The Powers That Be: “Why do you have that hammer?”
Angry Masses: “To destroy and/or repair the system. Your pick, depending on how cooperative you are.”
“The whole fucking city is on fire cause of what you did.”
“I know, isn’t it beautiful?”
The pictures are an angel and a demon from the Amazon Prime series “Good Omens”, if you were wondering.
Is it worth watching? I’m not sure what kind of show it is…I watched about 10mins of the first episode and couldn’t get into it. Couldn’t figure out if it was fantasy, comedy, comedy-horror, or something else. It felt weird. An angel and demon meet up and chat about the apocalypse?
Does it get better?
The first season is incredible. Tennant and Sheen have an amazing chemistry together and they’re both phenomenal actors. The story is very Pratchetty if you’re familiar with his work. Second season is a bit so-so but still good, mostly because I didn’t really like the ending.
I concur, first season was incredible, one of the best series I’ve watched in the last few years. And it had a real ending + finished storyline: no aggravating cliffhangers or loose ends, no endless milking or filler episodes to uselessly extent the viewtime, just a very good finished story that never left me bored. This feels so rare these days.
I’m now watching the 2nd series and so far it’s been so so indeed. I’m not very far yet though.
Yeah the second season honestly felt a bit like a fan fict. Not bad, per se, just an excuse to keep using the characters but nothing new in terms of message.
Probably nothing to be done about that with Pratchett’s death.
yeah it was absolutely a fan fic, but tbh I’m still glad it was made! If you have the time and money to create a work of art (that isn’t meant to just be a cashgrab) flipping go for it, and Neil clearly had fun making it, and brining the shipping crowds to their knees lmao
Apparently the sequel was planned by Pratchett and Gaiman a while ago. Season two only took some elements of it, and the rest of it should be what season three is about. I trust Gaiman to make it work.
IF we get a season three. It hasn’t been renewed yet, and won’t be until after the actors strike, if it is renewed. But, Gaiman has promised that if a season three doesn’t happen on TV, he’ll write it as a book, so as to not leave everyone hanging.
I read Diggers as a lad and enjoyed it but I’ve never bothered to get into his Discworld stuff cos it seems too vast. I’ll watch the first two episodes and see if it clicks. Thank you. 👍
While there are many connections between discworld books, none of them are required reading. You can jump in anywhere. I’d recommend starting at Guards! Guards!
It’s based on a book by Sir Terry Pratchett (GNU Terry Pratchett, you shall be missed) and Neil Gaiman. If you know Pratchett then you know it’s mostly going to be an absurdist comedy.
Other works I recommend from Pratchett are Going Postal, Equal Rites, and Guards! Guards!
GNU Terry Pratchett, you shall be missed
My favorite ‘intro’ to the discworld is Wyrd Sisters, even if it’s not the first Granny Weatherwax book. It feels like it’s the first one that’s really got its footing, and is a fun subversive parody of Macbeth amongst other things.
I definitely enjoyed watching the first two seasons, and will wait eagerly for the next. I’m sure it would be disturbing for someone with fundamentalist Christian views, but the story and humor were right up my alley.
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It’s comedy, mostly. Not horror at all.
And it’s more that an angel and demon who are friends (because they’ve spent so much time on Earth they felt they ended up having more in common with each other than their own side), and upon finding out about the approaching apocalypse, decide to try to avert it (without actually going against their own side) because they don’t want Earth to end, as regardless who wins The Final Battle, it will suck.
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I think it gets better, but it is a bit of a slow burn. It’s just a comedy that’s a satire on religion and systemic oppression, that uses an angel and a devil being friends to convey that.
I enjoyed it, but I wasn’t glued to the screen. I think it’s absolutey worth the watch, but it did take an episode or two to gain my interest.
The book is better. Good TV and good acting. But the book is so good.
Not really, tbh.
Watch Stardust if you want a good Gaiman film.
I don’t know but pirate it because Amazon
We are going to need a whole lot more than pitchforks…
We collect those from fallen enemies. We were taught in the US military that if you are facing an unarmed hostile force that outnumbers you 5:1, you need to retreat and withdraw, as your position will be overrun, and you just armed the hostile force.
