She’s a conservative. Conservatives were responsible for slavery and they are tired of being called out for it.
OK but Lincoln was republican and he ended slavery. I’m all for calling out right wing nutjobs on their shit but attributing all evils ever to them is some serious echo chamber bubble shit
Lincoln was a Republican before the parties switched. It’s well-documented how voting trends from the Civil War through to the Civil Rights Act flipped (hint, it’s to do with racism and the North/South divide)
I was simply pointing out how lost the nuance of party lines is to that other guy. Everything has shifted, divides have grown, both parties are so right leaning there’s no real left leaning representation left. Yet I only see both sides doubling down on their echo chambers. I went through this shit (and fell for it hard) on reddit, I don’t want a repeat here.
I’m glad that you can admit Lincoln was a progressive who was in direct opposition to the conservatives of the time. You know the parties switched political orientations during the 1930’s-1960’s, don’t you?
There’s a reason modern Republicans love statues of the rebels and their precious confederate flags. You remember the confederates, right? They were the conservative slave-holders who fought AGAINST Lincoln and his progressive agenda of human rights.
Every word uttered by a conservative is either deception or manipulation. A conservative is simply not capable of entering any conversation in good faith.
You’re glad I admit what now? Lmao I know your country is literally burning in division of catastrophic proportions but no need to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is on the other side of the political spectrum.
Indeed conservatives shifted further right, and democrats also shifted right to the point that they don’t represent the actual left leaning portion of the US, but by your tone on the matter, I wasn’t sure you were aware of this shift. Are you also aware that the division between parties has been growing at alarming rates in recent years, whereas before you didn’t have such ridiculous takes from either side? Every news channel and social media platform just keeps radicalizing and dividing and villanizing to the point where you actually come to believe the other side is the literal boogeyman that wants to burn the world down.
Reality is just a bit more nuanced than that. In the end, both sides will fuck you over because money, because the economy, because capitalism in general. Let’s not pretend things would be different if everything was under the democrats’ control. Sure, it can get Trump worse or DeSantis worse, but there’s no “better” on the other side, just status quo and wall street money. The real truth is the political system in the US, and a lot of other countries, has been hijacked by money and corruption for a while now, and everyone is just cannon fodder to keep the money going and the power flowing.
Keep waging your war, just be mindful of spewing utter nonsense that just divides and radicalizes for the sake of dividing and radicalizing (such as that last paragraph). There are villains out there, and the GOO is absolutely rotten to the core, but we have to be mindful of just spewing utter hate like they do in their own bubbles, and we do have to remember that power corrupts no matter the side, take it from someone whose country got thrown under the bus by the Obama administration for the sake of “fighting communism”, and Obama’s been my favorite US president from recent years (Carter takes the crown, though). I don’t know what the solution is to such ridiculous division in the US, but I’d wager it’s not more hate and division.
But by skimming a few lines here and there, I can see that you never addressed any of your false statements. Instead, you seemed to blather on about political divides or some nonsense. Going on an unrelated tirade is a typical defense tactic used by conservatives attempting to obfuscate their deception when called out. They are still the ramblings of someone who thinks Lincoln was the leader of the conservatives of his time! 🤣LOL 😅
Nothing in your panicked, defensive comment suggests that you are capable of entering a dialogue in good faith. So, run along back to Truth Social or NAMBLA or wherever your kind linger these days and tell them all how cool you are for trolling the libs. You sure got us! Good one!
Youre a major dick if you can’t be assed to read someone’s comment. It is not cool, and very telling of child like behavior, I see it being all too common. It does not matter what the subject of his comment says, be a respectful person and do what they have done for you, humored you and read your comment.
What false statements? And if you’re not gonna read for shit then you might as well just keep screaming like an utter idiot, you fucking dumbass.
Edit: No, actually Jesus fucking Christ you pissed me off. You’re either a troll or a fucking buffoon for assuming I’m a right winger. Get your head out of your ass, you fucking shill.
What the fuck is NAMBLA, you know so much about right wing bubbles, you kinda sound like a troll account used only for screenshots to show how “unhinged” the left is. Either that or you’re actually unhinged. Stop speaking for us on the left, please.
Honestly, I feel like something fucky is going on. Dude’s definitely acting unhinged and not trying to engage in actual discussion. You’ve been fairly level-headed but are being showered in downvotes? Very weird.
Honestly I did lose my cool for a moment there, as is evident by my sudden spam of insults lol… Not fun being on the receiving end of…whatever the hell that was.
But yeah, I don’t understand wtf is up with this comment chain or maybe even the news community as a whole. Feels exceedingly toxic compared to other communities, even the notoriously toxic ones. Hell, for a moment I considered maybe I was being downvoted with bots or brigaded…?
Nothing in your panicked, defensive comment suggests that you are capable of entering a dialogue in good faith.
