So another thread ( https://lemmy.world/post/17746018 ) got me wondering… How many people would want to move to another country?

Just to provide a concrete scenario, let’s assume that in your current country you (magically) have a decent-ish job. They open up offices in another country of your choosing, and you have the option of moving there and work for an equivalent living wage.

They’re able to get visas set up (however improbable that may be) for you and any family, but you have to go through the process of finding housing, physically moving your belongings and anything else you need to set up.

What countries would you take the offer to move to, if any?

  • owatnext@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I want out. I want to go to Australia, but any country with decent human rights is a good choice. But I’ve been to Australia and it was cool.

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      4 months ago

      Australia is under the five eyes pact so it has the same policies as the USA when it comes to spying on citizens. Just something to have in mind.

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    4 months ago

    I did move within the EU for studying and for work and it was generally a good experience and I would do it again. Am German and have been in Ireland for studying and lived in the Netherlands and Slovenia for work (although never longer than for one year).

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    4 months ago

    I mean, I did. Highly recommend. Spoiler alert almost all the non-USA people places a multinational company would offer to post you don’t have guns

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    4 months ago

    Of course. I have. Spent some time in Japan. I would very happily go back, but I’m in the States again now.

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    4 months ago

    Quite a few places, particularly if it was coupled with a decent job. Denmark, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Ireland, S. Korea, Japan, New Zealand, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland and mayyybe the US depending on how enticing the job was.

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    4 months ago

    I do have that option and choose not to exercise it because it would take me too far away from my kids.

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    4 months ago

    Off the cuff, yes…

    Canada(West Coast)

    Australia

    Iceland

    One of the Scandinavian countries. (Norway, Finland, Sweden)

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    4 months ago

    About 10 years ago, I moved to Japan and don’t regret it. The only real downsides are that my family is on the other side of the world and the yen is doing poorly against the dollar. Well, that and being a US citizen trying to do something silly like use Japanese retirement vehicles outside of pension (iDECO and NISA) is basically impossible because everything is considered a PFIC by the US, but that’s true of many things in other countries as a US citizen.

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    4 months ago

    North Americans, I’m one of you. You have to leave for a while. You gain perspective.

    Back in '07, I left. I was in Australia in '09 and some Aussies asked me, ‘what’s it like living over there?’

    The only thing I could come up with at the time was " causes neuroticism.’ It’s so much worse now that we have social media, smartphones, and a penchant for duelling forms of misinformation.

    What I learned is that there are many ways to live. There are lots of goals people have — and can have — many of them are quite modest: a safe place to live, love, and feel part of community. There are much worse daily experiences than those we hear about in the news, or see on TV, or read about it books. There is truly grinding poverty and privation that does not translate well into a novel or an article — readership is fickle. Yet, from those ashes, there is still joy, levity, and grace.

    So, we residents of the most powerful economies must see outside of our bubbles. We must see, first hand, how we are duped into believing there is only one set of goals, one North American dream, one prestige, and one centre of power. When you spend enough years away, you just might forget about homeownership, career-building, and fretting over retirement. You might find that life is about living, about doing good work, and about being with people you care to pass the time with.

    At least, that’s what 12 years outside of NA taught me.

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    4 months ago

    I really love Belgium. It’s a criminally underrated country with a silly culture and a pretty fun vibe.

    The bad news is that I’m Moroccan, and not just any Moroccan, a QUEER Moroccan (even more specifically, an aroace gender non-conforming Moroccan man), meaning basically everyone hates me.

    I need to get the visa which takes forever to get and I have a chance of getting denied.

    Right wing politicians in the country are basically super racist and really hate the immigrants so much (most of the bad apples are second generation folks that literally act like they’re having a stroke, even Moroccans hate them).

    Housing is expensive basically everywhere. People in Belgium are pretty introverted (just like me), meaning they basically don’t care of my presence, but it’s much harder to make friends.

    Everyone I know actively discourages moving there because they only know Brussels and… the snooze festival that is Charleroi or something, but they’ve never heard of Ghent or Hasselt or Bruges or Liège or Antwerpen (truly amazing cities) so they’re basically untrustworthy.

    I’m so disconnected from the country I live in that I genuinely don’t feel Moroccan and want to get rid of my citizenship (spoiler alert: it’s quite literally impossible). But is it really easy to convince people? Actually, my family gets very mad when I say this because they’re super patriotic and shit.

    I don’t even practice religion. I’ve never cared about it. I do believe in God, but I really lack that spirituality and whatnot that would make me “religious”. But unfortunately everyone would wanna kill me for apostasy.

    I could go on, but we’d be here all day. Basically, I hate my country so much and I just want out so bad.

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    4 months ago

    I don’t know about MOVE move, but I did see some lovely little houses in Mexico that are pretty affordable. Might make nice winter homes.

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    4 months ago

    I would and I did. Nearly on a lark I decided to move to Norway right as the pandemic started appearing on cruise ships. I got a job within two weeks and they handled the immigration process for the most part. It wasn’t simple but it was pretty straight forward.

    And it was worth it, big time.