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LibreWolf W. Missing my boy Zen Browser on there tho
Edit: also RIP Mull 😔✊
What happened to mull ? :o
The DivestOS project mostly discontinued. There is a Fork called IronFox
Stop sharing and platforming the nazi
Also, this tierlist sucks fucking balls
Oh god how are there so many of you freaks
.ml is full of freaks, and so many instances do not defederate for some ungodly reason… I say make the freaks have to leave their comfort zone if they want to engage with real people.
Instance-based tribalism is stupid. I’d expect as much from a .world-er 🙃
You’re not proving me wrong here, chief.
Sarcasm, captain.
Says the banned user.
Superiority complex in the comments.
Why would you even follow his advice, he’s found a new way to generate clicks just ignore his advice.
He doesn’t even know mull?
It’s a youtuber, who made this, and people feel hurt, because he doesn’t put their browser at the top. That’s just sad. He puts Firefox at the top - I use Firefox, and I still don’t care what he thinks about it. I make informed choices, it’s not religion for me…
He didn’t even made this, is a screenshot of a bunch of browsers that appears for 2 seconds on a video.
Then it’s evwn dumber of people to judge pewdiepie over where browsers are on the list…
That’s a good find that famous people are getting into FOSS (should be free as in freedom too). But it’s really not a good thing that they spread a non expert speaking to the crowd.
Tier lists are meant to be mainly subjective and pretty relative to the person that made it. In that way Pewdipie could quote experts but in no case should make a tier list based on what he found the last weeks (I didn’t fully watched the video so maybe I’m wrong and he made a big disclaimer)
If you watch the video, Felix tells you twice in the same sentence that he uses Arch.
Lemmy had taught me that this means Felix IS an expert on FOSS
How sorry didn’t know, so that make him really one of the biggest expert in FOSS 100%
Right? Lol
Just because PewDiePie switched to Linux doesn’t mean we should listen to his browser recommendations
not his recommendations
Very true, I feel like people miss the point of his own experience and/or opinion
True but he’s sparking more interest in FOSS so that’s still a good thing. I doubt his advice is perfect but if it gets more people started onto their own journey it’s a win.
You’re right about that, I was moreso saying that his crappy browser tier list isn’t worth sharing
People on Lemmy seem to be Pewdiepie bootlickers. Idk why but it’s really weird. Apparently you can do whatever but as long as you promote Linux, Lemmy will love you. Ridiculous.
Crazy to see how much people on here hate this guy
yeah, super weird how people hate a fascist
I don’t mean this in a mean way, honestly curious – fascist how? As far as I know he made a couple of distasteful jokes a decade ago and apologized for it. Not great but we should stop using words like fascist and Nazi unless we can back it up.
No Zen-Browser (though I am not sure when this vid was made), and Pale Moon should be in the “Not ideal for a normal human” at best.
Why is this guy popping up so much lately on Lemmy? I remember thinking this guy was a piece of shit about a decade ago…
I haven’t kept up with the times. Was I right? Or did I become an angry old man 20 years to early?
You could just watch the video
Watching the video is unlikely to answer my question.
It is quite the opposite. It will answer your question in it’s first 30secs. Even reading the other comments here will. Lol.
Quite literally the opposite. The first minute does not answer my question about why he has been appearing all over lemmy. Neither do the comments here.
Sure he’s trying to degoogle. Hence this post, but that is not what I asked.
Unclear if you’re a troll or just choosing to be dense…
You might be trolling. Good luck leading your life with that wit.
Ah, clearly a degen troll. My lemmy will be a better place with you on the block list.
Slow guy doesn’t even know what degen means.
I like my browser hard AF
Brave is a series scam company.
Firefox is a monopoly’s pet
all hail lynx
Real experts browse the web by email
Is there anything emacs cannot do?
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Y’all are seriously still using the internet?
AFAIK it hasn’t been used as an OS yet (meaning init - the thing you start after bootloader). Or a bootloader
Right?
Richard Stallman style!
My brain read this to the tune of Gangnam Style
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Making a joke about a ridiculous habit is hardly making someone a hero.
And yet it uses less RAM in Android phones compared to my goat, Firefox… Man FF needs a lot of improvements, all my complaints come from Android, the browser is perfect even on macOS!