This is LITERALLY PROJECTION. You ignored my entire post and proceeded to argue in bad faith and ignore the very clear statements, along with my entire post history, showing I’m not a fucking right winger. You Americans are so fucking dumb you cannot bother to do some critical thinking for once.
Shit like this is why the rest of the world just laughs while you guys burn yourselves to the ground.
Is this how we are fighting this war now? Claiming stupid shit like “you didn’t address all your lies” when I stated one single literal fact? How old are you kid? Not old enough to read a fucking paragraph?
I’m old enough to remember you resorting to hateful name-calling before editing your last comment.
I’m a retiree who loves calling out conservatives on their bullshit. I’ve lived a long life watching conservatives belittle and bully everyone around them. From a lifetime of observation, I can conclude there is no such thing as a “good conservative”. Never has been.
I love how you keep assuming I’m a conservative. Years of your country pushing capitalism down everyone’s throats is more than enough to radicalize anyone into hating conservatives and your fucking capitalistic, imperialistic tendencies as a country.
I mean that marks a stark point of acceleration for sure, but the division has been going on for a lot longer. All my US relatives have been glued to fox news for at least the past decade. My mom goes to visit them (we are from Honduras)and comes back spouting absolute nonsense, when I ask her why, the tv is always on with fox news, it’s all they watch.
Before they all left Honduras in the 80s and 90s, they were left leaning, all of them. Now they aren’t only right leaning, but radicalized and sound insane when talking. This “against the right” or whatever dude sounds actually just like them, but from the left. I don’t feel comfortable sitting here feeling like the same that’s happened to them is happening to us. Well, “us” considering I’m not from the US…
You guys end up eating shit up from all the wrong places, forgetting what’s happened throughout American history, both within the country and outside of it. I received US history education in my country with higher priority than my own country’s history thanks to you self righteous fucks, the least you could do is listen when someone tells you you’re charging head first into civil conflict and that throwing shit at each other ain’t helping.
Are you talking about Mr “everyone who doesn’t agree with me is literally evil”, or about me? If it’s about me, I’m kinda flattered since it would be my first time getting called a Russian troll lol.
OK but Lincoln was republican and he ended slavery. I’m all for calling out right wing nutjobs on their shit but attributing all evils ever to them is some serious echo chamber bubble shit
Lincoln was a Republican before the parties switched. It’s well-documented how voting trends from the Civil War through to the Civil Rights Act flipped (hint, it’s to do with racism and the North/South divide)
This is a brief overview. Obviously not an exhaustive history but covers the basics. https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties
I was simply pointing out how lost the nuance of party lines is to that other guy. Everything has shifted, divides have grown, both parties are so right leaning there’s no real left leaning representation left. Yet I only see both sides doubling down on their echo chambers. I went through this shit (and fell for it hard) on reddit, I don’t want a repeat here.
I’m glad that you can admit Lincoln was a progressive who was in direct opposition to the conservatives of the time. You know the parties switched political orientations during the 1930’s-1960’s, don’t you?
There’s a reason modern Republicans love statues of the rebels and their precious confederate flags. You remember the confederates, right? They were the conservative slave-holders who fought AGAINST Lincoln and his progressive agenda of human rights.
Every word uttered by a conservative is either deception or manipulation. A conservative is simply not capable of entering any conversation in good faith.
You’re glad I admit what now? Lmao I know your country is literally burning in division of catastrophic proportions but no need to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is on the other side of the political spectrum.
Indeed conservatives shifted further right, and democrats also shifted right to the point that they don’t represent the actual left leaning portion of the US, but by your tone on the matter, I wasn’t sure you were aware of this shift. Are you also aware that the division between parties has been growing at alarming rates in recent years, whereas before you didn’t have such ridiculous takes from either side? Every news channel and social media platform just keeps radicalizing and dividing and villanizing to the point where you actually come to believe the other side is the literal boogeyman that wants to burn the world down.
Reality is just a bit more nuanced than that. In the end, both sides will fuck you over because money, because the economy, because capitalism in general. Let’s not pretend things would be different if everything was under the democrats’ control. Sure, it can get Trump worse or DeSantis worse, but there’s no “better” on the other side, just status quo and wall street money. The real truth is the political system in the US, and a lot of other countries, has been hijacked by money and corruption for a while now, and everyone is just cannon fodder to keep the money going and the power flowing.
Keep waging your war, just be mindful of spewing utter nonsense that just divides and radicalizes for the sake of dividing and radicalizing (such as that last paragraph). There are villains out there, and the GOO is absolutely rotten to the core, but we have to be mindful of just spewing utter hate like they do in their own bubbles, and we do have to remember that power corrupts no matter the side, take it from someone whose country got thrown under the bus by the Obama administration for the sake of “fighting communism”, and Obama’s been my favorite US president from recent years (Carter takes the crown, though). I don’t know what the solution is to such ridiculous division in the US, but I’d wager it’s not more hate and division.
