Don’t bring soup into this. This is an argument between soggy leaf juice and burnt bean juice.

I prefer the term dirty bean water

That’s the problem. Your bean soup should be thick like mud. Tastes awful that way, but MAN WILL YOU FEEL IT IN YOUR HAIR FOLLICLES!

Bean mud

Perfect response.

“Fingers, Dead, Cold”

What you mean? Just dump the damn teabag in the hot water in your cup and a spoonful of honey.

Tastes like honey every time

Don’t forget the water quality itself. Plays a major role too.

Yup, green tea is great if you’re not drinking factory floor dust and you haven’t oversteeped it. If your tea is bitter and is leaving you with a dry mouth, something is wrong.

I can practically guarantee that people who say they hate tea haven’t tried brewing any kind of loose leaf tea at the proper temp and time.

I got a 1kg brick of the cheapest loose-leaf black tea I could find for ~$3.50, and it’s delicious. I drink it almost every day, I bought it in June last year, and I’m just now running low. I brewed a bag lipton black tea at work recently, took one sip and I dumped it the fuck out. Absolutely foul, that stuff.

So I can see why people hate tea if they’ve only ever tried cheap bags with boiling water

Same could be said about coffee but I feel like people are more willing to forgive all the garbage coffee out there than the tea.

I enjoy a good high quality cup of either.

What else would give you energy if not literal battery juice?

Coffee tastes good on its own tho…

Coffee is great, the problem is most coffee is brewed horribly. Get yourself a cheap pour over set and a kettle and you’ll get significantly better results, with much more improvement possible past that with whole beans and a decent grinder

Try speciality coffee. The average cup of coffee is not particularly good, but freshly ground speciality coffee brewed with care is great and does not warrant cream and sugar.

Beware that it’s easy to go down a rabbit hole and find yourself having spent a whole lot of time and money on it after a while. It’s all part of the fun, though.

When I drink black tea I oversteep it and then add a bunch of sugar. For coffee it’s espresso with lots of creamer. Full bitter and full sweet so my mouth is too confused to know if it’s good or not.

Coffee that tastes good straight is generally expensive. I can make some straight green tea with good loose leaves for really cheap.

I thought the same until I tried good pour over coffee… blew my mind.

Is your British half about 500 years old?

I don’t know… nothing cools me down on a hot day quite like liquid methane.

1. Tea quality really matters. Almost all of the supermarket stuff in ultra fine bags is literally the leftover dust from actual tea making. (Looking at you, Tetley)

2. Steep time and water temperature. Oversteeping make it bitter, which is unfortunately how most older people grew up serving it. Some teas need 5 minutes at 95C(Rooibos); other need a minute at 80C(most greens)

You haven’t had good tea or coffee then. The quality of the tea or beans, water temp, steep time, water quality, brew method can make or ruin any cup of coffee or tea. Get yourself to a nice local roaster or tea shop and have them brew you a cup. Can’t speak thoroughly on tea but for the best coffee order a pour over (chemex or v60 if they offer options) of a single origin bean (usually on their specials menu) that has tasting notes that sound good to you. Alternatively get an espresso of a single origin bean if you’d rather get punched in the face with coffee flavor. Guaranteed it’ll be unlike any coffee you’ve had before

To be fair I think it’s easier to make bad coffee than bad tea. But a proper good coffee is god tier, not sure about tea, I don’t think I ever had a proper good tea. (I am open to recommendations)

Enough cream and sugar and they both taste the same. That’s my strategy.

You’re not far off, there’s a kind of coffee called Kopi Luwak which is literally a shit coffee that’s been eaten by civet cat and then pooped out. There’s a similar kind of that coffee that’s been eaten and shit out by elephants.

Kopi is considered gourmet among coffee drinkers, but in my opinion it’s just cope considering someone sold them literal shit they juice into a cup using steaming water. Personally I cannot imagine the mental gymnastics to make the poopy brown bean shit-water a part of my morning routine.

Properly brewed cold green tea is best enjoyed without sweetening