Law is summarized as:
Prohibited actions include (1) refusing to do business with companies organized under the laws of the boycotted country, if the refusal is pursuant to an agreement with or request from the country or IGO imposing the boycott; (2) refusing to employ any U.S. person on the basis of race, religion, sex, or national origin; and (3) furnishing information about whether someone is associated with charitable or fraternal organizations that support the boycotted country.
So it seems like if you decide not to buy a shirt made in Israel because the EU suggests a boycott, you go to jail and/or get fined. Clear violation of the 1st ammendment.
Practically, how do you prosecute someone for not voluntarily consuming a good or service?
I’m guessing you can’t but this might be aimed at businesses where there could be memos maybe?
Even then that only works if they specificy that it’s because of a boycott, they could refuse to do business because the other guy smelt like a vegetarian omelette MRE which would be a valid reason. Anti-boycott laws are pretty universally easy to get around since a boycott functions on the principal of “I’m not buying that” which is pretty hard to prove the reasoning to.
fyi a vegetarian omlette is just an omlette, you’re probably thinking vegan, also yeah vegans are so annoying for randomly bringing it up huh
No, I know what I said. The naming scheme for military shit can be a bit weird but for the Vomellete in particular it’s because they were planning on bringing back a ham and eggs MRE equivalent. They never got to it since the Vomellete was so fucking bad, it was so bad that stevemre1989 gagged which is impressive since he has eaten food from the 1800s.
it didn’t really register that we’re talking about military rations
i was talking more generally, vegetarian diet includes eggs and milk, so idk what else they might have added, maybe some old unused cheese from the cheese caves
It’s for harassment. Even shit lawsuits cost serious money to defend. Yeah, it’s unwinnable, but but the company defending might choose to not publicly side with a boycott or engage in one, which is the goal of these apocalypse seeking lunatics.
Also, lawyers don’t take civil rights cases anymore since the Supreme Court ruled the lawyer couldn’t get paid out of government reparations to the victims. Constitutional violation cases take time and a shit load of money to prosecute, something most victims don’t have.
There was a recent decision continuing this trend.
The courts won’t enforce this right, because of freedom of speech, right?
It’s already law in a huge chunk of land controlled by the regime.
https://www.newsweek.com/pro-palestinian-protest-states-colleges-illegal-bds-1895292
Freedom of what? Sounds like something communist to me /s
Freedom of what?
😆 I dunno why I thought this was so funny lmao.
My brain immediately saw the meme of the the blond woman “inquiring intensifies” Edit: Like this!
The bill got pulled!
Good. Holy 💩
For now. Let’s see what happens when it’s budget time again. They’ll probably bury it in there because we live in hell.
Yep, how the government works. Keep spamming a bill that the general public doesn’t want until it sticks. But then no such efforts to repeal it and we’re stuck with the flaming piece of shit.
5 Democrats are cosponsors:
- Josh Gottheimer - NJ-5
- Jared Moskowitz - FLA-23
- Joseph Morrell - NY-25
- Donald Davis - NC-1
- Laura Gillen - NY-4
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/867/all-info
Dear lord. Why are Dems getting involved in pushing fascism?
they dont care about the fascism aspect, they care that it guarantees them their seats, just like %90 of all the politicians.
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Same as it ever was
Wer hat uns verraten…? Sozialdemokraten…
There have always been liberal collaborators to fascism, this isn’t new.
Yes, which is why we should vote against democrats forever!!!
TRUMP 2028!!!
Edit: Y’All learned nothing from history.
German communist accelerationists went into the oven just like everyone else.
German communist accelerationists went into the oven just like everyone else.
Lmao. Yep, but not the liberal collaborators. Convenient for them, too - not just because they didn’t die but because they got rid of those pesky communists.
Who said all Democrats? These specific few are voting against us.
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The American government platform. Don’t try to single out the Dems for this.
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Idk, I think the dems have a bit more culpability than people want to admit since they aren’t just committing the same war crimes as the republicans, but suppressing the opposition to it in their own party, too.
