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My experiences were to answer correctly, and then they go ‘well, yes’, and then don’t ask me questions in the future.
same. i guess they want to make sure to ask people who don’t already know everything, sothat everybody has a chance of learning.
My English-as-second-language teacher hated me because I kept correcting her spelling and vocabulary. But it was okay because I hated her right back and took every opportunity to annoy her (for the sake of rigorous accuracy, of course). Fortunately she couldn’t actually harm or sabotage me because I aced almost all of my tests and had good scores in national ESL competitions, and a sudden drop in grades would likely have been too obvious.
The point where I’d had enough was a test about the anatomy of vehicles. She had crossed out my answer to “left side of a ship” because I’d written port or larboard (not that I expected someone with a master’s diploma to know the etymology of nautical terms*, or not to confuse larboard with starboard because they looked similar), but what made my blood fucking boil was when she crossed out my answers of hood and trunk because I’d used the American words instead of the British bonnet and boot, and when I pointed out that she’d marked those same answers as correct in others’ tests, she went back and fucking changed the scores on the other tests. I told her it was “deplorable conduct for a teacher” (approximate translation, and as polite as I was going to get that day) and she dragged me to the principal for disrupting the class.
That was the third year of high school (I think “junior” is the American equivalent). I took an option to graduate one year early from ESL, in part out of spite. I’m sure she was glad to be rid of me.
* I knew “larboard” and “starboard” and the names of individual sails from Assassin’s Creed 4. Much of my vocabulary comes from games (including some Russian from STALKER, Metro, and MGSV).
edit: A resurfaced memory! Still regarding sailing – she thought “in distress” meant that things were calm and safe because “di-stress” was the opposite of “stress”. I swear I’m not making this shit up!
this reminds me of a time (similar situation, english as a second language, and i knew english better than the english teacher) the teacher was talking about past tense, and trying to find a word that ends with a “y” to show an example of adding “ed” to the end.
the example? buy turning into buyed. i corrected her, saying the past tense of buy was bought. she gave another example: fly turning into flyed. i corrected her again, saying it was flew, but she just gave up and used flyed as the example anyway
When we started learning about past tense (primary school, probably 6th year, amazing teacher), the first thing we learned was a list of irregular verbs. We spent at least a week just memorizing them before the regular -d/-ed verbs were even mentioned. I’d like to think it was a deliberate choice, to condition us to consider irregular verbs first when using past tense.
That same teacher also taught us how to write and read the international phonetic alphabet. Again, she was amazing.
i wish i had that teacher at school. thankfully i had a pretty good teacher in an english course i did for a few years
this is all really surprising. what were the native languages here? it was in the uk right?
Europe, but not an English-speaking country. No native speakers were involved.
Why are you going to be learning negative numbers while you are 8? Edit: Reading the comments I see that your schools are pretty shit compared to my public school was way better (even when the building was on the verge of collapsing for like the whole time I was there)
Never stop fighting their lies
Ah I recall my “science” teacher when I was 13 explaining to us that all materials expand when heated and shrink when cooled.
So I ask how ice floats, or how ice cubes swell above the tray.
And a good teacher would have told you that water freezing is one of the weird cases, as water has a less dense solid form than its liquid form. Although even water is less dense at 2° than at 20°
Dude, School was the worst f’ing psyop.
Give me a straight question and answer on the material, and I’ll 100% it. No, we can’t do that… Here’s four answers that are all technically correct, choose the MOST correct one.
Ohh so it’s pros and cons of a situation and you need to pick the one with the most upsides or least downsides? No, they’re all just mostly ok, but we were REALLY thinking about answer B when we wrote the question.
School is like slavery in many aspects to be honest. Though it‘s really not a physical one, but a mental one.
You can not do much without getting permission from an authority figure first, including relieving basic biological needs such as eating or using the bathroom. You are not allowed to leave the facilities without permission. You are classified into different groups based on your performance on tests, and eventually seperated based on that (usually at high school/university level). You are trained for at least 12 years in this way to obey arbitrary rules and procedures, which are designed to get you ready for the capitalist hellscape that awaits you. Some countries even use this period of time to push another agenda on you, usually one related to religion &\ nationalism. At last, you come out of it (while probably having forgotten many of the things ”taught” to you) and you are immediately put into mandatory military service, or you come to the point of needing a service job just to survive.
Autodidacticism definitely rocks, and homeschooling would be a better idea if one was qualified for it and the child’s social needs could be met elsewhere.
Kinda unrelated to your example, but I just wanted to expand on your psyop comment.
