Dems imbraced the race to the bottom instead of being a true opposition party. I voted for them this time around but never again unless they make a platform surrounding core left prencipals and left leadership. Many within my communities gave up on political means to help their communities and threw themselves into volunteering, activism, and self sustainability. You can’t demand bottomless support and obedience from your base while ignoring their cries for help.

Dems said they are the party of science and facts but wouldn’t support universal health care or simply stop sending weapons to Isreal. If they were just as ravenous as republican are, can you honestly say we couldn’t achieve those good things?

Dems said the Supreme court and justice system was courupt, but never even investigated the court or made cuts to the militarization of the police forces. Police are still killing people at the same rates with no real accountability. If the Supreme Court was left leaning Republicans would have expanded the court to make it right leaning.

Just do what Republicans do to get there way but for good. I honestly can’t think of one dem policy that has been as impactful as some of the top Republican changes in the past 50 years.

Ultimately we need to come together and demand better because if the dems don’t change it’ll be 50 more years of being steamrolled.

And California just reaffirmed slavery so it’s not unlikely

👆 This guy likes golden showers 👆

Once things start getting worse he’ll double down and invade Mexico, Cuba, and/or Venezuela. Trade deals with other nations will be suspended resulting in mass hardships, in which he’ll triple down. Project 2025 calls for mass conscription of young adults into the military. Those conscriptes will be sent to reclaim lost resources over seas

May point is arguing from the already compromised position didn’t bring about enough change.

I am not Naive to, the realities of this world.

I am not Naive to, the past pains and harms done to others that brought us to the current state of the world.

I am not Naive to, the fact that change happens slowly and rearly without violence.

I am not Naive to, the fact that I will not get everything I want financially, politically, or socially.

I am not Naive to the fact that those that oppose my beliefs and values may come to do harm to me and those like me.

I am not Naive.

But I do know what’s Naive.

It is Naive, to argue from an already compromised position.

It is Naive, to not take on other struggles as your own because those that wish to do harm are on your side.

It is Naive to, forget the lessons from the past.

It is Naive to, think those worse off don’t hold limitless potential.

It is Naive to, not argue for the most kind and empathetic position as possible.

Because the compromise will be less kind and empathetic than the compromises that came before.

We are not Naive.

Just come out and say your pro genicide man. Stop hiding behind Hamas as the reason for the Palestinian peoples current situation. Like I don’t even have to look far within Israeli government to find leaders openly saying, “Ya we are going to kill or expelle every Palestinian.”

Just come out and day it. You think every Arab and Muslim is a religious extremist and are terrorists. Just stop hiding behind the idea that the millions of people mostly kids and women in Palestine are acceptable casualties as long as it’s them and not us. Why aren’t we offering asylum to all none Hamas extremist in Palestine so we can protect them as well? Just say you are pro genicide dude.

Lol you’ve drank too much of the coolaid. The ACA was better than what we had before but still not even close to fixing our disastrous Healthcare System. Middle class people still can’t afford preventive care and the line between the poors and the middle class just gets smaller every day with the shrinking of the middle class. There is no marginal growth/change when we know the answer to this problem. Anything short of universal health care coverage cost none wealthy people their lives.

Me: Let’s stop all genicide and oppression everywhere by whom ever.

You: ummm actually if we didn’t genicide them, they’d genicide us…

Me: The fuck?!

You: and America’s modern genicides and atrocities were much worse…

Me: The fuck is wrong with you!

Don’t get me wrong, Hamas are the worst of the “other” side but that’s why we would fight them as well if the roles were reversed. But I won’t want to achieve that goal by killing 40k innocent people. I’d be just as upset and angry. It’s asking for no genicide regardless of who’s the perpetrator or whos the victims?!