Not that republicans wouldn’t do the same thing if any opposition existed within their own base to begin with, but democrats are doing it even as they know their base actively resents them for it. That says something extra about their culpability.
Maybe, but when they went too hard, he applied pressure. Trump offered to take over and help in the genocide (Middle East Riviera plan).
Democrats are not good, but unfortunately, those idiots are temporarily needed to dump out the fascists.
Politics in FPTP is a bit like a bus, and if you cannot get a bus where you need to go, get one in roughly the right direction.
The amount of “Genocide Joe” Lemmyers who helped cement genocide Trump are complicit in what is effectively a mass starvation. At least Biden tried to step in with supplies when Israel stopped last time.
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Well this is 5 people. You cannot really compare these 5 with AOC for example.
The only way Trump goes is through Democrats right now. It’s unfortunate, but unfortunately a fact.
I’m not defending Dems or think they are good, but it is the only realistic play right now.
AOC and Bernie are nothing but tokens
Ah yes the people who denounced the genocide are at fault while those who voted for the party doing the genociding are the real victims.
This is opinion manipulation and genocide apologia. Can’t believe the mod allows that shit
Biden gave zero genuine pressure to end the genocide. Instead of implementing a weapons embargo, he sent tens of billions worth of weapons used to prolong the genocide.
One Year of Empty Rhetoric From the White House on Israel’s Wars
From the MEMO article:
The Biden administration allowed Israel unprecedented leeway to carry out its military offensive, despite the enormous death and devastation it inflicted on Gaza. Former Israeli ambassador, Michael Herzog, made a startling admission about Biden’s support: “God did the State of Israel a favour that Biden was the president during this period. We fought [in Gaza] for over a year and the administration never came to us and said, ‘ceasefire now.’ It never did. And that’s not to be taken for granted.” His remarks encapsulated a broader sentiment that the White House gave Benjamin Netanyahu all the political space he needed to execute the military offensive, which has claimed the lives of more than 52,000 Palestinians, mainly women and children.
Even the proposal to ethnically cleanse the entire population of Gaza, or ‘empty Gaza of palesinians,’ by removing them to neighboring countries, was first proposed by the Biden admin behind closed doors
The diplomat said Egypt rejected similar proposals from the Biden administration and European countries early in the war, which was sparked by Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023 attack into southern Israel. The earlier proposals were broached privately, while Trump announced his plan at a White House press conference alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
When Israel went too hard on siege he did try to step in. Not enough, but the attempted but failed aid pier was far more than Trump has done or would do.
Also, he pressured and got a crossing reopened “Within hours of Mr Biden’s call, Israel said it would open the Erez crossing in northern Gaza and the port of Ashdod in southern Israel to aid, and pledged to drastically improve security co-ordination with groups delivering assistance to Palestinians.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68773400
As I made clear, I’m not defending Biden or claiming he’s good. Thousands have died and I fear if the situation doesn’t change soon, I fear it could be a magnitude of 10 higher. Trump is showing zero signs of any pressure. If anything, he cheers Israel on. It absolutely disturbs me, that through resentment of Biden folks would rather see Trump stay in and have hundreds of thousands of more Gazans die through starvation.
I will say, those that keep propping Trump up are complicit in this. If starvation is happening and you don’t want change, you want this situation.
The first link mentions and puts into context everything you mention and much more. Tens to hundreds of thousands have died under Biden’s watch alone, he is a committed Zionist. The actions were performative and used as a way to justify the ongoing material support for the genocide. You are defending Biden here, you even grossly minimized the death count, not to mention the total destruction of the educational, medical, and historical sites within Gaza.
