Democrats tell us democracy is on the line and many people including myself believe it, but then they push a weak candidate likely to lose merely because his team has lined their pockets with corporate donations and pledged allegiance to Israel. Democrats need to decide if democracy is on the line, or if they lie to their voters and don’t care if Trump wins.
Or, billionaires own media and using them to shape public opinion so they can get more corporate friendly candidate.
Biden was perceived as corporate friendly in 2020, but he delivered more worker friendly policies and also is promising to increase taxes on rich
This isn’t about getting a more corporate-friendly candidate. It is about beating Trump, plain & simple. Biden’s abysmal debate performance wasn’t CNN drugging him to instill a new corporate shill for the Democrat-party. The Democrat party is capable of pushing corporate shills themselves already, as they did in 2016.
Maybe not, but capitalism and fascism want the same things. They don’t care about Biden’s age, just their wealth and not supporting anyone who threatens that. That’s why all the narrative around Biden’s age is all we get out of that debate. The wealthy own all means of communication.
There’s a reason the saying, “the revolution will not be televised,” is relevant. I think you may be missing the plot a little as no one thinks CNN drugged or did anything else to Biden. But the media can make it so the national attention is on Biden. They want him replaced or they want tRump to win.
They’re playing chess while a majority of Americans are fighting about who gets the white pieces and who gets the red ones [cause they’re playing checkers]!
Biden deserves this loss, he literally said only God would take him out this race, but you know democracy is threatened! So lets run the shittiest candidate possible, and its extra infuriating because Biden/Harris is literally the most unlikeable ticket possible. Harris is even more unlikeable, Ive had numerous people ask me why an Indian girl raised in India and Canda whose crown achievement is locking up marijuana users is doing a BET advert talking about shes out in these streets. It feels like beyond pandering.
Speaking of CNN, many people are not aware that CNN changed owner in 2022 to MAGA friendly one. So I would now treat it more like Fox News lite.
Biden supporters in 2024 are sounding a lot like Trump supporters in 2016 by calling all the media outlets fake news now.
Because the people surrounding Biden are good at their jobs. Each has a weakness: Trump is a liar and Biden is old and forgetful. Trump’s people made no effort to hide Trump’s weakness, but Biden’s people did a good job of hiding it up to the debate. That people are surprised is a good sign that Biden surrounded himself with competent people - but also this is what debates are suppose to do, reveal the true candidates to the nation.
Or maybe unlike basically any president before him in modern times Biden has the lowest public appearance rate and the least press meetings since fucking Reagan and he even had more with his early onset dementia.
Biden has literally hidden from view and hoped decorum and order would see him through to a second term and it’s not working especially when he comes south of the shadows and drops a debate like what we saw.
Honestly the people around Biden aren’t competent either. They are just rich people from prestigious colleges who “yes and” and want to stay influential and paid. They do their job which is more than Trump’s cabinet but none of them are some heroic savior of this terrible presidential election no matter how much you want it to be.
Appease the thoughts of him losing however you want but that won’t stop it either.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Here’s a summary: Not only did Trump repeatedly lie, but he also delivered nonsensical responses and non-answers lacking any insight into his policy plans.
For example, when moderator Jake Tapper asked what he would do to make child care more affordable, the presumptive GOP nominee initially dodged the question.
Later, when Trump was given an opportunity at the debate to address voter concerns over his mental fitness, the 77-year-old offered two points to alleviate the public’s fears.
Also of concern on the debate stage, Trump didn’t commit to unconditionally accepting the election results and underscored his intentions to seek political retribution.
Commentator Kaivan Shroff remarked that the media has chosen to “ignore Trump being a convicted felon, racist, nutjob, etc” while journalist Sophia Nelson said on CNN that she believed it’s fair to question Biden after his performance, but warned of the “pile-on” against him.
“It’s frankly astonishing that we have no less than eight op-ed pieces calling for Biden to drop out after a bad debate, but we had zero after any one of Trump’s convictions,” journalist Victoria Brownworth wrote.
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Because Americans value being loud and confident over everything else. That’s why Trump has been able to be so successful here despite being a hateful moron.
Because Assholes value being loud and confident over everything else. That’s why Trump has been able to be so successful here despite being a hateful moron.
Not all Americans share these “values”
I know, but American culture in general very much does.
I thought Biden was sick, or was it tired? Now it’s tongue tied? The DNC is literally handing Trump the WH by refusing to acknowledge they are propping up a vegetable
TIL you can only be one at a time.
