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Since when does Facebook have a distro?
That’s Fedora
Since when did they change the logo from a fedora to… this bullshit?
i always think that when i see it too. I hate that the logos are so similar
hehe, would be real nicebwith a command for completely reset and reinitialising wifi and bluetooth adapter 😅 Fedora ❤️
How does this happen? Do not most major desktop Linux distros more or less run almost the same kernel with the same driver modules? (Except in the case of Debian being several years behind the rest).
TLDR, computer SAYS NO!
Each distro has its own flavor, and sometimes that flavor leads to things not going the way the user or even maintainer of said desktop applications intended.
But at the end of the day, there’s only one program in control of all the hardware. They’re all getting the kernel from the same place, the distros aren’t writing their own kernels except for a few tweaks here and there.
The tweaks can make a huge difference on more obscure hardware
But at the end of the day, there’s only one program in control of all the hardware.
Is there though? There’s a surprising amount of layers hidden away particularly in the UI. If any one of those layers fucks up then wifi no workie. There’s also like 700 programs that all do the same thing, but not all of them work. Very fun to find out that they changed X in an update and now all the automations you had set up need updating.
Mostly but some base distros change the kernel config and other make changes to the code for some reason.
Fedora has a policy of not shipping with non-free/proprietary packages. So depending on what wifi adaptor you have the driver might not be present by default. It’s easily fixed by enabling non-free/third party repos after installation, but the annoying gotcha with wifi drivers is you might not have an alternative way to reach the internet to do that.
If I put my Mint computer to sleep, the wifi adapter stops working completely. 🤡
First thing to do on most linux distros, but especially mint, is turn off everything sleep-related forever.
Ha! It’s the one issue that’s been giving me the biggest headache through multiple distros. To be fair I believe most of my problems originate from Nvidia hardware and software.
I’ve literally never had a problem with this…that I know about.
What are you all turning off?
I feel like no OS can get sleep to work properly lol
Sadly, MacOS is leading the pack with sleep working as expected. This is the most cursed timeline.
And in true macOS fashion it only works if you stay within the Apple ecosystem.
Applications and sleep are intimately tied to native macOS workspaces, which are themselves cursed af.
If you use an alternative manager, like Aerospace (which reimplemented workspace/tiling), then applications cannot sleep properly, leading to severe battery drain.
If I had to guess it’s because Apple controls both hard- and software. Sleep is a delicate business where both the OS and the hardware have to work together to get it right. Linux and Windows run on an endless combination of different hardware components whereas Apple knows exactly on what hardware their OS will run.
My openSUSE works without issues on my ThinkPad, including sleep. Back when I used EndeavourOS on a 2015 MacBook Pro putting it to sleep caused various problems (don’t really remember what).
Feren OS on a ThinkPad L390 sleeps and wakes perfectly. Probably because of thinkpad
my desktop with arch (btw) also sleeps and wakes without issues
Same with my Arch install btw, suspend works fine. 🤷♂️
SteamOS gets it mostly right
God yes, it was fucking with my partners graphics drivers, and killed most games I have running.
Wrong target, the graphics drivers are.
I’ve been having this exact same problem. I don’t have a fix, but hey, comradery.
It’s annoying, but it isn’t feeding my data into the AIs.
All good on the wifi front here on Asahi Fedora Linux on Mac mini M1. 😁
What really annoyed me is, that for some goddamn reason fedora renamed or removed the dnf command to add repository’s and now each time I want to add a repository I have to write the config file by hand.
This was my exact experience with Manjaro.
Been using Fedora on several laptops and desktops, and haven’t had issues with wifi. Or with anything else for that matter. For me, everything in Fedora just works and never breaks.
The first bug I’ve seen was recently. Apparently an update broke the ‘shutdown and update’ function in Fedora Workstation. So now when you press it, nothing happens. Then when you try shutting down, the PC will shut down without updating. It’ll update and shutdown upon next boot. Can confirm Fedora KDE is unaffected though.
I remember this sort of stuff a long time ago. There were wifi drivers that were either linux, but closed source, or horror of horrors having to resort to ndiswrapper…
Of course, the Ubuntu derivatives made this easy enough by just including it, but Fedora was much more purist about open source and so wouldn’t even tell you about rpm-fusion, let alone enable proprietary drivers for basic network access.
Now Fedora has edged a bit more practical and proactively let’s users know about how to add proprietary stuff and the wifi industry takes Linux seriously, if not for desktop use then for all the embedded use cases they would be left out of without good Linux support. Fedora is still a bit far on the ‘purist’ side still (try to play a lot of media using dnf provided software, it will tend to break), but not as hard as it used to be)
And Kinonite by extension. I updated and restarted because I like fresh kernels.
Don’t judge me, it’s my kink OK. In my sad, pathetic little white bread life in the middle of nowhere.
For me, everything in Fedora just works and never breaks.
Apparently an update broke the ‘shutdown and update’ function in Fedora Workstation.
Hmmmmmmm
This juxtaposition.
as a debian user, i can confirm :)
unrelated, but what on green earth happened in the inbox?