Pro-palestinian advocates have been pointing this out for the entire duration of the genocide under the Biden admin because it has been clear that a change in foreign policy to a weapons embargo was critical to both end the ceasefire and significantly increase the chances of the Democratic Party to win against Trump. The party’s decision to instead prioritize support for the genocide over focusing on earning as many votes as possible to win against Trump was deliberate. Corporate interests and neoliberalism are responsible for Democrats adoption of fascist policies and controlled opposition to the fascism of the Republican party. The Democratic Party has gone against the will of the vast majority of their constituents, gone against international law, and against the morality of opposing genocide.
There is no excuse.
Manufactured consent for genocide is completely unacceptable.
The rhetoric coming out of the White House, when it has been focused on peace or restraint, rather than continuous war, has been undercut at every turn by its actions. The constant supply of weapons — $17.9 billion of bullets, bombs, shells, and other military aid in the past year — has allowed Israel to keep waging its war on Gaza, and in recent weeks, expand that war to Lebanon and threaten to escalate its conflict with Iran. Despite documentation of U.S. weapons being used in probable war crimes, and credible allegations that Israel is committing genocide in its war on Gaza, the bombs have continued to flow.
March 2024
Trucks filled with humanitarian aid supplies sit in Egypt at the Rafah crossing into Gaza. Many human rights organizations accuse Israel of intentionally blocking aid. Later reports show the Biden administration was aware of the blockage of aid, which is a violation of international law, and continued to send military aid anyway.
On March 22, Congress approves $3.8 billion in military aid to Israel.
On March 25, the U.N. Security Council passed a resolution calling for a ceasefire for the month of Ramadan. The U.S. abstains from the vote, but its representative says that the U.S. supports “some of the critical objectives in this nonbinding resolution.”
“Nothing, nothing has changed about our policy. Nothing,” said Kirby about U.S. policy and support of Israel after the U.N. vote.
May 2024
On May 6, Hamas accepted a ceasefire deal proposed by Egypt and Qatar. Israel began bombing Rafah, where hundreds of thousands of Palestinians had sought refuge, with plans for a major ground operation.
On May 8, the U.S. halts a shipment of 2,000-pound and 500-pound bombs to Israel. Israel goes ahead with a more limited operation in Rafah for the rest of the month. The U.S. begins facilitating aid shipments into Gaza via a “humanitarian pier” constructed by the U.S. military on the beach in Gaza.
Prosecutors with the International Criminal Court, which oversees war crimes committed by nations, requested arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, along with Hamas leaders. The court alleges Israel targeted civilians with bombings and starvation.
On May 26, Israel strikes a refugee camp in Rafah — within a designated safe zone — killing 46 people, mostly civilians, including 23 women, children, and elderly Palestinians. Two days later, Israeli tanks bombard another refugee camp in an apparent safe zone, Al-Mawasi, just outside Rafah, killing 21 others. Among the dead are 12 women. It would be the first of three attacks at the refugee camp in the ensuing month.
The Biden administration rejects calls for further change in policy toward Israel
June 2024
Over the course of the following week, Netanyahu says that Israel would not cease fighting until “the destruction” of Hamas’ military.
On June 8, Israeli forces use an area near the U.S. military’s “humanitarian pier” to launch an attack on the Nuseirat refugee camp. The Israeli soldiers kill at least 276 Palestinian people and retrieve four Israeli hostages.
Netanyahu repeatedly makes clear that Israel will not accept a proposal that involved a permanent ceasefire. Hamas asks for changes to the deal that would ensure that Israel observed a permanent ceasefire.
On June 21, Israel drops a series of bombs on Al-Mawasi refugee camp in southern Gaza, the second attack in as many months at the shelter in the humanitarian zone. The bombs drop around midnight as many lay asleep inside tents and makeshift shelters. At least 25 people, all civilians, are killed in the attack.
You’ve side stepped my key points, so I’ll ask them directly.
Do you prefer Trump or the Dems?
Do you see any realistic alternative to the Dems and Trump?
By all means, send Biden to the ICC later, but the current situation cannot continue. No aid is getting in. This is about as bad as it gets. There are millions of Gazans at risk right now. Are you happy with this situation right now?
