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Richat@lemmy.ml to linuxmemes@lemmy.world · 1 month ago

How Times Change...

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Richat@lemmy.ml to linuxmemes@lemmy.world · 1 month ago
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  • Matriks404@lemmy.world
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    There are a lot of hobby Unix-like OS’s however. I don’t see the point in most of them, but still.

    You also forgot macOS. It’s a shitty “UNIX-certified” OS though.

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      Its a BSD derivat tho.

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      In a sense, NextStep is the only one of the old Unix vendors to still have a significant install base.

  • Richie Rich@lemmy.world
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    AIX is not dead yet.

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    SCO crashed and burned in part because they tried to sue multiple Linux providers claiming that they owned all the rights to certain pieces of code that they’d contractually leased from IBM, and that IBM giving code to Linux distributors violated the terms of their agreement with IBM. It was a lawsuit that dragged on for over a decade and a half–I think that it’s still going–and it’s bled SCO of tens of millions of dollars ,esp. since they’ve lost nearly every single claim they’ve made.

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      They tried to use the DMCA for header files in the source. https://linux.slashdot.org/story/03/12/22/1815224/sco-invokes-dmca-names-headers-novell-steps-in

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      Msft funded them for a while to do this:

      https://www.networkcomputing.com/data-center-networking/microsoft-s-ties-to-sco-confirmed-by-investment-group

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      SCO always reminds me of this:

      https://read.gov/aesop/026.html

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      SCO Unix was mostly dead before then (not fully dead, just smelled like it). They were never the most popular Unix vendor to begin with. Caldera–a commercial Linux distro–had bought them out, and that’s when the legal trouble started.

      All those old vendors tended to have one specific thing they were really good at. IIRC, the thing for SCO was that they could load up hundreds of users on a single box on 1990s hardware. No small feat when the traditional Unix model needs to fork() a process for login/shell/whatever.

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        It’s been a long time since I worked on that case, and I only did a very small part working on the discovery documents, so I’ve forgotten a lot, and had a lot of details a little confused. :)

        It sounds like it was probably one of the seminal patent troll cases.

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          Copyright, yes. And a lot of this is corporate history rather than the legal portion.

  • Lucien [he/him]@mander.xyz
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    Aww, I miss Solaris.

  • Greg Clarke@lemmy.ca
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    I liked OpenSolaris, you could order a free CD from their website and they’d post it, even internationally.

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      I still have one of those! 😆

      Didn’t use it too much, tho. Never installed it on bare metal, only in a VM, and back in those days I was in my distro-hopping phase (I was discovering Arch), so I tested it and quickly forgot about it.

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        We ran OpenSolaris as our NFS server for several years on ASUS Xeon servers. zfs was a big part of that. Ilumos is still alive and keeping the OpenSolaris world going in a small way.

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        Thanks for digging it up and sharing the photo! It’s nostalgic seeing this

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      they sent us a big box of CDs to the CS department an uni. ran it as a daily driver for a semester.

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      I barely got an opportunity to try out Solaris/opensolaris (honestly I don’t remember which) before Oracle got involved. It gave me the impression of being a no nonsense, get shit done workstation OS. It was clean, it had enough frill that anyone could sit down in front of it and start working, but it wasn’t showy. I wasn’t a business person doing business things, and I was really just looking around for a good office suite on a stable OS that I could make it through college with. I really liked the “this is where work gets done” feel of it.

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      deleted by creator

  • MehBlah@lemmy.world
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    SCO died by self inflicted gunshot wounds.

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      Unfortunately, I have a very large client whose core business app runs on SCO still. They’re coming up on year 10 on their migration attempt.

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        Let me guess. A aged purpose built program used for something like inventory and accounting. Built with something like cobol or pascel. With a set of specific feature set that they are unable to or unwilling to pay for a updated rewrite?

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    Eventually will be just BSD

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      Bless your heart.

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      Amen, freebsd crew represent!

      And to anybody throwing shade:

      BSD is literally the #1 mobile os, and has been for years, even if the kernel has extra chromosomes.

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        even if the kernel has extra chromosomes.

        Okay, that is a hilarious way of saying those forks are back of the short bus “ssssspecial”.

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          I actually love the theory of the Mach nanokernel, I just also think Apple went their own way with it, defeating the purpose entirely.

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    The only one of these I never used was AIX. My first unix was Unixware.

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    Irix is missing. It was quite cool at the time. (Well, its desktop was).

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    Out of all those I only ever used Solaris and the most polite thing I can say is: I have no nostalgia for that time.

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    Weirdly, it stops there for a looooooooooong time

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    Where BeOS?

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      …beOS wasn’t really a POSIX system, but NeXTstep might fit alongside the others…

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        NeXTSTEP (and therefore, modern macOS) is a BSD.

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    Actually Solaris is still squirming while the first shovels of dirt are being heaped on.

  • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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    2025: Linux

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      2026: GNU/Hurd

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        2030: Plan9

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    No love for temple os 😢

    • moving to lemme.zip. @lemm.ee
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      OP rewrite this meme…right now! TempleOS or ban.

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      Temple OS wasn’t Unix-like.

      Also it gets way too much attention as is IMO. Its the only hobby OS project people know about, purely because 4chan turned its mentally ill creator into a meme.

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        What other hobby operating systems have a cool hook like TempleOS’s religious thing?

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        I didn’t realize the pattern

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