The White House was forced to walk back on president Joe Biden’s claim to have seen “confirmed pictures” of “terrorists beheading children” in Israel.

The Israel Defence Force previously claimed that at least 40 babies were killed in the Kfar Aza kibbutz over the weekend when the Hamas militant group launched an attack on Israel.

The army later clarified to Anadolu news agency that there was “no information confirming” allegations that “Hamas beheaded babies”.

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    People want to believe it was real, it fits the narrative and justifies their extreme emotions.

    I saw some of the first claims, didn’t see any confirmation, so I brushed it aside as possibly untrue. However I then saw some videos with reporters going through a kibbutz, they confirmed babies had been killed but not that they were beheaded, but alongside that post was a French journalist that said some other journalists had seen it first hand. That somehow stuck and convinced me, only later did I realise it wasn’t enough - I can only imagine that would be worse for people who saw the President say it.

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      I saw the same report from what you described, and noticed the second time I watched it that no bodies were shown and the journalists specifically said “we heard them say that there were children among the casualties”.

      In the meantime we have pictures of real dead and confirmed children in Gaza. It’s chilling for me to see how the “potential” unproven news of a Israeli children being beheaded is apparently worth (two) million times more than all the Palestinian children shot point blank in the head by Israeli soldiers which has become far too common an occurrence.

      Here’s some confirmed and documented numbers of what Israel does to Palestinian children:

      In the past 23 years, 2293 Palestinian children were killed by Israeli forces.

      And yet despite everything done by these NGOs and human rights groups, Israel did not budge and did not try to improve the conditions for these children in an open air prison

      In the end I do sincerely hope that no child was injured during those attacks (but like I pointed out earlier, this is unlikely… any attack on any civilian area will leave children at huge risk given how vulnerable they are).

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        I feel like people wanting to believe the beheaded story has little to do with Israel’s attacks on children. Rather, it just fits the narrative of a barbaric raider killing indiscriminately.

        However the effectiveness of the lie (assuming it is one) also has nothing to do with the reasons for making it, which is clearly in service to Israel’s image.

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        This is not a tit for tat situation, please don’t try to make it one.

        First of all, I don’t think you’ll find a photo of the bodies, at least I hope not. You didn’t see the holocaust documentary until it was seen in Nuremberg, but then the general public didn’t see them until much later.

        I see three things here. First, this article is not on reliable feed. Anyone can supply content tp Yahoo. It’s the garbage can of news. Second, it is very thinly sourcesd and I havent seen anything similar.

        Last, Israel brought journalists into the Kibbutz. Those journalists reported. I didn’t note any Anadolucty news agency per the article. Don’t know who they are. This article does not disprove the original story. In fact it goes out of its way not to

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          This is not a tit for tat situation, please don’t try to make it one.

          How am I making it one? I’m talking about how the international community approaches dead children and the documented truth is that Palestinian children are being tortured, raped, killed, you name it with very little reaction and no sanctions on Israel.

          First of all, I don’t think you’ll find a photo of the bodies, at least I hope not

          No, but I expect at least journalists would be allowed to.

          I see three things here. First, this article is not on a reliable feed. Anyone can supply content tp Yahoo.

          Actually, if you look at the top of the link, this is a news article mirrored from The Independent. You can go and read it there.

          It’s the garbage can of news.

          Again, it’s a mirrored post from an actual news agency.

          Second, it is very thinly sourcesd and I havent seen anything similar.

          Actually it’s all over the news that the White House backed from these statements.

          Those journalists reported.

          No, they said they heard about this but none of them were able to confirm it themselves.

          EDIT: I wanted to add this picture

          Yes, it’s all over the news now.

          I didn’t note any Anadolucty news agency per the article.

          Here you go: https://www.aa.com.tr/

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            How am I making it one? I’m talking about how the international community approaches dead children and the documented truth is that Palestinian children are being tortured, raped, killed, you name it with very little reaction and no sanctions on Israel

            You answered your own question

            No, but I expect at least journalists would be allowed to.

            I would think not. How would you like seeing a loved one slaughtered? Photos should only be taken for forensic purposes in this case.

            Actually, if you look at the top of the link, this is a news article mirrored from The Independent.

            The news is a denial that the President saw pictures, not that event didn’t happen.

            No, they said they heard about this but none of them were able to confirm it themselves.

            No. I first saw a journalist walking through the kibbutz. Lots of blood. Shocked troops cleaning up. The next day Israel invited journalists there, and my eyes saw blood drenched children’s beds.

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              You answered your own question

              This is a none answer.

              Photos should only be taken for forensic purposes in this case.

              As per the article, nothing like that exists, confirmed by the army themselves.

              The news is a denial that the President saw pictures, not that event didn’t happen.

              That’s one part of the news. The article clearly cites that the army denied it and that no US official has seen or been able to confirm this information.

              No. I first saw a journalist walking through the kibbutz. Lots of blood. Shocked troops cleaning up. The next day Israel invited journalists there, and my eyes saw blood drenched children’s beds.

              So no one saw any bodies or forensic reports or photos, just bloody beds. Gotcha.

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                Imagine someone breaks into… Well I hope you don’t have children, so let’s say a neighbor’s house.

                They break into your neighbors house and murder their children in their bed. How much you gonna nickel and dime that?

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                  Well, if I ask police and they themselves confirm there is no evidence of that? This is the situation here, not whatever you have described.

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                    There is actual evidence of entire families murdered in their homes. You can find the pictures with very little effort.

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                This is a none answer.

                Read what you wrote

                As per the article, nothing like that exists, confirmed by the army themselves. ’ As per the article. If I was “The Army” and you asked me for photos of dead kids, I’d tell you to take a hike too.

                The article clearly cites that the army denied it and that no US official has seen or been able to confirm this information.

                So you can’t file a FOIA request and see dead kids. So sad for you.

                So no one saw any bodies or forensic reports or photos, just bloody beds. Gotcha.

                It’s not enough. We need the bodies themselves So we can perform independent autopsies!

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        Israel has bent over backwards for the people in Gaza, including offering multiple peace deals and land that was literally never “Palestinian” as their own country.

        When terrorists hide in civilian areas, the civilian deaths are the fault of the terrorists, full stop.

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          When terrorists hide in civilian areas, the civilian deaths are the fault of the terrorists, full stop.

          “Look at what you made me do!” - abusers, the world over.

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            This is a moron’s interpretation of what is said above.

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                Man if I respected you or cared about your opinions, I might react to this.