The aid pier never delivered aid. Instead it delivered a clandestine military operation hidden inside aid trucks. Which of course is a war crime.
The “aid pier” was a smokescreen and only served for facilitating a war crime.
Source?
Prime list of people to oust in the primaries
Are they considered Isreali products🤔
Yes. You will be required by law to purchase Josh Gottheimer.
I always thought the Israeli would destroy the US is some fashion
America can’t be taken seriously anymore.
It’s a good thing Russia gave half of a wakeup call to the rest of the free world to arm the fuck up 3 years ago. We know America can’t be relied on for anything anymore.
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Just ask all of the places that have already done this.
https://www.newsweek.com/pro-palestinian-protest-states-colleges-illegal-bds-1895292
This is a cudgel to use against leftist activists when they are identified through social media skimming and illegal surveillance. The charge of antisemitic activity will be constructed parallel to their desire to brutalize them.
And they all get a stack of AIPAC cash to implement this too.
Here is the bill (it’s like two pages)
I’m not a lawyer so I could be reading this wrong but this law doesn’t apply directly to citizens, per se.
The law that it modifies basically makes it illegal for a company to contractually require you to boycott another company that you disagree with, but one that is allied toward the US.
For example, imagine you’re the CEO of ACME and you want to do business with Aperture Science, Inc. Aperture can’t, as a condition of you doing business with them, restrict you from working with Israeli companies.
That all being said, I do not trust this administration will use the law for it’s intended purpose and will instead use it as a club to beat people with.
Thank you. I’ve been so confused seeing this bill sent around with people saying it’s intended to punish any given individual for choosing to not buy from Israel. I could absolutely be wrong (I’m also not an attorney), but it definitely reads like you have to either be pressured or compensated by a foreign nation (or an IGO if this bill passes) to be impacted by this.
That said, your last point is completely fair…so maybe people are right to worry as though this will get used against them even if they’re not boycotting in league with a foreign power. With the folks in this admin, maybe it will 🤷🏻♂️
I’ve been screaming this since the days of digg: no one reads bills. I do for this very reason. Once you get used to reading “Washington speak”, you can get a general sense of what a bill is going to do and what it won’t do.
Given the hype, it wouldn’t surprise me if this was a false flag where the alt right is trying to tire us out by having yet another thing to worry about.
We can only do so much. I’m not saying stopping Israel isn’t important. I am saying we need to pick and choose our battles. Of the things the Republicans are doing, it’s nothing.
I guess raising awareness of products origin and why one should boycott becomes the issue.
Hopefully someone makes a list of brands and companies that you aren’t allowed to boycot according to usa republicans and then publishes that list online on a user friendly website. After all, without that information, people might be unknowingly breaking the law when they start a personal boycot.
Genius. Unfortunately, they will most likely target anti-genocide activist, check their phone for any BDS material and charge them with this.
It is not for the masses it is for the vocal once.
this, i just deleted my BDS apps, will have to rely on manually checking things with a vpn.
Any government that tells you what you can complain about
Is by definition a Totalerian government
Worse than that - they’re trying to tell us what we can spend our money on.
Which according to the horse shit Citizens United ruling is free speech for corporations. But not the people in em I guess.
Lets wait and see what percentage of democrats will vote yes
You remember that first amendment thing we used to have here?
Yeah… neither does our government
Didn’t CU rule that spending money is free speech? So isn’t compelling the spending of money compelling speech? Sounds straight up unconstitutional.(as if that fucking matters these days)
Wait, doesn’t your argument support their bill?
They’re agreeing with you; they are suggesting that convincing people of what to do with their money is infringing on their “speech.”
My argument is that republicans are never consistent with their policies.
Spending isn’t free speech. The government cannot compell speech. This doesn’t not mean that the government can compell spending (I mean, it sorta can with taxes and fines, but it can’t compell spending to select businesses, markets or groups.)
I agree with you but you’re operating outside of case law and the entire sentiment is moot when arguing this particular case.