Didn’t work out so well in tianamen square
does that in turn mean I can hold my own against 4 and a half men?
A few belt feds and a little arty goes a long way
But big daddy govt says we would never ever need an AR-15 or body armour, just the Police (and sometimes military) that patrol the same streets
Sometimes the only way something can be fixed is by dismantling it first.
You want just the right amount of dismantling to accomplish your goal. Too much, and we create extra unnecessary work for ourselves.
The “Turn it off and back on again” method, which has been in my house nicknamed the “Take out the trash and put it back in.” method
One thing y’all gotta understand: the strongest proponents of ‘the system’ who are not an active controller of that system do not belive there even IS a system.
Every fault, every tragedy, every bit of corruption? They hold it as the fault of an individual who failed only themselves. It’s why they took ‘bad apple’ and ‘bootstraps’ idioms and misinterpreted them as individual successes and failures, not systemic ones
Title says “Either way is time to sharpen your pitchforks” but depending on where you live the more obvious choice for the Top Picture would be political activism. If you were to live in like China or North Korea, then yeah, Pitchfork Time. If you live in Israel then Pitchfork Time was 3 years ago when you lost your chance to remove Netanyahu peacefully.
And neither can agree on what “the system” once it’s fixed/dismanted should be so the rest of us suffer while the world burns.
The real debacle is between the people who agree that in our nation with such vast resources and technology, everyone should get their basic needs met, and the people who want to live larger than others, and insist some people deserve to die in the streets for not being hard enough workers, or making mistakes, or whatever other bullshit irrational false narrative they come up with to revel in the suffering of others.
The saddest bit to me are all the non-wealthy at all Americans who will fight you to the death for the second one. They refuse to live without an economic class of people to look down on as they drink in the dopamine hit of schadenfreude, watching those suffering human beings, and declaring “good, that’s what you deserve for your bad decisions or something, suffer more!”
That’s why I agree with you that the world will burn, but why I don’t find it that sad in the US with our near univeral punch down attitude. We tell our most victimized citizens to fuck off and die on the sidewalk, we throw them away like the defective capital batteries our owners consider them, so unlike the increasingly rare societies that care for one another rather than worshipping capitalist economic growth/metastasis at all costs, we won’t get, nor do we deserve a future.
It amazes me you explain a problem so clearly and coherently, and some still don’t understand it. Hope you’re doing well.
I think it’s because us non-wealthy people would rather not have more taken from the remaining 50% of our income after taxes as more taxes to cover something we may not agree with thereby leaving us with even less to get by. Why should I go out and bust by ass every day just to pay for someone else’s lifestyle?
Hello, the problem.
Don’t worry, the peasant circular firing squad you love so much will remain intact.
The capitalists that indoctrinated you from childhood to believe its better to work against one another instead of being a society wouldn’t have it any other way. And they own the media, the government, and effectively you and I, so they’ll continue to get their way.
So you’ll keep getting what you want, because they trained you to want what’s against your own interests.
Yeah just ignore how you’re paying more for that shit anyways because a lot of it is actually societally necessary, it’s just that now you have profit seeking private companies handling the funding as opposed to the government which would provide it as a service, likely free at point of exchange.
Taxophobes will literally pay extra just for the bill to not say uncle sam was the one who charged it.
I get The Matrix vibe out of this
The systems not broken. It was built this way.
I even wrote a song about it !
I always feel bad for revolutionaries who never organized anything in the real world.
This is bullshit. It suggests that the system is intended by someone or some group and that getting ird of that group would get rid of the system. This is not the case. The system is so strong and prevalent precisely because it is not intended and reproduces itself.
It suggests that the system is intended by someone or some group and that getting ird of that group would get rid of the system.
No, it doesn’t… It literally says to dismantle the system itself. Idk how you got “attack a specific group of people and hope that works” out of that.
Idk how you got “attack a specific group of people and hope that works” out of that.
It’s because they’re just here to be inflammatory. No surprises there.
contemplating other possibilities is almost humourous when you consider the pervasiveness and magnitude of incompetence that is our collective baseline
The system is so strong and prevalent precisely because it is not intended
Oh really? I’ll just leave this here, then.
casually drops a 16 minute opinion piece by leftists
Yeah, it might be too short, but they make good points
No leftist makes good economic points because nothing they say is real.
