Hello guys i have a qustion about which distro i should use?
I want to dual boot windows and linux
I just want a safe place away from microsoft eyes to do edit and drawing and other hobbies on my pc. And playing some games like cs2 & 2d games Also the distro run my wallpaper engine Should be popular distro so if i have a problem i can ask about it
Please dont tell me linux mint because i tried it 3 times and everytime i do anything simple the distro goes off and i should re install i won’t give it anymore chances thank you 😖
Edit: thank you guys for typing your suggests. after some search i will give bazzite try and if won’t work like i want. I will go with the other suggests I really enjoyed reading all your suggests
Based on your last paragraph, you might fall in the supernoob catergory. You’ll want an immutable distribution, you can’t break those Unless you tell it to let you break it.
As a windows user, you’ll find familiarity in Fedora Kionite.
If you prefer a touchscreen oriented experience consider Fedora Silverblue.
There’s a few other options on the page I’m linking, I haven’t tried and therefore can’t recommend either of the others.
https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/
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Edit 2, electric boogaloo:
OP in your post you state you want Wallpaper Engine to work, unfortunately, you’ll have issues there. Depending on what you’re trying to accomplish with wallpaper engine you may be able to do the same using KDE Plasma. I personally use a VLC command line call to enable animated wallpapers on my rig, there’s not exactly a standard for it on Linux so many of the solutions you find will be clunky. Just remember if you go around messing with your xorg.conf file you need to have a backup of it so you can undo changes easily in a terminal.
You’re welcome to DM me if you need assistance.
I think immutable is great for everyone, I struggle to find a point against it but maybe I’m a supernoob too hahaha (I use NixOS, btw)
I was under the impression that the fedora atomic distros are hard to dual boot on a single drive.
Historically yes, but this appears to not exactly be the case any longer.
Reference https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/284
There does appear to be a way to do it, from a cursory glance at the above it seems that Fedora and Windows need to have separate EFI partitions, I’m not all that invested though (I don’t use these distros nor do I dual boot) so I don’t really care to look much deeper.
For a more gaming-ready experience, Bazzite might suit you:
People seem to love bazzite, is it all its cracked up to be?
I’m happy with my lmde htpc/server/gamingrig/clusterfuck so I’m not planning on changing, but I’ve been in the market for a handheld gaming PC and its been on my list to try.
Bazzite is just kinoite / silverblue repackaged as Universal Blue, and then modified to preinstall some qol apps and settings. So if you like the original, but don’t want to start with a blank slate, want the nice things out of the box, start with Bazzite/bluefin/aurora (gaming/gnome/KDE).
For people who know what they’re doing/want, starting blank slate makes sense. For newbies or people who don’t feel like dealing with that 🙋🏼♂️ the latter is a better recommendation imho
I mainly use my Bazzite machine for gaming and it was rough at first (~1 year ago) but it seems like compatibility has made leaps and bounds recently. I don’t play a ton of different games but I’ve had to do very little tweaking to make them work. 90% have been install-and-play. Usually ProtonDB can help you work out the kinks.
grumpy graybeard/neckbeard here but bazzite and bluefin feel like what I wanted out of Linux 25-30 years ago and I’m so glad we’ve reached this point.
I put Bazzite on an Intel n100 box I’m using as an HTPC. Super easy install and it was ready to go and working just fine very quickly. Jellyfin works really well! It really is quite incredible how far things have come since my first install of Ubuntu 14.04. Atomic could really make some headway on making Linux easy for a typical user. Wine has come a LOOOONG way help keep compatibility too.
Way better than my Ubuntu desktop. The only thing hold me back on putting an atomic distro on my desktop is not familiar with how things like Python venvs would work for development. That and I use a global hotkey program for Team speak since they haven’t updated to handle Wayland global keys.
No, Bazzite is very hardware dependent. Good if you use the same hardware as the devs. If you don’t, it’ll make you want to go back to Windows.
The only thing that will get me back on windows is the Net Yaroze SDK which came out for windows 95-XP, I have a period accurate airgapped PC for that stuff though.
As a noob I really like it. I ran popOS for almost a year, then arch for like two months. I tried fedora for like a week before arch but then decided to try bazzite on a little htpc for the living room, then put it on my main gaming desktop, now I have it on my laptop where I edit photos and videos as a hobby and its been pretty solid.
I don’t really like that it wants you to use flatpaks for everything, since darktable as a flatpaks kept crashing and rapid photo downloaded didn’t have a flatpak so I ended up installing stuff with the ostree rpm but rapid photo is old and not sure how to update it to current version
You can use distrobox to install a version meant for another distro, afaik
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Or maybe they’re just genuinely a fan?
I don’t even like fedora ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I just thought it’d be easier.
Ah I see, pretty far from a shill then lol
Yeah, those people who use and recommend it are just in the pocket of Big Fedora!
Buddy I’ve got my pronouns in my username please don’t misgender me.
Additionally, your response is needlessly hostile. You’ve offered no additional information and have chosen my comment to be a naysayer on presumably only because it is the top comment on the post. You’ve contributed nothing but vitriol to this thread.
I couldn’t give two shits what distros people use, and I’m not a fucking shill. OP wanted a suggestion, I gave 4. I used tobhse Fedora because it’s easy, with a large community, and with the bleeding edge release cycle the newest libraries became available more easily without enabling testing repositories or using sketchy PPAs that haven’t been vetted.
If OP weren’t noob, and weren’t someone who has already broken a mint install three times I’d have recommended that use something Debian based or Arch based, but they are, so I didn’t.
