Young men are more left leaning than any generation befire them.
What will these goose stepping idiots do if the USA invades Venezuela or Iran? Are they going to march with the MAGA patriotism or chicken out? I would say over 75% will claim bone spurs. Bunch of losers.
I’m 33, but man, am I glad I found forums with open minded people…to be a hateful bigot in today’s age…just doesn’t make sense to me.
It’s partly because forums aren’t really a thing these days. People tend to spend their time on places like Instagram, twitter, YouTube, etc. All algorithmically feeding them content. And that algorithm isn’t what’s best or most liked, but what is the most engaged with. So anything “controversial”. Which, in the real world, equates to right-wing content.
Seriously, say you go on YouTube and you want to watch a video about a film. Say you liked the most recent Ghostbusters and think it’s underrated. You find a video called something like “Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire is actually better than you think”. It’s 30 minutes long, which is about the length of time you want to kill. You start watching and you’re agreeing with it. Then it gets to the 20 minute mark and suddenly the video is talking about the woman-led reboot and how bad it is in comparison. The word “woke” starts getting thrown around. Its lack of quality is blamed on women as a whole being incapable of being funny.
Suddenly you realise that the maker of the video is a misogynist and you stop watching.
But you’ve already watched 20 minutes. YouTube now thinks you like content of the kind produced by that channel. So you’ll see a lot more of that kind of thing, because it makes people angry. Either angry because they agree with the author about how wokeness is destroying everything, or angry because they think he’s a misogynist. But either way, they’re upvoting/downvoting and leaving comments.
Now, you’re not interested in that kind of material, but perhaps there’s a video that you wouldn’t have been recommended before which isn’t as extreme, but just has a couple of things you disagree with. Perhaps it’s masked with irony and edgy humour. Watch enough of this new kind of content and you might find yourself being a little more sympathetic to the parts that you would previously have disagreed with.
This is particularly true if you’re someone who doesn’t see themselves as being in a good situation. If you haven’t got a job, then it’s much more palatable to be told that it’s because of those foreigners coming here on small boats than it is that you’re not particularly employable, or there just aren’t very many jobs right now because we’re in an economic downturn, or that the entire system is rigged to take money from the poor and give it to the rich and that you’re on the wrong side of that equation. Those things are emotionally uncomfortable and complex as ideas. The thought “it’s all because of them” feels good, because anger feels good, and it’s simple. Just get rid of “them” and all will be wonderful again.
Same with women. Do you need to work on yourself? Do you need to actually make a conscious effort to examine your attitudes and the attitudes ingrained in society and think before you make an off-hand remark to a woman? Do you need to change your attitude and start thinking of women as complex people with inner lives who don’t owe you anything even if you really, really think they’re very pretty and they smell nice and are a bit gothy and have big tits and even if you’re always polite to them and hold the door open for them and once gave them half of your chocolate bar and she accepted and smiled at you? No! It’s the femoids’ fault for only wanting Chad and Tyrone! Come join US! WE understand you! We’re not going to tell you that you need to take any responsibility for anything! We’ll tell you that you ARE owed sex and that she’s a bitch for witholding it by putting you in the friendzone! It’s not YOU! It’s THEM! It’s all THEIR fault!
There’s a lot of people in bad situations. There’s a lot of people feeling neglected and lost and helpless and hopeless and emotionally disconnected. And the message that the answer is simple and it’s all the fault of [group X] and that if you could just put [group X] in their place then you’d get everything you ever wanted, is a very, very seductive one. “It’s complicated, and will require effort, and even then things may not get much better” is a much less appealing pitch.
Combine those things with engagement-pushing algorithms which favour right-wing content - alongside far-right groups actively trying to recruit people with irony and a “boil the frog” approach, and some platforms (twitter, I’m looking in your direction) actively trying to push a far-right narrative - and it’s not really a surprise that some people, men in particular, are moving to the right.
Where are forums not a thing? I’m active on several independent forums whenever I have the time. So are many, many other people, some of which I know IRL.
They’re hard if not impossible to discover these days, also most people will join and stay on social platforms where everyone they know are. For example, all my friends use Discord so it’d be social suicide to leave the platform because i’m cutting off my connection to my friends.
if people imbibe in xitter, rogean podcast, j peterson, shapiro, or even the tate brothers they are more than likely already deep in right wing mindset, all 4 are knowingly backed by russian propaganda/funded.
