• John Richard@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    People are just now waking up to realize a pro genocide & pro wealth disparity publication isn’t moral?

  • TheFriar@lemm.ee
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    Wait a second:

    it’s hard for apple to manufacture devices in a country with robust labor rights.

    Robust labor rights? The US?

    We have child labor making a comeback here. It’s not that far fetched to imagine children working in hypothetical US factories if things keep going the way they’re going.

  • ORbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    “Grown ass men with sausage fingers are also out there painting tiny dolls using nail art brushes so they can play house… with their friends,” Jeong joked. “American men have plenty of manual dexterity.”

    OH, man. I feel attacked. I’m going to cry onto my D&D minis now.

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    Terrible journalism. The author entirely neglects the fact that lemurs possess fingers even smaller than those of Chinese women. Why not have lemurs manufacture iPhones, given the particular daintiness of their digits? A true investigative journalist wouldn’t leave such crucial avenues of inquiry unexplored.

  • Blade9732@lemmy.world
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    So, NYT, do the Swiss all have micro hands? How do you explain Swiss watchmaking? For that matter, how about American watchmaking? America used to make all kinds of tiny wristwatches, including movements. There is also a few current American watchmakers, with a few building intricate movements.

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    “Young Chinese women have small fingers,” the article reads, “and that has made them a valuable contributor to iPhone production because they are more nimble at installing screws and other miniature parts in the small device, supply chain experts said.”

    Fucking what? Who are these supply chain experts? Did you pull them out of your ass?

    This reads like AI. I’ve lost any speck of respect I still had for NYT.

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      You still had respect for it? It’s owned by and has been pushing Bezo’s agenda for ages now

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        Their response is literally “he said it on a podcast,” and his comment on the podcast was the fingers statement plus “Apple engineers talk about this.”

        Go suck a railroad spike bud, you might as well have said that foot binding is the reason for good workplace retention, because Apple workers said so.

  • Donebrach@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    yall seriously need some media literacy classes. or basic reading comprehension classes.

    NYT paraphrased some industry people who posited that Chinese manufacturing benefits from small lady hands. that’s literally just covering a story. they didn’t say “us can’t make stuff because we don’t have little china-fingers and only tiny-china-fingers can make the pocket computers.” they just reported that some unnamed assholes said that.

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      Follow your own advice then, you’ll learn that it’s the role of the journalist to qualify wrong and offensive statements reported, or it is implied that the journalist approves of the position.

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    The use of “race science” in this headline has been bugging me and I only just realized why. Questionable race science would be claiming that e.g. asian women think in some particularly useful way, or any other specific claim about race that is hard to prove. But it’s actually quite easy to show asian women have small hands, I assume – at least, it seems to me like asian women do tend to have much smaller hands than men of other races. This is not the dubious claim. The dubious claim is whether those smaller hands are useful or not.

    I am not really sure what to make of this, I’m still grappling with this one. Just thought I’d share my scattered thoughts.

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        To be clear, you’re saying that asian women typically having smaller hands is dubious? I have to double-check because I’m astonished anyone doubts this.

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          From the article :

          For one thing, it’s not even clear that the claim that Chinese women have small fingers is even true. Research on global hand size is lacking, but one study found that the average Chinese person has a hand size approximately equal to that of the average German. An analysis of hand size around the world, though it didn’t include China, found that even the largest average differences in women’s hand size between countries was negligible.

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            Interesting! I wouldn’t have expected germans and chinese people to have similar hand sizes, given their heights differ.

            The study you linked right off the bat claims that women from the Philippines have markedly larger hand sizes than other women. I notice that analysis doesn’t include standard deviation or calculate statistical significance. It also looks like women from vietnam have smaller hand sizes, which is not surprising to me, because people from vietnam tend to be shaped in a way that is different from people from other countries, though I don’t know why.

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    I agree with the outrage, but I don’t know that using race science to combat race science is the way to attack this horseshit. Futurism essentially says “the NYT says Asians have small hands, but what the race science actually says is that hand size is yada yada etc. etc.”

    Like, is race science silly or is it not? 🤷‍ If science said that, yes, Asian women have unusually small and “nimble” fingers, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference; the entire concept is stupid and racist, not just the inaccuracy of the hand measurements. Needling over the microdifferences in index finger girth between Asians and Americans (who may well be of Asian descent themselves) is missing the whole-ass point.

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    I guess the NYT no longer has an editor on staff? Who the fuck let that go to print, also who writes something like that into an article - that little paragraph where the NYT claims that “industry experts” said Chinese girls are better at assembling phones reads like cringe AI slop.

    I feel like literally one person proofreading that should have been enough for them to go, “maybe don’t print the stupid racist thing about small fingers.”

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      If it’s children doing it then it’s not racist anymore. – NYT, probably

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      capitalist mutual masturbation and manufactured cognitive dissonance / distraction so they don’t have to actually change anything and effect profit potential. while they wait for daddy dictator trump to open their proposals in the form of a cotton sack with a dollar sign on the side.

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      Authors name is “Tripp” and if he’s a real person he 100% used AI to write it.

      I’m guessing his grandfather was/is loaded and connected. I’ve never met a man in my life who goes by “Tripp” and isn’t an insufferable douche coasting off generational wealth.

      The crazy part is he just “wrote” a book about Apple, and there’s a good chance Apple execs he talked to really said that stupid racist thing.

      • thanks AV@lemmy.world
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        He goes by tripp because, according to his personal image consultant, “Leopold reitbarth the third” didn’t test well with under 30s in their focus groups

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      They will fire the editor and writer (who are probably overworked and forced to use AI slop to meet deadlines), and the cycle begins anew.