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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/50351339
The ‘yankification’ of British politics continues with Turning Point drawing attention to whatever the hell these people are supposed to be
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What a cancerous organization… crazy that it is going global.
It’s very interesting how quickly narratives can be built. I’ve been exposed to TPUSA talking points for a full decade now and it’s completely obvious Charlie Kirk was not seeking any kind of truth sincerely.
That is the difference between rhetoric and philosophy. He only wanted to win.
Now we all just have to pretend like Kirk wasn’t peddling ideologies that dearly want to silence those who disagree with them. Free speech evangelist my ass.
Being pro free speech has nothing to do with willingness to change your opinion. Rhetoric and philosophy are both contained within the free speech bubble. Also there are no ideologies that are free from the potential of stifling others free speech, which is why it needs to be vigorously protected by everyone, all the time.
He was pro-free-speech in the same way as a rapist is pro-free-sex.
Religion is a cancer on society
Ahah! The mask comes off!
Yeah I swear every time religion appears innocuous it’s actually just incubating its next wave of evil. At some point people need to say enough is enough. No more being tolerant of religion or polite about it. They should be treated with the same two-faced smiling disgust they treat us with.
Hey now. No. We should love them.
The same way they love us. I’ll get the pliers.
It combines the normalization of magical thinking with the belief in an absolute moral authority. So you get people that aren’t concerned with provable reality and are sure they’re doing the right thing.
You know, if this was a Muslim group, this would be front page news and a moral panic, and there would be debates on if we should ban this group.
UK moment. If this was a Muslim group, they would have been hauled off for “terrorism” well before the story hit the press.
Didn’t TPUK push Hitler did nothing wrong? Yaaaaaa. I remember Klandyce making that comment with Charlie on stage with her.
Call 1-800-LUFT-WAFFE…this time, we are the good guys. The sad part, I could see the fucking losers gaining ground with the MAGAts.
May they all follow in Charlie’s footsteps.
British Black Shirts? … are they just repeating history and patterns at this point?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists
Ah, you made the dog whistle connection. That wasn’t supposed to happen, you weren’t supposed to notice that, it was only for them.
it’s almost like they’re trying to make a bad impression
When I hear about maga stuff in canada and australia and now uk. wow. just wow.
The tentacles trace to Moscow
Can they just skip to the step where they start eating each other and leave the rest of us alone?
Nope. You’re gonna have to kill em.
Calling for violence based on a lie…
that’s because of the organizing led by TPAction, which is the fascist political arm of Turning Point USA, which itself can’t be political since it is a non-profit. this is somehow legal in our current system lol. you can just branch off an affiliate org and retain control and that can be political because it’s different! it’s separate! TPUSA is going to spread wherever it is allowed because they are navigating on the fine line of legality and they exploit that shit.
Do you have a source on that? I’d like to be proven wrong
a source on what, exactly? not being flippant, i assure you. TPAction is a registered organization with TPUSA, and the way our laws work forces TPUSA to remain “non-political,” so in order to maintain the image of being non-political they spun off a political arm named Turning Point Action. you can look it up, basically. it’s the only way TPUSA can act politically, so any time you are seeing TPUSA organize and move it’s through their “TPAction” group. does that make sense?
What has this got to do with King’s Army?
…? if King’s Army is being supported by TPUSA then it’s through TurningPoint Action.
That claim is what I’m asking for sources on. What source do you have that says they are being supported by TPUSA? King’s Army’s website says they are non political.
….what the hell are you talking about lol. hello, this thread is your source? the post you’re responding to? the post that says TPUSA has a branch in the UK that supports King’s Army? i don’t understand what the hell is being questioned lol.
are you talking about financial funding? i don’t know if TPUSA is funneling money to King’s Army, but that wouldn’t surprise me. TPUSA is supporting them regardless of it being financial or political.
why is it relevant? Hitler supported animal rights, yet I’m not out here calling vegan activists nazis (even the radical ones)
Their website says they’re non-political, and their actions are organising street protests about “morality” in London’s main gay district.
A generous interpretation would be that you’re naive.
That wasn’t politically motivated, though. Nor were they advocating political change. It was likely an attempt at exorcism/evangelism
The grift must feed.
King Charles: lick my boots, you peasants
These guys ‘thats our favorite thing to do!’
Looks like a militant terrorist organisation to me, should be arresting them
It looks like that but they seem to be basically just modern Salvation Army copycats, especially from looking at their website
I think we’re better focusing on reform UK and the racist marches than a bunch of hyperactive holiness Christians
Turning Point is a youth propaganda machine fuelled by pseudoreligious arseholes. These people demonstrably only care about themselves and how much money they can make. It’s spread to the UK is deeply concerning.
I cannot find evidence that this group has anything to do with turning point except for being featured on their Twitter once.
When you start looking at the “leadership” they are all either non-existent online or tied to a number of dodgy evangelical churches, there’s no obvious detail of who is funding any of them, it looks like Noone has previously researched it in detail. But the few tied to that McNamara guy looks like authoritarian nutjob dog whistles.
Having a look into them now. It’s interesting how one of the images shows the Ulster Banner for Northern Ireland despite it being part of the UK and NcNamara being from Northern Ireland and having a Union Jack.
Interestingly on his Instagram, there is a post promoting a Roman Catholic Church which is uncommon for Northern Irish protestants to do.
He does follow TPUK and that’s it and kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel.
I will say though, groups like TPUK could potentially be trying to groom groups like these. Although they have a commitment on their website to be apolitical so I don’t think it’s much
You cannot find other people online simply because this seems like a small group. Possibly a bit of larp in there, but I think the Canary is literally just building them up to seem like murderous extremists for clicks/fearmongering. I don’t find the canary to be a reliable news source anyway.
They don’t support Palestine so it’s ok. Duh.
It’s only a militant terrorist organization if it contains leftists or minorities, otherwise it’s just sparkling free speech /s
or grannies
They have minorities and grannies… Look at the picture…
In context of the times, Jesus was very left. Surprised they didn’t kill the guy.
But they uh… ah…
Shh, no spoilers. He obviously hasn’t gotten to that part yet.
he skipped the middle
Not for nothing but they don’t have free speech in Europe
You’ve been listening to American propaganda again. “Free speech” isn’t an absolute binary in any country in the world, including the US.
I didn’t say anything about America, I’m just pointing out that Europe absolutely and demonstrably does not have free speech protections.
What? No they’re right wing, so those weapons and drills and marching are festive.