Their points often sound good tho
Care to support your statement with evidence or reasoning?
Karl Marx’s Kapital is actually required reading for studying economics, because it is such a thorough analysis of capitalism. Implying leftists simply don’t understand economics is laughable.
Ahhh good old right wing projection.
Fuck off faschist. We don’t tolerate right wing morons here.
A) not right wing or fascist (note that it isn’t “faschist”)
B) You can find leftist havens at Hexbear and Lemmygrad, and to a slightly less insane extent at a few other lemmyverse sites.
As this place gets more popular, leftism will increasingly be fringe. Them’s the breaks. Communists are the minority in the world so it’s unreasonable to expect the internet to be different
A) You’re a right-winger. No, you don’t have to thank us for making you aware of something you should already have known.
B) The more popular online spaces become, the more leftist they become - that’s why your hero Phony Stark had to “intervene” with twitter. Sorry to be the one to break the news to you.
C) Them’s the breaks - if you don’t like it, you are free to leave and beg Phony Stark for a blue check mark.
Oh look… a fascist having a reactionary fit.
Ho hum.
If that was too short for you, here’s the book.
No need to thank me, right-winger- we like debunking your horseshit.
Please keep responding lol
I’m traveling for business today and you’re making my layover so much more enjoyable.
Oooh, how fancy.
Soooo, you are either working for parasites… or you are a parasite. Which one is it?
Whichever one gets you more aroused!
I can be whatever you want me to be 😌
Edit: except a commie lolz
except a commie lolz
We reserve compliments for those who deserve it, right-winger.
Man you’re gonna be pissed when you find out most of the things that are broken are broken because of just average people. Housing market, for instance, is fucked because people want their houses to be “nest eggs.”
Who you coming after with those pitchforks, specifically?
Housing market is broken because banks and enormous corporations treat housing as investment and commodity, and using enormous resources they have as a leverage to increase the price of housing to enormous levels. Retired middle class families buying second home have nothing to do with it and make no difference at all
This is up there with MAGAs blaming poor people for not wanting to work.
You…what?
The insanity level of the comment
If only people had government backed retiree funda so people didn’t need to worry about money when they’re old
If only people had government backed retiree funds
Social security? Hard part’s done. Let’s crank the value and means-test it. You don’t hear this much, for obvious reasons, but social security is totally solvent if means-tested. Same should apply with student loans.
But also, I’d argue people will always chase free money, so the best thing to do is disincentivize owning a home specifically because it’s an investment. This is very doable by simply changing zoning laws, and this change can be effected locally (but is very challenging because homeowners love their free money)
Ah yes, the horseshoe theory
It only has traction because it’s a gross oversimplification that appeals to those that seek simple answers to complex realities.
“The answer” isn’t somewhere in between white nationalism and Universal Basic Income, for example. Centrism is a ridiculous ideology. It’s honestly more of a lack of any coherent ideology at all.
The centrist ideology is “I’m above a consistent ideology - things are too complex, so I’ll smugly dismiss everyone as wrong while I stand for nothing, have no discernible values, and no solutions to anything.”
The alternative (and usual practical outcome), is that they’re just hiding strong right-wing tendencies behind the flimsiest of veneers. I’m looking at you, Tim Pool.
Horseshoe theory: a bunch of bullshit invented by ideologically deficient people to make themselves look good while lumping in leftist reform advocates with fascists.
Sorry to hear that you won’t admit that Stalin was trying to be in the same league as Hitler.
🙄
Please - make the case that Stalin was left wing.
I could use a chuckle, and i don’t think you’re capable of running the standard tankie script.
Do tell me more about this mythical horseshoe that can somehow align anarchism (a complete lack of a state) with fascism (an all-powerful state).
You see, it makes a lot more sense if you look at it as a 47-dimensional hypercube
Such a configuration would be useless as a metaphor for distant things ending up in the same place
47-dimensional hypercubes would essentially have all points touching at all times
lol, alright you win the argument
