Wow. The panic is palpable
I made this joke 12 hours ago:
I want to create an account on whatever social media they’re on and agree with them loudly and adding “What are they planning on doing for the white man?” or something similar to every statement.
The Democrats aren’t about regular people anymore! What are they planning on doing for the white man?!?
Except I’m pretty sure a whole shit pile of them would agree with me and nominate me for something or other. Then I’d just be sad.
I guess it was less a joke and more prophetic.
Good. The more racist they get, the more likely they will lose. There are a lot of racist Americans, make no mistake, but even a lot of them get a bad taste in their mouth when the racism gets overt from politicians. They want laws that benefit them as white people, they don’t want to hear about how Biden is a friend to the N-s.
They are actually questioning Biden’s inherently racist decision to only consider black women for certain roles. The Republican position is that race should not be a factor in hiring decisions, and they’re using Biden’s VP and Supreme Court nominations to setup the counterpoint that he is the racist one - racist against whites.
inherently racist decision
Balancing the scales is not racism.
Let’s simplify this down to a coin flip.
Now for a long time, heads has been weighted to be the result for a while. So say the last 50 flips, it was 40 heads and 10 tails.
So you evaluated the coin and realize it’s imbalanced. Would you weigh the tails side so the next 50 flips show more tails so that over the 100 total flips, it’s balanced?
Or do you remove the imbalance completely, and can say the next 50 will be fair.
Statistics would say the later, but seems people feel the first option would make it “fair” even though it’s not balanced.
Equating “the attempted mitigation of generations of systemic oppression” with “coin flips” is both idiotic and deranged behavior.
You’re not being “logical”, you’re being flippant.
But, sure, let’s play in your space. Heads or tails. My coin is “fair”. Of course.
Heads, I kill something you like. Maybe friends, maybe family, maybe you like having all your fingers. It doesn’t matter; it’s all hypothetical.
Tails? Well, we just flip again.
Aaaaand, it’s Heads. Off goes the thumb.
Heads again, and I take the middle finger.
Heads, Heads, Heads! Might as well just take the whole arm while I’m at.
Oh, but alas! My coin was not fair; “unwittingly” balanced toward Heads. I’ll use a balanced coin now.
Yes, your arm is gone but it’ll be fair in the future.
Exactly! I’m glad you understand. And weren’t overly aggressive or anything.
Unless tails has the option to regrow said fingers or arm. You need to move forward with what is fair for everyone.
It’s pretty much impossible to balance anything after the fact. You need to have a forward thinking mentality for progress to be made.
Judging someone (or refusing to consider someone for a job) based on the color of their skin is racism. At least to most Americans. Which is why this is politically smart for the red team. The weird variation where you dismiss racism directed towards groups that were historically powerful is a fringe left idea, recently outlawed even in liberal California when affirmative action was banned.
No, only ever hiring white people is racism.
Hiring black people because white people are the ones who almost always get the job is redressing the balance.
That would also be racism. Any time you use race as a hiring factor in the US, you are breaking the law and promoting racism.
You really don’t understand the concept of racism.
Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group.
Putting my PoliSci cap on… Most Americans would say, “Two wrongs don’t make a right. Being racist today isn’t a valid fix for the harms of people being racist yesterday.” And that’s why Republicans win when Democrats focus too much on racial issues - the 7 in 10 perceive it as a new form of racism directed at them.
Do you want to be right at all costs? Or do you want to win this election?
I’m just talking about the way most Americans define it. You don’t have to agree, but from a political science perspective, you’re playing a losing game if you stick to that definition. The majority of Californians don’t even agree with it, so imagine how much worse it polls in the rest of the country…
Do you have evidence to show that the majority of Californians think that Harris was a “DEI hire?”
Now you’re twisting my words. I’m not trying to defend Republicans. I’m trying to help you understand the nature and intent behind their words so you realize they aren’t as dumb as you think. Respect thy enemy and all that.
Most Californians think hiring based on race is wrong, and racist. Across the country, the margins on that get even better.