That’s a solid take. The difference I’ve noticed, though everyone’s experience is different, is with homeschooling. From what I’ve seen, quite a few parents take it on despite not really being suited for it. Some seem to have their own forms of indoctrination, the kind that even public schools won’t entertain, so they choose to keep their kids out entirely.
My son has a handful of friends who are homeschooled. (We kept him home a bit longer during Covid while he did remote learning, and he kept a lot of those friends.) His friends span the full spectrum: a couple are pretty middle-of-the-road, you’d never guess they were homeschooled. One lives under really strict, almost militant control, and another seems to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
I hate the crap that goes on when the establishment runs the game, but I also hate what happens when nutjobs run their own game. It’s like we need some kind of framework to keep everyone on the same page, where kids just learn and excel. We should get nominal discipline, learn self-control, but also not be pigeonholeed with a lot of redtape used to protect schools from legal action. Some kind of common sense brigade :)
Homeschooling works best for the kids when the parents aren’t working and are well educated. Most parents don’t meet these requirements, the ones that do usually do and the kids to private school because it costs about the same.
The time I told the story about how I had mud pies for my 5th birthday and said they used Oreo crumbs to make it look more realistic …. I was stood in front of the entire kindergarten and made to say the word and what it meant.
Idk why I don’t like attention 40 years later
What word? Oreo?
realistic
School really does prepare you for real life sometimes, it seems …
The bajillion stories in the comments about horrible experiences with math just reinforce the fact that I’ve made the right career choice.
I became an elementary teacher as a second career specifically because so many elementary teachers are absolutely terrible at teaching math. (Mostly because they don’t actually understand the math that they’re teaching. In my university cohort, almost 50% of my classmates failed the math entrance exam the first time. There was nothing more complex than 5th grade math on that test.)
Students should be allowed to use the strategies that work for them, and they should definitely never be punished for knowing math from higher grade levels.
If a student in my class knows something more advanced, I will challenge them to use grade-level-appropriate strategies to prove that their answers are correct. And if they demonstrate that they can do both, I’ll give them more advanced work to help them grow.
Seeing several of the most brain-dead people I knew in high school going into teaching really made me lose a little respect for teachers. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve had some great teachers, but this really explains all the shitty ones.
There’s good out there too. I was good at maths in school and was encouraged to do more advanced stuff
This thread should be called “how kids get traumatized by school teachers causing them to hate school”
Anon gets traumatized by teachers
Still with the lame pokemon. Shit was lame then and is lame now.
Had a similar experience in what I think must have been my second year of primary school.
I was asked to go through a math problem that was written out, something like “4 + 7 = ?”.
I said “Four plus seven equals eleven”.
The teacher said that was wrong and said “Four add seven is eleven”.
I’m like, what is the difference? She says, we aren’t onto “plus” and “equals” yet
Six year old me spent an unreasonable amount of time trying to figure out how their was some difference between plus and add. She just could have said “they are the same, but please use these words to describe them in our lessons”.
The other children are not familiar with that concept yet. Saying that will confuse them!
They have to be taught step by step.
This is always the case. Whenever you deal with any educational institution, they don’t want you to give them the right answer ever. They want you to give them the answer that they told you that you should give; whether it’s right or wrong
Reading these comments is bad for my health (╥﹏╥) What are the reasons for them to act this way? Seems sometimes they’re just ignorant, other times definitely power tripping.
I def had some weird experiences like this in school too, though not as extreme. I had a teacher once give me a zero on an exam because I used greater than and less than symbols to describe two lines intersecting. She thought I did them all backwards. Normally I’d be too shy to push back but zero on an exam was pretty extreme so I went to discuss one on one and she basically called me dumb saying I don’t know how the symbols worked (this was like 9th grade, I def did and was pretty alarmed she didn’t). Finally she said fine, she’ll go ask a math teacher to come explain to me in front of the class if I’m so smart. She left, was gone for like ten minutes, and came back super upset. Slams the paper on my desk in front of everyone and says something like ‘fine I guess you want an A now?’. Was traumatizing. But was actually a huge teaching moment for me in that I stopped seeing teachers as things/concepts, and started seeing them as people. Same as me/my classmates/some random on the street. No one has this shit figured out. I also realized I never wanted the experience she just had, and learned to always hedge my opinions. It looks like, I think, it seems to me, etc. Has saved me from looking stupid but also encouraged those that I teach to question my dumb shit. But yeah. Teachers are just people, have you met people?
Side note my math teacher was extra nice to me that afternoon - I also learned that the teachers don’t necessarily like each other either. Apparently I had helped score points for the ‘not batshit insane’ crew
This sounds like someone following a preprepared lesson plan without the skills or experience to adapt, and panicking.
This or something similar has happened to everyone I know 🇨🇦