OP is the femboy in the picture
They’ll never see your question
Leaving aside Arch and Nix for the moment… imagine rating Ubuntu over Mint. The depravity of the human mind know no limits.
I know, I’m a huge fan of Mint, but only the Debian edition as Canonical keeps going in a direction I will not follow happily. It isn’t just that snap sucks in my opinion, its that they decided to replace apt-installed packages with snaps and it feels like a slippery slope that could lead to issues.
I’ve had Fedora on a Thinkpad X300, Thinkpad T420 (what I’m typing on right now), and Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402RK. The last has a Mediatek MT7922, unlike the prior 2 with Intel wireless – and they all have worked flawlessly.
Tried Fedora KDE just recently, and apparently the latest version broke something and you just get a black screen on some laptops, fresh install and all. Found some random ISO someone posted and that one worked, but kinda crazy it’s been over a month that this is known to not work and the official ISO is still borked
The fix is to use a grubby command to disable rhgb at boot. You can find the fix in the fedora discussion website.
I don’t know if it’s been officially fixed yet, but I’m holding the update for a laptop until it’s fixed.
I use mint, btw
This but having a 5G modem.
I went through over a dozen distros before sighing and accepting Kubuntu.
You need kernel support
Distros probably won’t change that unless they are doing something goofy with the kernel (screams at Ubuntu)
Fedora gnome was the definition of perfect. It was so stable that it was boring. The KDE one on the other hand…… Let’s say it has never worked for more than a day for me.
Don’t you put that evil on KDE, Ricky Bobby!!
If KDE was a woman… I’d take her out for a 3 course meal, split the bill bc she don’t need no man to take care of her (or her baby), drive her home using the scenic route, walk with her from the car to her front door, then ask for consent before giving her a goodnight kiss
Back when I last tried LM gnome, it would fail to get to the log-in screen every couple weeks. So far haven’t had any major issues with bazzite kde.
I tried basically every distro on my laptop and fedora worked all hardware 100% out of the box + printer + fingerprint reader + all day battery life
Fedora gnome is so good it makes Linux boring
Fedora gnome is so good it makes Linux boring
Is this a workflow thing? I was looking at Fedora last week and I’m interested to hear what you like about it.
I’m on Cinnamon and made everything look like OSX, but it seemed like gnome would have a learning curve. And as much as KDE looks like Windows NT, something a touch more modern does seem nice.
Lol KDE looks like windows NT? Uh… No.
Wobbly windows is best thing ever by the way.
KDE looks like whatever you want.
Well, I’ve only seen KDE on TW, so maybe it was just the default theme color scheme that gave me NT flashbacks. Though I did actually mean that as a compliment. Maybe I also don’t remember NT well enough.
Gnome extensions can look pretty much exactly like kde or better depending on your taste, kde is easier to customize and more intuitive. I like that gnome is extension based with each extension being something you pick, many having their own customization and settings.
Some extensions I like: Arcmenu: start menu like windows, kde, etc. lots of layout options, replaces the hot corner big icon search menu thing
Dash to dock: use on handheld, perfect touchscreen menu customizable or (use one at a time) Dash to panel: use on desktop, even more customizable, basically gives you a panel since gnome by default has the hot corner android like app menu (which I also use mostly on the handheld, love the hot corner for moving stuff around)
Windows thumbnails (pip any window, monitor downloads or chats)
I use a lot more but forget the names, nothing really breaks if you toggle use incompatible addons or whatever it’s called. You can also edit the addon and change the version since that is what the devs do 90% of the time to update it.
I really like the top bar, hot corner, workplace swapping on mouse scroll, control center, etc. Kde is a close second for me, and I may be swapping back soon just because I get bored using the same thing. Prob not if you can’t backup your layout, really like what my gnome desktop looks like and its functional/productive.
Tophat is great for quick resource monitoring. Ddterm for a dropdown terminal. Campeek to quickly check webcam. A timer for self timing some online work I do that is self reported. It’s just perfectly setup and not crowded at all while having so much. I do miss the pop out tab sticky notes on kde.
Linux being boring is a good thing. I want my OS to be boring. I use Mint, BTW
I wish my fingerprint scanner worked D:
Honestly, the only two problems I have had at all are fingerprint scanner (like, lowest priority for me), and the battery continues to drain quickly even when I close the laptop or put it in sleep mode or whatever it’s called
Ah I’m sorry to hear that all I can suggest is trying to look up what your specific hardware is and see if there are any solutions on archwiki or something
I did make sure to get a thinkpad because I heard they have excellent Linux support so it is possible your hardware just doesn’t have a proper solution yet 🤷♀️
But I am not a coder so I don’t really know how to do anything but google and try
Unless there is an update and you have to wait for a couple of months to get all the extensions back
And then you just go to extensions.gnome.org and tell to run the extensions anyway by ignoring the GNOME version
Don’t have much experience but I run extensions designed for 45 on 49 without any problem
Unfortunately for me GNOME without extensions it’s unusable and I don’t have the patience to stay 3-4 versions behind to ensure compatibility
Edit: I wrote the wrong URL, it was .org and not .com
I didn’t know that. I’ll check it our asap, thx!!!
