Ocasio-Cortez took to Instagram after the Department of Homeland Security suggested they may pursue arrests of three Democratic lawmakers who partook in a protest outside of an ICE facility in Newark, New Jersey. Reps. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-NJ), Rob Menendez (D-NJ) and LaMonica McIver (D-NJ) all attended the protest.

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    Americans in a literal fascist state be like: This is literally fascism

    they’re trapped in a Cassandra‑like tautology: forewarning what has already come to pass

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    there already is a ton of problems. she’s toothless and a moron. her party is nothing more than republican-light these days anyway.

    we need actual changes.

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      I’ll admit she phrased this poorly but she’s one of the best representatives we’ve got on our side. What’s your plan?

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        My plan is to vote for folks who are not democrat or republican; as they both support exploitation, financial instability, genocide, and general capitalist concerns.

        All things that are destructive to working class people. Some more than others, of course.

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            yes, she’s also tacitly approved them, waited until she could test the waters, and all of that before “coming out.”

            which says to me she had no real opinion other than “that which fits within the overton window of today.”

            the same with RFKJR, “switching” parties. the same with Biden, claiming to be pro union… yet making it illegal for those rail workers to strike…

            democrats are evil obfuscated. republicans are evil without obfuscation.

            the problem is not the party. it is the system.

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    You can’t defeat an enemy that you refuse to fight.

    I’m sure the Democrats will take every legal avenue available to them. However, if they run out of legal, nonviolent options, they’re going to be in a very rough spot because they don’t have any other arrows in their quiver.

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        What else do you expect from them?

        Very little.

        I don’t expect AOC and her octogenarian colleagues to strap on an assault rifle and go full commando, but they do need to recognize what the Republicans are already well aware of: not all conflicts can be resolved peacefully.

        The Republicans are more than willing to use all tools at their disposal to achieve their goals. If the Democrats are not, then they are putting themselves at a severe disadvantage.

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            I understand why the Democrats want to try to resolve conflicts peacefully. No reasonable person wants violence. However, what the Democrats perceive as compromise is actually often appeasement. The Republicans use the threat of violence to extort the Democrats, and the Democrats often concede because they don’t feel like they have any other choice. But appeasement does not prevent violence, it only delays it. The only real solution is the destruction of the extortionists.

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    Ma’am, with the greatest and utmost possible respect, the rest of the world submits that you people already have several problems.

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    That’s a good threat, but what happens when nobody backs it up? You just know that establishment Dems will sit it out and people are not going to do anything. So what then?

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    You can discuss all you want, they can be members of Congress or what ever but unfortunately we don’t have a Congress and we are already in a dictatorship, even if you brand it as fascism. I saw the video posted by Hasan Piker. If you listen carefully the question he was asked to answer by customs agents it shows we’re in a dictatorship.

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    If the trump admin goes after congress members, they’re going after the Squad first so most democrats will be on board.

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      Democrats are the Leopards Eating Faces Party, Republicans are Let Leopards Run Free Without Regulation Party.

      Every time they give Republicans an inch, they’ll take a mile. And then publicly cry “Giving them a mile was a mistake, we wanna walk back a foot!”

      If AOC is targeted, wanna bet enough Democrats vote yes to remove/arrest her in appeasement of Trump, thinking they’ll be saved?

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        And they never undue what was done just keep the status quo. So the US marches ever towards the right.

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          Never have, never will. I’ve become disillusioned with the platitudes that the DNC sells the public. If they want to win, give them something that makes them not consider fascist lies of how they’ll make everything better.

          But instead its means tested, racist, classist solutions that only major revisions to laws and the way a government operates could fix. And no politician wants that.

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      How many red lines have been crossed now? I like AOC but the Democrats and Congress aren’t going to do shit if they haven’t already.

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        The problem is the old fart democrats and a few DINOs combine to make it so there just isnt enough of a voting block to actually make anything happen. It sucks right now but the whole point of congress is to require a majority consensus in order to pass legislation. Frankly the fact is it was structurally designed to be slow because the founders of the constitution were tired of King George and now we’re bearing witness to what happens when we need it to respond.

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          Nah, fuck this sentiment. Force a vote and be loud about every law that they break. If there’s a contingency of congress that are going to be obtuse about resisting fascism, then they can face the disgruntled mass of voters in the next election. If Dickhead Durbin hadn’t already decided he’s not going to run for reelection I’d be voting him and Tammy Duckworth out for compromising on Republican policies. Instead I’ll only get the pleasure of voting against Tammy in the primaries.

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          and shes like only 1 person, other than crockett, and maybe tim is doing anything different. all the other dnc do not want to lose thier seats, and or the grift train the gop has been living off of.

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        I used to like her, but she’s seemingly going career politician and is voting with lobbyists instead of advocacy groups and all her public statements are just talk. She’s becoming what she got into politics to prevent…

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            She started losing me a few years ago, when claiming to be a socialist & pro-union, she voted to make it illegal for railroad workers to strike. Pro-union until their collective action might make life a little inconvenient, then knock their teeth out for the capitalists.
            I haven’t really kept track of her since then.

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              I heard her talk about immigrant labor and the joy if it being cheap for cheap products and realized she wasn’t on our side but money’s.

              She’s just young, female and talks occasionally to the populace like she gets it and agrees that things are bad so she’s given a lot more leeway than the other members of the party. Its all fundraising though.