Not when the story keeps changing
Orrrrr yes tired and a cold, that’s not a ludicrous combination lol. And he’s always had a stutter, which yes can come out in many ways.
Listening to liberals still defending Biden is like listening to Republicans in their cult like worship for Trump
So dishonest lmao. Nobody thinks he’s a fucking banger of a candidate. Nobody is leaping for joy to vote for fucking Joe Biden. His faults are myriad and obvious. There is no worship. You have the choice between an actual despot and grampa Joe. That’s it.
They are both despots, those are your choices. I, and many others, refuse to participate in failed politics which only serve the wealthy
This is just reductive. Look at any of the policies from the D’s that benefit all of us, women, the poor. Waste your vote and enable fascism. Feel free.
edit: and the gays… and education… and taxes… and infrastructure… and climate… and migration…
Plenty of FOSS social media here, why not explore another comment thread? 🥾
Oh, you’re a contrarian who is only here for drama? Shocker 🥱
Announcing that you beat Medicare isn’t a cold symptom.
“Don’t you think he looks tired” isn’t a great talking point in favor of your candidate.
While I could see the wisdom in not propping up a vegetable, I’m not sure acknowledging that they are propping up a vegetable is any more of a “winning strategy”.
They need to count their losses while they still have time.
Trump lying is no news. He performed as everyone expected.
Your loyalty to Joe biden won’t get Him reelected, in fact it will do the exact opposite, denial of reality will come smacking hard the day of election, because the election will be sealed by the unaffiliated undecided electors, and Biden’s mental acuity won’t win them over.
“loyalty.” Heh. I’m not loyal to Biden. I would prefer another viable candidate. But unfortunately, here we are. I don’t have another viable democratic candidate. The party doesn’t have another viable candidate.
So I’m going to vote Biden. Mainly because I absolutely do not want Trump.
That’s the new narrative they’re pushing – that it’s about loyalty to Biden and not action against Trump.
Because everyone expects trump to lie.
Continually, repeatedly and with wild abandon. People noticed Biden’s stumble BECAUSE it was out of the norm
With trump it was the same old shit he always says
It wasn’t out of the norm, it’s just up till that point all the gaffs were smaller audience and MSM and online CTR types constantly saying things like “he’s got a stutter!” or “you’re just ageist!” and the debate was much more obvious and watched by enough that those deflections aren’t working anymore.
I held my nose and voted Biden last election BTW, we just should have faced the facts that he’s clearly been in cognative decline and put in place steps to have a successor prepared, but the party decided it had to be Biden and here we are.
You held your nose to vote for the objectively better candidate who has gone on to do more for the progressive movement than any other president ever.
I have to say that shit like that constantly being said can’t possibly help either. Constant negativity at every stage no matter what; great look.
Bernie would have been better on literally every front and he was fucked by the DNC and the elites.
Saying Biden has been the most progressive president is honestly hilarious to me, like did you know FDR existed? Ever looked into some of the glorious policies in that time?
Trump is literally a wannabe evil dictator, so yeah Biden is clearly the better candidate, but let’s be real here please.
It’s not correct to say Biden has been more progressive than FDR, especially for the time. However, it’s also not “hilarious” to mistake the number 2 for the number 1. Policy-wise Biden has been enormously good for the working class and it’s not honest to say otherwise. Also, FDR had almost 4 terms and never openly sided with a union over a corporation like Biden did.
What union did Biden openly side with? If it’s the rail one I’m thinking of, he broke the strike and forced them back… So…
What other progressive policies has Biden implemented? (Serious question)
I do know about the student loan stuff, which was killed, did raise the minimum wage for federal workers, which is nice but also just a small improvement. Roe v Wade is out now (not directly his fault ofc) and I haven’t seen any overall improvements/changes on that front.
UAW.
NLRB appointments that are top notch, FTC appointments that are top notch, the ones you mentioned, improved overtime 1.5x pay regulations, LOTS of infrastructure spending for public transport, lots of antitrust in the tech sector specifically regarding privacy and data brokering, strict regulations against Airlines and banks who apply hidden fees and predatory return/overdraft loan interest policies as well as specific mortgage loan practices which result in surprise rate increases, and he might be structuring for Marijuana decriminalization, it’s already down to schedule 3 from schedule 1. Most of his accomplishments are tied to his agencies and some smart appointments to them, and it is a big reason the Supreme Court is trying to gut them.
