• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      as another user in the comments here put it quite well:

      we shouldn’t be laughing at the people in the US just because we’re fucked in the ass with slightly more lube.

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    I feel this so much. I just want to have a few consecutive months off in a row and then I’ll be good to go for the rest of the year

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    You’d have a revolution on your hands if hard working people suddenly realized what they were missing when the 3-month vacation is denied them the next year.

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      I can only hope that the US goes through a revolution in the near future. I’m so tired of hearing about how poorly treated we are compared to other countries around the world. American #1 my ass. The things that the US ranks high in are considered the worst things to be highly ranked in. (Unless you’re a lunatic, dictator, oligarchy at wits’ end, etc.

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    Corporate: not a chance in hell. You’re lucky you get annual leave at all, if it wasn’t mandated by law you’d never get that either.

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      Hot take: tons of office jobs are super reasonable. Small to mid sized companies that don’t do anything particularly exciting, where you can find a position where you play an important role in the company but someone else can take on the work you normally do when needed, or the work you do only needs to be done at certain times of the year. You can talk directly to the owner, or managers have leeway to handle employees schedules without a ton of oversight.

      Talk to whoever you need to. Explain how time off is more important to you than pay, and how the company will still do well when you take extended time off. It goes 1 of 3 ways. They agree immediately - win. They want proof that your idea will work - so prove it will work, then win. Or they outright refuse or fire you, in which case you find somewhere else to work and try again until you win.

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        Yeah idk what jobs you’re talking about…every time I see posts from people complaining (rightfully) about the office environment it’s from big companies.

        Small to mid: small company , small salary. And like…tiny progression opportunities lol. I genuinely don’t see how these would be better at all than corpos, bc a lot of small companies try to cram multiple jobs into one too bc they usually can’t afford to hire as many people as they’d like. Rare companies like what you described do exist though, just…v rare

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      One thing I miss about working at Amazon was not only the 4 day work weeks, but the fact that they handed out PTO so generously that you could literally call off one day every single week (or sleep in and come in late every single day, which is what I did), and it was absolutely fine.

      But unfortunately I had to leave cause I got tired of the thermostat being set to 83°F, and the management who wouldn’t lift a finger for anybody. Still, not the worst place in the world to work. You can just put on your headphones, load up a playlist of podcasts, and zone out for your entire shift. Not having to go through an interview process is nice too. Just show up, take a picture, spit on a sponge (they don’t drug test for weed), and you’re hired.

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      4 day work weeks or 52 vacation days per year as a minimum. You can either take one day a week and only work 4 days each week, or save them up and take a 10 week vacation.

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      Eh. In practice, we’re fairly abused as well. I may have more holidays than my US counterparts, but in reality I can only take vacation when the schedule of the company allows it, which is never more than a week at a time at best and like three days in a row realistically.

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        Depends on a country of course yeah, my home country has a law that forces us to use continuous, uninterrupted, 3 week vacation in a year.

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            YEAH THAT SOUNDS FUCKING HORRIBLE, TORTURE REALLY.

            I however am the rare american who is enjoying my third uninterrupted week of total freedom. This is because I was fired from my job three weeks ago. Corporate restructuring my ass.

            The time is nice and I did get some severance, but there is zero enjoyment knowing that if I don’t land a job soon, I will be hard fucked. Sorry kids, we are canceling music lessons, and any other recreations until your loser unemployed parent can get work again. Wheee!

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              I hate it because I’m forced to take it, even if I’d want to take 2+2+1 week instead.

              Many times if be much better off being able to not take three consecutive weeks off and use that time at other parts of the year. The 3 weeks also HAVE to be taken in June, July, or May. I hate summer and prefer staying indoors and working in AC.

              Let me take those 3 consecutive weeks at any time of the year and it’d be great. I’d love to go snowboarding for 3 weeks.

              BUT I am glad the law exists at all, forcing employers to give people proper vacations.

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        That seems to be highly dependent on location…we also have to coordinate with the needs of the company where i live, however we are still entitled to minimum 3 weeks vacation during summer (june-august) and at least two of them back to back regardless of the needs of the company.

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          Also very dependent on the type of work you’re doing. If a certain amount of people need to be on site and you need to coordinate that, things get more difficult.

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          If I were to put in two weeks back to back, there’s nothing they could legally do to stop me, true. But since we don’t even have a union at my job, retaliation is guaranteed. Considering it took me the better part of five years to get the job in the first place, the result is that you unfortunately don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

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            Sounds like a crazy toxic workplace TBH, I have never worked somewhere where 3 weeks coherent summer vacation wasn’t the norm in the entire company, with the remaining 3 weeks at your disposal for the rest of the year. We’re generally not unionised in my profession where i live either, at least not in the private sector.

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            the result is that you unfortunately don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

            *the hand that steals 99.9% of the value you create and leaves you with a few crumbs.

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        In my country you get almost 1 month of vacation time with extra days depending on work (I work Saturdays too so I get extra 4 days because of it) of which it’s actually mandatory that you take 2 weeks in one go so you really unplug yourself from work. The rest is as you please.

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      I’m not really a Marxist but I do believe in “Workers of the world, unite!” and that includes Yankees. Laughing at your misfortune because I’m getting fucked with slightly more lube would be kinda short sighted.

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    There’s enough people and money in the world that everyone could take 6 months off and we’d still maintain 90s levels of productivity.

    I’d be fine with that.

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    We shouldn’t be limited to a summer break we should do seasonal breaks instead. I would cover the summer season if someone else would cover my autumn or winter.

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      Actually, no. Not according to the research. (Which I can’t find right now; just in a quick break.)

      Essentially, somewhere (?) had the whole region take vacation at the same time, if possible. (Not essential services and obviously vacation businesses, lol). They found much greater benefits when there’s a large chunk of the population all off at the same time, and makes everyone happier (even those who have to still work).

      They think the reasons are twofold:

      1. We’re social creatures, and being able to connect with people meaningfully depends on them also being available at the same time.
      2. When the region is on “vacation”, everyone gets more relaxed/chill, even those who are still working. Basically “vibes”. (They were a lot more technical in the study, lol).

      Sorry I can’t link it, but something like “everyone who can be is off from July 15-August 15” would have big societal benefits.