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            The “Take it Down” act. She voted with the party line despite warnings.

            giving the powerful a dangerous new route to manipulate platforms into removing lawful speech that they simply don’t like. President Trump himself has said that he would use the law to censor his critics. The bill passed the Senate in February, and it now heads to the president’s desk.

            https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/04/congress-passes-take-it-down-act-despite-major-flaws

            https://www.techdirt.com/2025/04/28/congress-moving-forward-on-unconstitutional-take-it-down-act/

            https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2025/roll104.xml

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              This is one of the few valid criticisms I can think of. Like, I can get why she’d consider the legislation, considering the myriad of deepfakes made about her (which has got to feel…particularly violating on top of the non-sexual harassment and attention people have put on her since she, basically, first got elected) but there are really valid concerns about the legislation, particularly in the context of this administration.

              And I don’t remember her, at least, even addressing those concerns and potential abuses of the law.

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            You say that like it’s a trap card.

            Nobody in office right now is. The system will not tolerate it, and is built to keep them at the fringes.

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                No, what makes progressives appear impotent is they are fighting an asymmetric war against a much more well funded opponent.

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                  Yet MAGA was able to take over the GOP.

                  It’s sad when MAGA is better funded and organized then the progressives and they bitch less to boot.

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      They do. They can’t do anything through Congress, but they’re helping the ACLU get the cases through the courts. If they go after a member of Congress, that member can personally press charges on the administration. That is her point.

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              Nah, they’re going to call everyone else not doing that an enemy while continuing to do nothing at all, of not actually helping MAGA like they did during the election!

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            I believe in the power of organized strikes combined with mass protests. That’s what works and what forces Courts rule in our favor. That’s hardly being a doomer.

            You just don’t want to have to do anything.

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              Weird things to say to someone that you don’t know anything about. You aren’t spying on me because you wouldn’t say that, so I’m going to chalk it up to unfounded accusation, maybe to try and feel better?

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                You clearly want to wait around for the Courts to solve everything so you don’t have to do anything. I don’t know you, but I know your type. The only political actions you have ever taken are voting, signing petitions, and maybe donating. All stuff that requires no effort and carries no risk.

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                  I’m amazed how much you depend on ESP for your clarity and your willingness to loudly tell everyone how you make conclusions based on unfounded basis… If you only knew how wrong you were, you would be embarrassed

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            The ones that don’t matter to the regime are upheld so Democrats keep thinking the Courts will save them and they keep wasting time in legal battles instead of organizing in other ways. The ones that Trump actually cares about are overturned.

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    I’m watching all this from the sidelines… Damn, you’re just perfect for being used. Crowd brain. You don’t even think about it… Your Republicans are bad because they said so and you are supposedly Democrats…
    As a person who has suffered from the actions of your state and your politicians - you really don’t know and don’t want to understand the truth! Your Democrats are not white and fluffy at all… My God, you are fed slogans and you believe them. But you only blame the Republicans or Trump 🤦🏼‍♀️ And you don’t see anything at all in your “favorites”. Politicians always and everywhere use people! But at least Trump is not guilty of millions of deaths and money laundering, as well as corruption and pumping money out of other independent states! Yes, he is a businessman, yes, he is a devil, but he does it a little more humanely… And he did not just decide to destroy a nation to harm another. After all, he is a businessman, and not like your typical politician who built a career on the Cold War! And they can’t live any other way. And if they also launder a ton of money, then everything is perfect. The main thing is let others die, but not the “great” democrats… pandering to dictators who spit on all norms and human rights! You are like those from the EU - greens - pour soup over historical value, works of art - that’s a piece of cake. And the fact that wars harm the planet much more - who cares! And when unique endemics are destroyed, flora and habitats of fauna listed as endangered species in various conventions! Oh yeah, cutting down the Amazon forests for the sake of holding a climate change forum - that’s hypocrisy and double standards!!! Think about it and start studying more, not just slogans and articles from your paid media. Or have you already forgotten about WikiLeaks??? So study the “great Biden” and search for Alexander Dubininsky on Twitter. Why is he being held in jail, illegally and without reason. For the truth and investigation! And oh, your Democrats are no better than Republicans. By the way, Gramm is also a bought character… There was enough evidence, but as always, great Democrats - in particular their friends in the EU are blocking YouTube channels so that Ukrainian citizens do not know the truth, since the usurper decided that he can impose sanctions against his citizens without trial or investigation 🤦🏼‍♀️🤬 Well, alas, they are now making a lot of profit. But smart people know the reasons very well, and who is who in the end. But no, you will now accuse me, like the usurper, of being “pro-Russian”… 😂 May all those who accuse me and those same Russians live my life and the lives of many others who died and lost everything in this war! A war of influence, money, control and ambition! It’s disgusting!

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    Hold up - they participated in the protest? Or they showed up and required a tour of the facility, which is their right as federal lawmakers?

    What I saw indicated only the latter? Did they actually participate in the protest?

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      I have no idea but whether they did or not is irrelevant.

      Protesting is constitutionally protected speech even for lawmakers, and has no bearing on their rights as elected officials to tour those facilities.

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    Hooray for more posturing! Really nice that this current administration has shown without a doubt that our entire system is full of spineless garbage that really will do nothing to balance power, which is literally why those branches of government exist. Yes AOC is a firecracker and more verbal than most. Yes, she drives change and is a speaker for a the people. But without any backup from the entirety of our gov, she’s just a megaphone yelling into a void.

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      That’d be the humanity.

      Any system without wide popular involvement turns into shit.

      Wide popular involvement requires simplicity and small number of levels, and ability to ruin and rebuild any part of the state apparatus quickly. So it’s limiting, but those limits are liberating, one can say.

      At the same time there are no good systems for that wide popular involvement, one would have to pick between Switzerland and the idealized Soviet system, neither is perfectly functional.

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      she’s just a megaphone yelling into a void.

      That makes you the void…

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    After watching that video, there already is a problem. Assaulting an elected official is a felony and the ICE officer that did this needs to be up on charges.