I thought the admins were using the server to grill cheese sandwiches and some of the melted cheese dripped onto the motherboard or something.
sorry everyone! I was trying to upload this image of a skull
fuck your serversShaun is one of the only good members left of the old Breadtube posse
Hbomb? Lindsay Ellis? Philosophy tube is pretty good still too yeah? I havent watched in a minute but I’m pretty sure she’s pro Palestine at least
Philosophy Tube really wants to break into Hollywood and it has shown.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitLiberalsSay/s/D4wwLK3t0I
She did a video that really pissed off Native Americans and also downplayed the Palestinian Genocide
Also objectively shitty actress
She’s been pretty open about it on KJB for years as far as I remember.
It has shown
She pretty much did. She plays a character in the Game of Thrones successor show.
I think she was in a star war recently too.
I haven’t watched Lindsay Ellis in years so maybe she’s a lot better now, (apparently she made a pretty good(?) video on Zionism recently), but she was very much one of the more liberal and not leftist examples of a breadtuber.
It’s ancient history, but here’s a pre-hexbear thread that has some relevance here because it’s her responding to Shaun: “Holy fuck, imagine being this libbed up.” At the time she was one of those “get out there and
for Biden to stop Trump at any cost!” libs.
For the record I really don’t follow youtuber drama, my brain just insists on storing old garbage that I heard about in passing instead of anything important or useful.
even older than that she had a pretty bad video about marxism in film with contrapoints guest appearance
her latest video is quite good though and shows her thought has evolved a fair bit… maybe even a comrade now? too soon to say for sure
Disappointing
Imagining an alternate reality where Ellis was based at the time and telling Shaun to step away from the lathe.
Hbomb is a liberal zionist. Like come on. Lindsay Ellis a lib (thats why she is “acceptable” to be quoted) and PhilosophyTube nearly went into the Contrapoints direction but she read the room and is now “what about the genociders feelingssss!!” type of “pro”-palestinian.
Noooo, he’s a fucking zionist? How did I not know this what the fuck
for what it’s worth, i don’t think it’s true. i tried looking into it and i don’t see anything that paints him as a zionist, just some claims about some of his fans being zionists, which is bound to happen given the sheer amount of people subscribing. not really seeing anything that points to a problem though…
Okay I thought I missed something, as far as I’ve ever heard he’s at least decent
philosophy tube is a straight up liberal zionist
for how people talked about it i thought “elevator gate” had to have been like Dawkins or some other creep being caught on tape groping someone in an elevator. not a woman simply explaining that propositions in elevators are creepy
the real elevatorgate was always the backlash to Watson’s very mild admonishment.
and blowback season 6 is out
I’m only 80 minutes into this but this is a devastating take down of Richard Dawkins, his collaborators, and their entire sphere of work.
This particular subject doesn’t matter to me that much, like I couldn’t care much less about some scum-of-the-earth dudes writing a book about why they think it’s bad that they’ve been rightfully scorned by the world.
However, as someone who watched a fair amount of Dawkins when I was at the age for that, I am eagerly anticipating that portion of the video.
I couldn’t care much less about some scum-of-the-earth dudes writing a book about why they think it’s bad that they’ve been rightfully scorned by the world.
I think the battle taking place here is shitbags claiming that they are “science” and that it is important to take down any notion that what they do is scientific or rational minded.
Yeah I agree, I think I’m feeling particularly disinterested because there’s a lot of damage science is actively taking right now, and so I am disinterested in hearing about these guys just whining when there’s active harm being done that far exceeds the scope of their complaints. It doesn’t mean it’s not important to undermine them, it just means… well, I don’t care so much, I suppose.
That is literally the first thing addressed in the video.
Does he give a reason to actually care about it that I missed? I thought he just kinda acknowledged it.
It presumes the audience already cares and the subsequent breakdown of how most of these figures have gone from supposed champions of science to either full on Christians or cranks that believe in their own weird non science does illustrate how this point was eventually reached and while im not all the way through does seem to be where all of this is going. What kind of reason to care would you give someone that doesnt already? The video itself strengthens the point anyway, these supposed scientists dont care either and/or have contributed to the degradation of science through their culture war obsession. I don’t know what you want here.
Eh, I mean… that’s all fine, I can see why that would make it important enough for people to care in general. It just doesn’t do it for me personally. I’m not even entirely disinterested though, I’m working my way through the video regardless.
Yeah Shaun specifically levels that criticism at them too.
That’s totally fair. I enjoyed it because it’s very satisfying to see Shaun dismantle each of their flimsy attempts at deflection and distortion and learn how intertwined all these figures are, but I wouldn’t say I came away from this video enlightened or anything. It just gives concrete evidence for what you could already figure out by looking at the cover of the book: these are a bunch of deeply unserious and bigoted people who only really care about advancing their own grifts, giving the air of scientific legitimacy to their bigotry, and whining about how they got “cancelled.” This video could be useful to mine for specific takedowns if you know someone who follows one of the (seemingly) more respectable people among them and want to try to guide that person away from this path, or if you habitually get into internet arguments and need ammunition to own someone. But beyond that, it’s mostly 4 hours of schadenfreude.
I respect the work ethic. But Its very hard for me to watch a 4h vid unless I got a project im working on (so I can run the vid in the back while working). Plus it better be a real good vid (which to be fair is a good chance with Shaun)
This one is worth it if you want a takedown of Richard Dawkins and his work since he moved on from his new atheist movement, as well as the people around him.
It’s also a takedown of Shaun’s own teenage self who he admits previously really liked Dawkins.
He’s just going to read the whole book line by line and tell me why each line is wrong
I think reading it would take less patience
He actually goes into the background of dozens of different people who are collectively destroying science and also most of whom are tied to epstein, it’s mostly a teardown of the people in the book rather than the rags they wrote for this book
