• crimsoncobalt@lemmy.world
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    According to IMDb, it’s in preproduction. I’m not sure how accurate it is, but it lists the director and writers.

    The Red Head https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29931730/

    The story of three young girls in World War II, Hannie Schaft, Truus and Freddie Oversteegen, who are inducted into the Dutch resistance to assassinate Nazis and Nazi collaborators.

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    I want Quintin Tarantino to work with the people who made the 2011 Hanna movie.

    Instead of Christoph Waltz finding and killing Jews, it’s a demon child finding and killing Nazis.

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    Because superhero movies tend to have a solid ROI, which is why they get made: to make already rich dudes even richer. How do you plan to flesh out your seductresses Nazi assassin movie idea other than “she seduces Nazis and assassinates them” and still be a box office hit?

    Find or be a good writer, get a decent script, and if you can convince enough movie executives that they’ll make bank off of it, your idea might stand a chance.

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    Because she’s a revolutionary, and Batman is a billionaire defending the status quo. You can’t have people being inspired into revolution.

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    Hard to draw out repeatedly flirting with nazis and killing them

    The movie would suck as they try to tie in a love interest and plot

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      Hard to draw out repeatedly flirting with nazis and killing them

      Would you need to? Watching someone repeatedly kill stupid horny nazis doesn’t seem like it would get old.

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        … you do realize Nazis were humans, right?

        This is literally one of the most important lessons from Nazism. That anyone, any normal human, loving father, mother, son, can become a monster if the circumstances are right.

        God, no wonder fascism is on the rise again if the lessons of it were forgotten.

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          Im pretty sure between middle school and undergrad I had to learn about the Stanford prison experiment no less than 15 times. Im surprised more people dont consider that aspect of psychology

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          Maybe the the wrong word. Maybe they should have said they would make one sympathetic?

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            Good. They should make them seem as human and sympathetic as possible, show the entire slide of emotional manipulation that made otherwise normal people adopt a narrative and made them believe themselves doing right and good as they did atrocities or stood by while their leaders and peers did atrocities.

            And then kill 'em anyway. Because there are consequences for being dumb, and we don’t show that enough.

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              That would work for people like you or me. Unfortunately, there seems to be a mass of people who have no idea how to make the distinction that surface level niceness means nothing, and mean people can be mean for good reasons.

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            I’m not sure. That could actually be a nice Idea.

            Make the audience sympathise with the Nazi, maybe even identify with him. Then show his gruesome actions. All while having him remain being a wonderful father/brother/whatever.

            This stark contrast, this shock might help them realize that everyone, even them, are prone to falling for fascism and cause them to think about their relationship with this most gruesome of ideologies. It might show them that Nazism doesn’t come from the outside and occupies the country but that instead it comes from the inside, form ourselves, our neighbours and our family members, whom we never would think it possible of.

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              Or, because the US has shit media literacy, they come away thinking “see? Nazis weren’t monsters after all” and go to their next rally.

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                The only reason the “nazis weren’t monsters” narrative is still alive and well is because we broadly didn’t show them as humans who made stupid, horrible mistakes from the very beginning. We didn’t drive home the point that your ignorance is still deserving of the harshest of consequences. We are too afraid of offending someone or making someone feel bad for being dumb that we have allowed ignorance to have as much value as virtue.

                The only reason we have people being led astray by people like Trump and Kanye and his ilk right now is because we are all so scared to show moral complexity and human vulnerabilities that we painted nazis like cartoon bad-guys. Which some were, sure, just like there are cartoon bad guys right now pushing millions of otherwise normal, if not ignorant, people to support horrible ideas.

                Why are we so afraid to show that letting yourself be led into horrible ideas can still earn you a hangman’s noose or whatever the modern equivalent is?

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                  I get your argument, but take the recent Dune movies. Paul Atreides is meant to be a subtle villain. Most viewers simply never realised that at all.

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        They should. And then kill 'em anyway.

        That is the lesson we all needed to learn and ignored. They were humans, they thought they were good and doing right.

        We are all equally vulnerable of falling into human biases and ignorance and doing horrific things if we allow people in power to manipulate our emotions. We need more stories about relatable, understandable humans doing absolutely fucked up shit because they went along with the narratives and then facing consequences for it.

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      There’s plenty to go on. It’s not like they had no life except flirting with and executing nazis.

      Excerpt from the wp page:

      During World War II, the Oversteegen family hid a Jewish couple in their home.[3] Freddie Oversteegen and her older sister Truus began handing out anti-Nazi pamphlets, which attracted the notice of HaarlemCouncil of Resistance commander Frans van der Wiel. With their mother’s permission, the girls joined the Council of Resistance, which brought them into a coordinated effort.[2]Freddie was fourteen years old at the time.[3][4]

      Oversteegen, her sister, and friend Hannie Schaft worked to sabotage the Nazi military presence in the Netherlands.[5] They used dynamite to disable bridges and railroad tracks.[6] They also smuggled Jewish children out of the country or helped them escape concentration camps.[2]

      The Oversteegens and Schaft also killed German soldiers, with Freddie being the first of the girls to kill a soldier by shooting him while riding her bicycle.[1][5] They also lured soldiers to the woods under the pretense of a romantic overture and then killed them.[1][5]Oversteegen would approach the soldiers in taverns and bars and ask them to “go for a stroll” in the forest.[2][5]

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    …because she was a child soldier. She was doing this aged 14.

    We tend not to glorify tales of the WW2 where war crimes were committed.

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      Child soldiers are fine in ww2. They weren not brown people fighting for their lives. They were white people.

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        You know that people speaking out against child soldiers aren’t condemning the children, right? They’re condemning the people who take advantage of them.

        That’s sort of why most criticism is directed towards warlords and drug cartels.

        Really wasn’t a situation that needed race injected into it, particularly when no one was saying that white child soldiers are somehow okay.

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      We do tend to do tales of tragedy though. She was the victim on two different counts, as well as being the hero (recruited as a child soldier, and defending against hostile invasion. Heroic for shooting Nazis).

      Depicting someone defending against the bad guys while being taken advantage of by the good guys and meanwhile shooting pedophile Nazis feels like a shoe in.

      Also, it wasn’t technically a war crime at the time. The conventions around not using child soldiers are shockingly recent. Was still a bad thing to do, but only by modern standards.
      We also tend to glorify war crime stories depressingly often, so I’m not sure that point even stands.

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      So Kick-Ass it, make it about her going and out killing these SS pedos who are following a 14 year old into the woods.

      And we totally do, look at Inglourious Basterds.

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    Damn, we need a few thousand clones of her, asap. Nazis everywhere lately. Although they started to come back right around the time she died. Makes you wonder.

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    I know one Dutch girl. Can confirm, an absolute man-killer, deadly gorgeous and fierce as fuck.

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    This is the type of hero we need in modern times. Sadly, she would be the wrong gender for most of the MAGA politicians.