• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    4 months ago

    It is a crisis. But nobody wants to talk about where it’s coming from.

    If you look at the Great Pacific Garbage Patch:

    33% - China
    33% - Japan
    15% - Korea
    11% - Misc Countries (combined)
    5% - United States
    3% - Taiwan

    Source: https://ourworldindata.org/plastic-great-pacific-garbage

    So even if Biden could wave a wand and eliminate all plastic waste from the US… it’s 5% of the crisis.

    • thericofactor@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      4 months ago

      One guy from the Netherlands is cleaning a lot of that shit up though. Look up Boyan Slat. It’s not only about stopping the pollution, but also about how to help cleaning it up.

    • Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      4 months ago

      5% is still 5%, gains are good and may get other countries working towards the same goals.
      Just because we can’t do it all in one go doesn’t mean we shouldn’t even start.

    • NullPointer@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      does that 5% include all the garbage the US exports that then ultimately ends up in the ocean?

      plus a third of all of that is unidentifiable

    • underisk@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      All you’ve really demonstrated is that China and Japan are well represented in one very specific pollution phenomenon but not why that is. There are a number of reasons that those two could be overemphasized that aren’t “these guys are doing all the plastic pollution”. For example, ocean currents probably play a big role, in combination with the location of the patch itself.

      You cannot extrapolate this out into a representative sample of the sources of all plastic pollution, it’s statistical gymnastics. Hell, the article you linked even offers an alternative explanation for why Japan is so high:

      One of the reasons that Japan is thought to contribute so highly was that the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami washed large amounts of debris offshore.

      It’s at the end of the article though so I can see how you might have overlooked it in your rush to place all the blame on foreigners.

    • Wytch@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      4 months ago

      It took "yes we found it in our testicles” for us to acknowledge it though

  • snack_pack_rodriguez@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    4 months ago

    how else are we going to make handmaid’s tale come true. if you don’t want to live in a dystopian nightmare,. Vote Blue then Vote something better than Blue the next time cause you won’t be able to vote a next time if you vote red.