If such a faulty experiment is the basis of our ethics it’s little wonder why the world has become such a cynical and nihilistic place.

Suggesting an alternative isn’t refusing to engage with the hypothetical, it’s engaging in the hypothetical in a way that someone who thinks they’re so smart for studying philosophy should really fucking know how to entertain.

And again, the whole question was devised to point out that both answers are horrifying, morally bankrupt, and a logical conclusion of a faulty school of ethics, so insisting the question is “basic ethical philosophy” is just damning the entire foundation even more.

You’re not making a case that I should feel embarrassed about a snafu in philosophical thinking, you’re making a case that the real trolley problem is whether I should have gone back and shot the philosophy majors you think were snickering behind my back before they could do any actual damage by indoctrinating someone with actual deciding power into their effective death cult school of ethics where never thinking twice about “someone dies anyways” outcomes is perfectly reasonable.

Your “foundational ethics question” is equally as ridiculous as asking if I’d cheat on my SO if it would cure their cancer and also they wouldn’t forgive me for it. That’s not how anything ever works and insisting there’s some deep meaning in it is a farce, and the author of the question itself intended for it to be a farce, and trying to defend it as anything but a farce just makes you a farce

Anything not bolted down, benches, trash cans, hell if it’s small enough you could try throwing stuff at it directly to tip it off the track

If reminding a bunch of people that trolleys are typically built in places with a lot of stuff that can be thrown on the track is all it takes to “beat” philosophy, then maybe the philosophers didn’t have anything to say worth listening to in the first place.

Especially when they’re trying to ask questions to determine a moral course of action, why does anyone have to die when some property damage would do the trick just as well?

That’s why the question was devised in the first place, to illustrate how ridiculous the two schools of thought represented by either decision were when taken to their logical conclusion.

The original correct answer was to do something more productive than just standing around with your thumb up your ass debating utilitarianism vs not taking a direct action to kill someone.

Trolleys aren’t trains

What’d be more productive would be enforcing a reformed model.

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So something I’ve always wondered is if it would be possible for a “stable” form of cancer to eventually metastasize an entire person, and then that person just becomes a walking living tumor but is entirely stable.

Nah, I’ve had some pretty bomb handjobs, that single one was where things went bad

I was talking about the philosophy problem itself not the FPTP vote. As you could probably guess from the context of me dunking on the philosophy majors so much.

Suggesting it’s easier to convince a Midwestern football coach/car dad to go vegan than an NYC germaphobe is a level of optimism I have never seen

I said throw shit onto the track to try and stop the trolley once.

The philosophy majors did not like me pointing out it was ridiculous to imagine the problem existing in a void with an absolute limit on possible courses of action.

They liked it even less when I reminded them that the problem was invented to make fun of them by a philosopher who was arguing that both courses of action were ridiculous conclusions to reach given the broader context of a trolley crash not existing in a vacuum.

Thought experiments in the void is how we got the declaration that feathers and lead weights were affected by different rates of gravity.

Kinda, I go overboard on tips, I cover night out bills for friends, I round up on receipts, biggest charitable act I participate in is helping my dad out with an org his church is a part of (normal “doing the good works” kind of church that doesn’t do weirdo evangelical shit), and recently supporting the org my GF works for because I like bein’ a cheerleader for the schtuff she gets excited about :3.

Date was fine enough, when the girl gave me a handy like she was trying to strip me with sandpaper, that’s where things went south.

God it’s like I can hear how white you are.

It literally is a statement that the interests of black and queer folks are contrary to the interests of “tHe WoRkInG cLaSs” to continue shitting on them without any expectation to be better because poor white people and straight people also participate in systemic oppression.

As for Bernie, people didn’t turn out to vote for him, and he lost because of it, end of story. There was a bias against him from the democratic establishment, but acting like that absolves his supporters of having the turnout energy of cosmic background radiation is deflection of the fucking first order, and suggesting that Trump happened as some kind of punishment of the DNC establishment for not throwing out their own damn vote tallies and just handing the guy who’s not even a party member the nomination because some quixotic white kids got especially loud about it just reeks of the kind of privilege that is exactly what I was suspecting earlier.

Like fuck man, you just spouted off ranting about your god given right to just give up and let everyone around you bite it like it’s an indication of anything but your own abject failure as a human being with an allegedly functioning sense of empathy.

You’re not smarter than everyone else because you want to blame everyone else for you not wanting to do anything to help, you’re just a wordier sort of dickwad.

Rot and die on your own time jackass.

Yes how mask off of me to point out the mask off rhetoric of Houthi stans.

That shared braincell spending an early weekend with the ex?

Hezbollah is the yellow one, Lebanese civilians are represented by the tree, UN is calling for help, and Israel is murdering the civilians to own Hezbollah.

Fucking psychopaths would see the Palestinian laborer crushed under the boot of theocracy purely because “they shoot at jews sometimes tho.”

Murdering civilians intentionally is inexcusable regardless of how many.

By your logic literally every genocide the US supported and engaged in would have been completely excused had they just struck the right KD ratio by throwing their death row inmates at the enemy first.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/middle-east-monitor/

Your source is shit and so are theirs.

Bending over backwards to support theocrats is not revolutionary praxis, it’s licking the boot that belongs to whoever you like more.

Murdering filipinos to upset the israelis. Yes, totally a naval blockade and not just unhinged terrorism.

It ain’t ghoulish to point out that theocrats aren’t part of liberation you fucking twat.

“Critical support to the spanish inquisition in their struggle against wester imperialism!”

That’s you, that’s what you’re trying to do whenever you try to act like the houthis deserve anything but to get shit on for what they’ve done to their own people, nevermind the civilians they’re murdering for happening to be in the region.