I think there are plenty of dudes that listen to Rogan that don’t understand they’re listening to right wing shit.
In any age, it didn’t make sense. We are strong, united. The elite seek to divide us because it makes us weaker and easier to control. Nobody is born a bigot.
Alone we are weak, like a single twig. But together…
Ape together strong
My teen observed …… guys are more likely to appreciate edgy, crude or offensive humor. Guys are more likely to be entertained by those assholes, even if they don’t agree with their message
I guess good for us left leaning men?
On the other hand kinda sad, it further drives the fertility-rate downwards (see south-korea, which has a bad future because of this…)
The feminist movement freed the women to have more choices but the men were displaced with fewer options than before. It’s not a loss of privilege but the closing off of options to be feminine or domestic stay at home partners.
The comments here on this Lemmy post can serve as a perfect demonstration for the reason behind men turning right-wing. Any comment trying to point out some specific aspect of life where men are experiencing more hardships is immediately shut off and getting told these experiences and concerns are invalid.
There is a limit to how much “fuck you” one can hear before going “well, fuck you too”.
This is how the entwives ended up getting lost.
And they will never be found because they don’t call themselves “entwives”
Wtf is an entwife
That talking tree in lord of the Rings was named Treebeard. He spoke about how the time of the ents was ending because the entwives had left and could not be found.
They are Joe boys and UFC fans. The RNC literally lasso’d these low hanging fruit that get their news in 10 second videos… As soon as their parents kick them out and they have to work and pay rent, they quickly run from the dark side. It’s easy to sway INCELS. The DNC simply chooses not to and it’s a bad game plan. Most of them were Bernie Bros until they, gasp, gave the nomination to Hillary. I have two that have done the circle of life with this exact scenario.
Bernie Bros Voted for Trump Voted For Biden Voted for Trump kicked them both out and all they even do now is bleat about how Trump hasn’t done a GD thing to help them. No shit.
Here’s the FT article the graphic is from
https://www.ft.com/content/29fd9b5c-2f35-41bf-9d4c-994db4e12998
Things are looking up for this 59 year old left winger.
For those who need it on here and actually want to address the biggest problems they are facing I’ll leave this here: https://www.choosingtherapy.com/15-best-books-on-self-love/
The charts in the article don’t even support this claim, at least in the USA and Britain. I mean look at them.
turning right wing means the direction of the arrow points towards “conservative”. Also, if the men’s line goes downward, that means more and more men are conservative, as the line is the average.
Except in 2 of the 4 graphs, young men are still more liberal-leaning and in Germany it’s only barely conservative leaning. What they all have in common however is young women becoming extremely liberal-leaning. The headline in other words is misleading.
but they are still “turning rightwing”, because they are becoming more and more conservative.
But it’s true, to be complete, the headline should mention that women are turning leftwing too. The problem remains the same though, with men wanting traditional women, and women wanting progressive men.
It’s going to be interesting.
Please. If you actually bothered there’s tons of data to validate this trend. It’s been known for years now, this isn’t exactly news.
I have had my share of struggles and hardship, definitely not the worst anyone’s had it, but enough to empathize I think. I lived in a camper for 5 years, was lucky to have that tbh. Shit jobs, shit pay, no respect. I live in the boonies so I work with all these guys. I’m a white straight guy too, so I pass, and I get to sit with them while they share their terrible opinions.
I guess what I mean to say is that somehow the exact experiences that are turning these man children into hateful far right weirdos have happened to me. Somehow I went hard to the left instead. I wasn’t a “radical” before I moved out here, it’s a response to the last 10 years mostly. Was it because I was raised differently? Probably, my mother is one of the most compassionate people I’ve known, and selfishness was ‘punished’ when I was young. Was it the psychedelics? Also probably. There are lots of other experiences that I know most of these guys haven’t had that helped me be a better person, travel, volunteer work I had to do, I’m sure I am forgetting a lot. But what helps me understand also makes it more difficult to excuse. A lot of these guys have had every opportunity I have, some a lot more. It’s difficult to listen to somebody that has had a chance at promotion complain about their pay, for an analogy that comes from reality. When I also know so many other groups of people are flat denied that opportunity. They don’t have solidarity because they are selfish. I think that’s what it boils down to.
Terminate Stoned Sunday ramble/
The population will collapse.