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But by skimming a few lines here and there, I can see that you never addressed any of your false statements. Instead, you seemed to blather on about political divides or some nonsense. Going on an unrelated tirade is a typical defense tactic used by conservatives attempting to obfuscate their deception when called out. They are still the ramblings of someone who thinks Lincoln was the leader of the conservatives of his time! 🤣LOL 😅
Nothing in your panicked, defensive comment suggests that you are capable of entering a dialogue in good faith. So, run along back to Truth Social or NAMBLA or wherever your kind linger these days and tell them all how cool you are for trolling the libs. You sure got us! Good one!
Youre a major dick if you can’t be assed to read someone’s comment. It is not cool, and very telling of child like behavior, I see it being all too common. It does not matter what the subject of his comment says, be a respectful person and do what they have done for you, humored you and read your comment.
What false statements? And if you’re not gonna read for shit then you might as well just keep screaming like an utter idiot, you fucking dumbass.
Edit: No, actually Jesus fucking Christ you pissed me off. You’re either a troll or a fucking buffoon for assuming I’m a right winger. Get your head out of your ass, you fucking shill.
What the fuck is NAMBLA, you know so much about right wing bubbles, you kinda sound like a troll account used only for screenshots to show how “unhinged” the left is. Either that or you’re actually unhinged. Stop speaking for us on the left, please.
Honestly, I feel like something fucky is going on. Dude’s definitely acting unhinged and not trying to engage in actual discussion. You’ve been fairly level-headed but are being showered in downvotes? Very weird.
Honestly I did lose my cool for a moment there, as is evident by my sudden spam of insults lol… Not fun being on the receiving end of…whatever the hell that was.
But yeah, I don’t understand wtf is up with this comment chain or maybe even the news community as a whole. Feels exceedingly toxic compared to other communities, even the notoriously toxic ones. Hell, for a moment I considered maybe I was being downvoted with bots or brigaded…?
This is LITERALLY PROJECTION. You ignored my entire post and proceeded to argue in bad faith and ignore the very clear statements, along with my entire post history, showing I’m not a fucking right winger. You Americans are so fucking dumb you cannot bother to do some critical thinking for once.
Shit like this is why the rest of the world just laughs while you guys burn yourselves to the ground.
Is this how we are fighting this war now? Claiming stupid shit like “you didn’t address all your lies” when I stated one single literal fact? How old are you kid? Not old enough to read a fucking paragraph?
I’m old enough to remember you resorting to hateful name-calling before editing your last comment.
I’m a retiree who loves calling out conservatives on their bullshit. I’ve lived a long life watching conservatives belittle and bully everyone around them. From a lifetime of observation, I can conclude there is no such thing as a “good conservative”. Never has been.
Holy shit, you set this guy off xD
Lol. It would seem so!
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Lol, I’m a Gen X’er 🤣🤣
Nothing makes me happier than to see conservatives rage. Please keep going.
You’re seeing a leftist rage at an imbecile. Go back to watching MTV or something jfc.
I love how you keep assuming I’m a conservative. Years of your country pushing capitalism down everyone’s throats is more than enough to radicalize anyone into hating conservatives and your fucking capitalistic, imperialistic tendencies as a country.
That is LITERAL BULLSHIT. I edited one of my last comments to actually insult you more. Fucking. Dumbass.
Am I allowed to bring up the coup attempt.
Damn, I wonder why the division is growing.
I mean that marks a stark point of acceleration for sure, but the division has been going on for a lot longer. All my US relatives have been glued to fox news for at least the past decade. My mom goes to visit them (we are from Honduras)and comes back spouting absolute nonsense, when I ask her why, the tv is always on with fox news, it’s all they watch.
Before they all left Honduras in the 80s and 90s, they were left leaning, all of them. Now they aren’t only right leaning, but radicalized and sound insane when talking. This “against the right” or whatever dude sounds actually just like them, but from the left. I don’t feel comfortable sitting here feeling like the same that’s happened to them is happening to us. Well, “us” considering I’m not from the US…
Wow. You’re next level ignorant.
Not even an American and you’re trying to school Americans on America?
Fucking pigeon chess.
You guys end up eating shit up from all the wrong places, forgetting what’s happened throughout American history, both within the country and outside of it. I received US history education in my country with higher priority than my own country’s history thanks to you self righteous fucks, the least you could do is listen when someone tells you you’re charging head first into civil conflict and that throwing shit at each other ain’t helping.
Doubling down on being an ignoramus. Shocked. /s
How do people this stupid still exist? Or is it just a Russian troll?
Are you talking about Mr “everyone who doesn’t agree with me is literally evil”, or about me? If it’s about me, I’m kinda flattered since it would be my first time getting called a Russian troll lol.
You for not understanding the simple fact that the parties switched.