Firefox still doesn’t support tab groups on mobile. That’s a non-starter for me. Hopfully Ladybird has their shit better put together than mozilla when they finally release their browser
I haven’t heard about that browser, it seems that it does its own thing, IDK man, if FF that has years in the market and still hasn’t caught up, I have no big hopes for “new” projects.
Exactly I’d even use Chrome before I’d ever touch Brave.
brave search otoh is pretty gud. I believe they even do their own indexing.
Would you mind giving some context? Ive never used Brave, but my dad does. In which sense is it a “scam”? Would want him to switch if its terrible
People care more about CEO’s opinion on politics and hate Web3 crypto more than they understand technical browser stuff.
Brave is far from perfect and the company had their contreveries but honestly if you disable all the cryptocrap and tweak it a tiny bit so it does not show you ads and feature you don’t use it is the best chromium browser in regards to security and privacy.
Ungoogled chromium by default can’t even compare, it’s not crap but brave does so much more than it’s better for the vast majority of users.
Good summary! Thank you!
Ive used Brave for about 2 years. Its great. I have everything turned off, and all shields up, plus deactivated ‘Leo’ AI. Whats not to like?
What exactly has he done to warrant considering this? He’s a yt star, not a privacy expert.
He’s been getting into FOSS and privacy lately
So explicitly not an expert.
Yeah but he was never claiming to be. I don’t think he made any direct recommendations in the video.
Just him documenting his own journey de-googling.
My point is it serves no purpose here.
tits no his list
Somehow even less useful, since the source can’t even be verified.
Brave? Hard no. Vivaldi? Also no.
Also, where are qutebrowser and Zen?
qutebrowser and IceCat are real top of the game when it comes to privacy. But then, they break some of the sites functionality, especially IceCat who seems to be going under the “if your site doesn’t work, it’s your site’s problem” motto.
What’s bad about Vivaldi?
It’s proprietary
The UI is as far as I know proprietary
Nothing in the browser should be proprietary. Any proprietary part is a possibility of malice, and browsers are mission critical.
I don’t disagree with that. It’s just that most browsers are built that way, unfortunately. Nothing is free, not even Firefox. If you want to sell it, it’s hard to maintain reasonable expectations that people won’t just build it from source instead of buying it. Something 100% free can’t maintain itself over long time.
Firefox is open source, and while it takes some shady practices to fund it (it sure isn’t cheap to run your own damn engine alongside everything on top), I take it as a more tenable compromise. It’s not about free as in beer freedom, it’s about basic security.
You can also have degoogled Chromium which is open-source if you’re into it.
Even EDGE is a ungoogled Chromium (but containing M$ tracking APIs instead). Vivaldi IS a degoogled Chromium, a small part of the UI (by far the most advanced one of any other browser) is proprietary, but not really obfuscated, they show even in the support forum how the user can modding it, if for him isn’t enough what he can do in the most complete setting page ever, the only thing is, you can’t use it for other browser projects. It’s certainly not a privacy or security issue.
Chromium as is, is 100% FLOSS but because of this isn’t more private or secure as a proprietary soft, FLOSS isn’t automaticly synonym of privacy and security, a lot of people confuse it, it’s not the propósit of OpenSource, privacy and security of an soft depends only of the intentions of the developer or company, not if their soft is OSS or not. The user can audit the soft, which in any case is needed if he don’t want or be able to check millons of lines in the code which a complex soft like a browser engine has.
Which is honestly fair? Like, i would enjoy a “unsafe site, access anyways?” button, but if privacy settings break a page that literally is the pages fault for not respecting privacy.
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Kinda, but I would like to tailor my experience a bit more than “all or nothing”.
IceCat is directly a GNU project, so it’s highly ideological - which is important and respectable in a way, but then it gets adoption to near-zero because most sites just don’t work out of the box, and to make it work properly means completely removing all safeguards that make IceCat make sense. There’s little in between.
I’d rather have something like LibreWolf, but without phone-home functionality, or at least a switch to turn it off. Out of all Firefox forks I know, only IceCat respects user privacy in this way - 0 connections on startup, and then only connection to actual site and whatever it requires.
Opt-in telemetry (ideally - leveled) and manual bug information sending are totally fine, though.
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