And also your argument is the equivalent to saying those being surprised by a stronger power can only fight back by conviction means? Or that the Palestinian people having negative views towards religious fundamentalist who are literally killing and starving their friends and family, forfeit their lives for said negative views? For example if you asked jews people in concentration camps during WWII if they had negative views towards German people, and taking their answer as a determining factor on if they live or die… Nazi Germany also called jews freedom fighters in occupied Poland terrorist. And some of those freedom fighters committed horrific crimes against German civilians… Was Nat Turner a freedom fighter or terrorist? Were native American raids on settlements built on their ancestors land righteous or terrorism?

Hamas wasn’t created in a vaccum.

You are confusing every day no political or financial power democrats with the democrats leadership… Democratic leadership gave up on their base 80 years ago. Can you name one major accomplishment the democrats have done at the federal level? The ACA? Maybe? But that was just a bandaid on a bullet wound.

Your way of thinking is like an abusive husband’s mindset.

Lol okay then way are voting. Why are you commenting? Rather than being proactive with a problem solving mindset you are just going to continue to do things that obviously don’t work? This isn’t some unavailable catastrophic outcome. This happened because people prefer to rip each other down than trying to lift each other up. If you aren’t fighting for marginalized people everywhere, why do you get mad when they respond with apathy or anger when you demand they support your ideals? Everyone is copable in this presidential outcome. No one group or person is 100% to blame. My 2020 vote for Biden has blood on it and that doesn’t sit well with me. I make up for it by doing more than just voting and insulting people on the internet. That’s how you gain votes. Not whatever you are doing. The DNC could have let Palestinian Americans speak, but they didn’t. They could have had a more left platform, but they didn’t. This centrists agenda has a 33% success rate over the past three elections and when democracy is at stake can you really be calus to your base? I have history and facts on my side.

What’s the definition of insanity?

Obama, sadly was a failure. Better than any other president since FDR and Carter, but that’s not saying much. America wanted change and all we got was the ACA from him and a few less terrible trade deals. Obama deported more people than Trump and never fixed the decline in the middle class. I turned 18 when Obama first ran and was so excited for all the “change” and nothing improved sustainably for the average American. He could have solidified himself as the best ever but road the middle too often and now the party is officially dead.

And what’s your solution to those with legitimate hangups? Sit behind a keyboard and call them idiots? There was no downside to being 100% anti genicide. There is no downside to be for universal health care. There’s no downside to making education 100% free. There’s no downside to fighting for income redistribution.

What’s your solution to these real fucking problems? Because the democrats never truly tried any of these or even advocated for them. It’s been this way since the new deal. A slow decay to Jim crow, women’s suffrage, and xenophobia. We need new tactics because what you and the Democrat leadership is saying and doing isn’t fucking working!

Uhhhh no… Just no… Most Palestinian Americans don’t want genicide to go the other way… And the people living in Palestinian don’t have the capability to even have running water, electricity, airforce or navy let alone the capability to do a genicide so just no. Pro Isreal / pro genicide people were going to vote for Trump regardless… How about a no genicide party? Is that too much to ask?

Difference between you and rational people is we are trying to get the best and not just the least worst people. I voted blue but it’s obvious change is needed.

Okay but if we are guaranteed to lose without them, what’s the harm in giving them what they want? Losing while taking the morally right position is never wrong. We spit in the Arab/Muslim/Palestinians/far left Americans faces and they stayed home on election day. So what’s the harm in at least giving into their demands? The Republicans do that for their base and are winning even when they lose elections. So I’m arguing a change in tactics because we are literally taking the insanity route if we don’t.

My argument is what did the democrats have to lose for supporting Gaza/Palestinians? It’s obvious not running a fully left facing candidate and campaign was a mistake.

We are mad at the wrong people. The reality of the situation is that the democrats can’t win without the far left of the party. So why won’t we extend an olive branch? If we get a next time, what are we going to do differently?! This is the reality. Either we wake up to that or keep losing. Pick one.

Only if the father was also white and blond. If the baby was “mixed” out could eventually claim to be Indian or Black…

We should nationalize Boeing