I have to give it that the Fedora distros are a slightly bit superior to Ubuntu variants but for those that value some degree of not favoring corporate US (IBM/Red Hat) that provides AI resources for Israel’s military to do what it is doing… Myself I tried to like Mint, I really did… but could not… not just it is old-fashioned looking but has limitations with scaling and others.
Now, I do recognize for the initiators is it great! Now, for those that find Mint ugly I recommend TuxedoOS… I find it as good as Kubuntu but without its known limitations with flatpaks. Yes, TuxedoOS was created for Tuxedo laptops but they left it open to use it with others so no problems at all and very well maintained. Now, you may want remove the Tuxedo app that they installed just to free some resources… a 10-seconds thing to do. Drawback is servers in Germany so a bit slower updates than usual for most.
Vanilla Debian would probably suit a Fedora user better
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I just installed Nobara in a similar setup for similar reasons a few days ago after having several bad experiences with Pop, Ubuntu, and Mint. I wanted to move away from Ubuntu-based distros and Nobara seems like it’s focused on gaming (frequent updates, etc). It’s been… I dunno if great is the right word, but pretty good. I run into difficulties of some variety with almost everything I do (can’t install battle.net in lutris because it hangs at 45%, lutris can’t log into epic games store, etc), but I’ve also found solutions for them without too much trouble and the games that I have managed to install run great.
Yeh I don’t think Nobara is beginner friendly. I’d say my experience was the same as yours. Difficulties with lots of things, but could find solutions. Given it wasn’t my primary PC, and I don’t have time for that - gone for mint (needed some stale stale kernl)
To be fair that was also my experience with PopOS which is designed to be user-friendly. The answer to questions like ‘how do I take a screenshot of a region and copy it to clipboard without spamming files’ or ‘how do I switch audio devices between speakers and headset’ just tends to be ‘run this long-ass command you would never have figured out on your own’ or ‘Write a shell script full of such commands to do it for you and call it with a shortcut key’. I think this is a linux problem, not a distro problem, because it was the same way when I was using redhat 15 years ago or slackware 30 years ago.
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Linux Mint Debian Edition.
You say not to suggest mint, but you most probably used an Ubuntu based Mint so that doesn’t count.
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Suggesting NixOS to a completely new user is stupid. NixOS is cool but very different from almost all Linux distros. Comes with its own language you have to learn as well.
Fedora or UwUntu.
Fuck Red Hat and their closed source bullshit
While I agree with the sentiment, fedora is fairly independent to their RHEL in terms of operations right?
I just don’t want to associate with anything Canonical or Red Hat if I can help it
I get that but at this point shouldn’t we get more people on this side. Like I think redhad and canonical are infinitely better than microsoft. Lesser of 2 evils and all. Who knows one day they may start using arch (btw)
Also uwuntu is a derivative of Ubuntu.
Or, why not use something that’s neither of the three?
Suggestions?
I use NixOS FWIW
Linux Mint Debian Edition.
Obviously you can’t completely rid yourself of all RedHat influence but Fedora is their literal upstream community testing ground and LMDE really does limit their influence heavily and that of Canonical (Ubuntu) by just building off of the more community based Debian (which Ubuntu built off of as well)
I agree. I don’t trust any of the shilling surrounding their distros.
Fedora KDE would be my suggestion
Any major distro will work, it’s the Desktop Environment that you’ll want to examine. Whether GNOME, KDE, Xfce, etc. the DE is what you’ll mostly deal with when computing. Try distrowatch.com for a good overview of various flavors. I, personally, have always started newbies off with PCLOS with KDE, as Tex tends to avoid the bleeding edge in favor of stability.
@Mojtaba you can try Manjaro, is a nice distro
Just note that is you really need a safe place, having Windows installed on the same machine is counter productive. Make sure you encrypt your Linux partitions. Otherwise it’s very easy to mount them and sniff all the things from Windows.
I don’t think that’s right because windows cannot even read linux files and if i just separate the partitions i am safe form windows stalking
No. Windows does not support ext filesystems without a third party driver.
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Mint is a good transition from windows
Tried it and hate it
Yeah, honestly I don’t get all the love for mint whenever this question comes up. Bazzite’s a good choice, I’m running Bluefin it’s sister (same thing but not geared toward gamers) and it’s been great from a set it and forget it perspective. One caution is that they don’t always play nice with dual booting, so make sure you do your due diligence backing up what’s important to you.
I am doing backup right now and for the important files i just put it on my hhd and everytime i do something in systems and boot manger i just plug off the hard to make sure nothing gone
Maybe try Tuxedo?
What did you hate from it?
Should be popular distro so if i have a problem i can ask about it
I mean, Arch has the Arch Wiki which is very good. (I use Arch, btw.) 😸
I’m surprised Mint is giving you trouble. Where you doing something… risky? Or maybe the hardware you’re running isn’t very compatible?
Otherwise, a distro like VanillaOS (or any immutable distro) might be able to keep your system more stable.
Well it’s my fault a little but mint was so much sucks in my own hobbies and give a lot of crashes and lag i was so angry in the last time i tried it i wanted to type sudo kill system but i didn’t i just remove it from windows
Try Manjaro. It will be the easiest to set up and find software that hasn’t been deliberately packaged for your setup.
Clearly this comment is unpopular but it sure would be handy if anyone took the time to say why
(I used to be a Manjaro user)
Let’s say Manjaro has a bad history and a lot of people don’t take them seriously anymore and trust them even less.
At the very least it is quite a messy distro to use.
I’m a big fan of Elementary OS, it’s likely the most user friendly desktop, easy to use and plenty of advanced features, such as thoughtful options to make the interface usable by everyone.