Is it saying it’s illegal to “convince”(therefore not the consumer) or it’s illegal to “participate” (meaning the consumer)
No, Citizens United ruled that corporations are allowed to engage in elections just like citizens. It said nothing about money, protesting, or anything else.
Still not a good ruling for any reason, but not really relevant here.
Republicans have been undermining the constitution for decades. Now they straight up wipe their ass with it. The Goal has always been a christofacist dictatorship
Rich people spending money is free speech.
Anti-genocide activists not spending money is terrorism.
AKA the usual.
This is brilliant, you could have the gestasi inspecting everyone at the checkouts at a supermarket, and if you don’t buy a Sodastream cartridge, you get disappeared.
(Sodastream is an Israeli company, and used to manufacture their machines in an industrial park in an Israeli settlement on the West Bank)
Sodastream is an Israeli company
I didn’t know that. Good thing I’ve been boycotting their cylinders for years.
Well fuck, I just got one, I just assumed they were a german company since they’re so popular there
aarke
Same. But I switched to a (German) service that mails cylinders. https://sodabaer.de/
I got an Aarke instead because I liked the design, so now I just need to replace my current sodastream cartridge with an offbrand one…
Get a nice bar-sized cylinder of CO2 (sometimes called beer gas) and a 15 dollar adapter. Get you that (nearly) guilt-free bubbly water by never sending them a cent for gas!
Not really any more, mostly though because other companies got into the business and aren’t charging an arm and a leg for carbon dioxide. Other manufacturers also aren’t pointlessly incompatible to each other.
Sparkling water, of course, is still ridiculously popular over here, and carbonating at home is convenient. Then, though: Tap water + soda stream co2 is more expensive than store-brand bottled water.
Wait you first blame us for not having free speach, because lying about the holocaust is illegal and now you ban boycotting Israel for engaging in a de facto genocide?
How do I boycott Israel in the first place? Not booking my next vacation there? Do I get 20 years in prison for that?
The best I have managed to do is not buying some hand tools from a company based there. I’m sure they are really missing that $100, lol.
They make a surprising amount of things. I noticed a woodworking tool I have was made in Israel. Never expected that.
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A Bosch router bit
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It’s been a while since I dealt with my favourite maker of totally legit Diesel ECUs that absolutely have no cheat function built in, what are they up to now?
Well, I can think of at least one famous Jewish carpenter.
Nailed it!
You can cross that one off your list
For now; it’ll be back in a few days.
https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide
Whatever the legal status of officially boycotting Isreal, there’s still no law against just incidentally not doing business with the companies.
Before someone says they can’t avoid some of these: OK, then boycott the other ones.
Whatever sand you have to throw, throw it in the gears of genocide. Don’t just do nothing.
The Constitution says there’s also no law against actively and loudly not doing business with the companies
It seems like theatre. How will you ever prove that I chose Burger King over McDonalds for political reasons?
Serious answer, that’s not ever what would get prosecuted. What would get you prosecuted in your scenario is e.g. sending a memo to the network of malls you operate saying “do not renew or accept new leases from McDonalds”, or to the accounts department of your company saying “do not accept any staff expense claim receipts from McDonalds”.
(I’m not supporting the bill by the way, just answering your question at face value)
I don’t eat meat. BK has Impossible burgers and McD’s doesn’t. Of course they’ve been coming after synthetic meat too in some places. They’re throwing a fit because a single-digit % of the population had the audacity to opt out of eating meat derived from animals.
I am not vegan or vegetarian, but I still prefer Impossible burgers (and Impossible chicken patties) and Beyond Steak bites. Not only does it at least significantly reduce my meat consumption, it is generally better than the real meat, since it doesn’t have any weird bits and is lower in bad cholesterol. Also, it makes it so the meat I do eat can be sourced more ethically (buying direct from the rancher, hunting and fishing my own for subsistence, getting free range eggs especially from locals) instead of getting the final product and just ignoring what torture went into it.
