one of the personae most non grata among the Maple MAGA crowd, so that’s (thankfully) a hard no. A more likely scenario I think is a split back into Reform and PC, with PCs peeling off a lot of Bloc support in QC as well as CPC support in ON and Atlantic and becoming viable that way.

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      Itching for a change for the better. Not worse. Important detail that needs to be described in the campaign. Peepeepoopoo is also not a good leader especially when the Trudeau effect was the only thing that changed the outcome.

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        Doesn’t matter what they want.

        The only real option for right wing voters is the conservatives so they will keep voting blue.

        The only real option for liberal voters not happy with the current state of things is the NDP.

        So the NDP pulls votes from the liberals and the conservatives will be in power.

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          You assume the ndp dissappear because they vote ndp instead of libs? That’s not how Canadian politics works. The ndp simply become a dance partner to the libs to vote against the blue whenever they introduce something insane in HOC. They become a majority together to keep the cons in check. For ndp voters they feel safe in either party on the bipartisan angle. This election was just special once trump was the topic.

          This is why the 172 is a magic number because it means a majority doesnt get checked. All other parties cannot add up to that number to fight in HOC.

          A number that so long as ndp and bloc exist along side the libs: they are a threat to the blue.

          This election the blue were trying to steal from the libs and ndp and bloc.they managed to steal about 20 seats.

          Bloc sacrificed a lot in this election. Ndp too. They lost their party status.

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            If the house of commons was comprised of the popular vote of the country maybe but it isn’t. The vote splits in each riding and on the riding level they lose and it becomes a conservative seat. In deeply liberal ridings like downtown Toronto the NDP and liberals might trade places but anywhere where the vote is close they both lose.

            That is why FPTP trends towards two parties. That is why there isn’t the Canadian alliance and PC parties anymore.