His executive orders have been much more measured than Obama’s and Trump’s, for better or for worse. He doesn’t seem to want the supreme court to slap down everything he does, but that’s a neoliberal for you.
I see your point, I guess my stance is a lot of those feel like neolib small steps, which aren’t nothing for sure, just hard to say they’re actually progressive, as most progressive ideals I align with require much larger changes to structure in general. Neolib policies are partially what brought us to this place (of course the GOP ghouls tearing it all down every other presidency doesn’t help…) I think a lot of it ends up feeling like the dems promise a lot and then under deliver every time, but they clearly don’t cheerlead the wins they do make enough either. Feels like they’re constantly just trying to fight off right wing narratives instead, which is clearly just a waste of time as they will misrepresent and straight lie as much as possible.
It is so funny they talk about the look and presentation when its so much easier to just spew out whatever is at tip of your brain with no care about veracity.
[Donald Trump] May Not Be Good for America, but [He’s] Damn Good for CBS”
-CBS CEO Les Moonves, 2/29/16
And nothing has changed since.
Because everyone who owns the news is rich and the republicans like rich people and are also gonna lower their taxes
Because literally nobody is suprised by trump as this point. We all know what he is at this point. Biden popped the fascade that has been carefully crafted to keep us all thinking he was doing alright despite being old as fuck.
100%. People want to act like it was a “bad debate performance” but it was absolutely eye opening to the american people. Its not about who won or lost a debate.
How many people who previously hadn’t been paying attention to the race tuned in and saw the same deterioration they’ve watched in their own parents and grandparents?
And it’s not like it’s the first of those incidents. He fell off his bike, tripped getting on air force one, had a bunch of press conferences where he did the trailing off in the middle of his answer thing, etc.
And this isn’t the only person democrats did this with either. They enabled Dianne Feinstein to run for reelection despite her being at deaths door, there’s the RBG debacle, etc.
Democrats need to get better at refreshing the old guard. The only one that did it kind of right is Nancy Pelosi: groom a successor and step aside when the time is right.
Democrats are so ego driven that they think death itself cannot claim them at a moment’s notice. I think this is part of the facade of the Democrats people are, unfortunately, going to respond to this election: Democrats, as a party, like to present themselves as being all about compromise and caring. Getting things done for the #AmericanPeople. But when it’s time to step down and let others shine in the limelight because you’ve had your time and the physical realities of age are something you have to acknowledge, or when there might be a better candidate for an election and you have to make the difficult choice of not getting what you want for the good of the country, that fucking sentiment disappears like a fart in the wind.
I love the argument about the bike, have you seen trump on a bike? There’s a 99% chance that you don’t ride a bike yourself.
BTW: he tripped, because he had to stop to talk with reporters and the predators had straps. It even happened to me and I’m much much younger than him.
The salient point- Biden does things better DAILY than Trump did in 4 years and we’re still somehow focusing on stupid shit.
Maybe there’s millions of qualified people other than Trump and Biden in the US? Why do Americans have to settle for just these 2? Why does Biden get to say he’s the only one that could beat Trump, if that’s objectively not true?
I can’t think of anyone else who could beat him. I really believed that Clinton could do it, and technically she did, but she didn’t beat him bad enough. A lot of people thought he was just playing himself up to win and wouldn’t be so bad once he got in (myself included). He showed them he wasn’t playing anything up and a vote against him got the largest turnout in history.
I really thought (and prayed, and begged the universe) that Sanders would get a shot.
Damn, what a mess. What a stressful, stressful, mess.
With a gay kid and a trans kid, I really do worry about their future. All we can do is ride the rock and hope for the best though. Well, that and vote against the dude who openly despises certain groups.
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Why didn’t you 9 name a candidate and why you think they’d win. Come on now, it’s a social forum. Get social.
Edit 2:
Chomp chomp. That’s me eating my words and praying I’m wrong on 7/21
Well the facade was bound to pop eventually, it was just easy to keep when you have done 100 less press events than literally any president in the last 4 decades.
He’s been really really just hidden away and relying on good press to do all the talking for him and that’s now gone for sure.
“Tongue tied”
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Trump getting no pushback for lying for 1 hour and not actually any questions is a real issue. Trying to say Biden was tongue-tied is way too generous. His mind was spinning up like old 90 computer hardrives. It took awhile for him to reply to anything. If this debate was taken seriously, Trump wouldn’t have gotten to sit up there and do that for all that time.
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