Republicans are just playing into that. You can downvote me all you want, but it doesn’t change the political reality of the situation.
Edit: I just checked - 7 in 10 Americans oppose affirmative action (reverse racism). To quote Biden, “It’s a fact, Jack!” You may support it, but that doesn’t make it a winning campaign strategy.
The Republican position is that race should not be a factor in hiring decisions
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! The party of cronyism and nepotism, the least diverse political party? Really?
what about white females
Aren’t they supposed to be at home cleaning, cooking, raising kids, and missing out on health care?
Get fukt you backwards ass prick.
Hey, anyone remember those old peanut butter cup ads? The ones where some peanut butter and chocolate get mixed together accidentally and people realize they taste good together?
This is just like those ads! Except with misogyny and racism, of course.
And the mix tastes like shit.
If that’s the best they got they’re fucked
Btw when the GOP says “DEI hire” they mean “<n-word>”
I know this has been posted ad nauseam but it still makes me laugh.
All black people with jobs that aren’t fast food worker or janitor are “DEI hires” because conservatives are racist and don’t believe that black people can actually be qualified for any higher level job.
You’ll never see a conservative praise a business or department for clever hiring if the person/people they just hired happen to be black. It’s either white person or DEI hire to their minds.
What really frustrates me is the sudden latching in to a phrase or acronym. DEI has been corporate policy for a WHILE, in that exact wording. But all of a sudden it’s this hot take talking point insult. Idk I’ve had a few beers I hope that makes sense
Idk I’ve had a few beers I hope that makes sense
You’re 100% correct despite the beer.
What about white females? The right would still call them derogatory names if they didn’t completely and wholeheartedly submit to them.
Abysmal record of, checks notes, being vp? Gtfo of here you clowns. Do better
Points at brown woman
“Why isn’t she white?”
Somehow this is where our political discourse is
And a Senator. And a District Attorney. Elected as both of those, not “hired.”
She hasn’t been “hired” for anything. Of all the issues to take with her, calling her a “DEI Hire” has got to be the most ridiculous.
What a truly idiotic position to take.
Someone here on Lemmy yesterday said her record as a senator would hurt her because she didn’t come up with any major legislation.
As if voters give two shits about who comes up with what in congress and not just the result for them.
Yeah, I’ve been reviewing her record because of all the hate, and I definitely don’t like a former DA as VP/President, but… her record is surprising good from what I can see. She sponsored a ton of good bills, was fairly left-leaning (for a US politician) on the bills she sponsored, and even while a DA/AG she refused to seek the death penalty and tried to work against racist behavior in police (without actually, you know, holding any of them accountable). She wasn’t perfect by any stretch, and she was still a DA who is practically a cop, but she seemed to be one of the better ones (I know, low bar).
I’m not really understanding all the hate she is getting, even from her own side. The amount of “hold your nose and vote for her” seems out of proportion for her record.
Now they support white women.
Ah yes, the mythical white woman who would have raised $250 million in 24 hours instead of just a record breaking $100 million.
Hilary… but they didn’t vote for her
Hillary raised $90 million in the entire month of July.
Harris raised $89 million in a single day in July.
what about white females?
I read that in the ferengi voice on ds9. “Feeeemaaleeesssss”
You’d think we were in the Stone Age.
Similar, only with early TNG Ferengi.
Is the singular of Ferengi “Ferengus?”
I think no one would object if Republicans changed their mind to nominate a “white female” as their candidate. Just a reminder though, no Trump in drag, according to Republican policies that is no woman, right?
Maybe Rudy Giuliani in drag. Would that work?
(Btw, that actually happened. Google “Giuliani Drag Trump Motorboat” if you dare.)
Google “Giuliani Drag Trump Motorboat” if you dare.
Tbh, I’d like to see Trump in drag
Have a look at a photo of his mother. It’s like something out of a comedy movie. It’s just Donald with lipstick and a bizarre wig.
I’m not judging, but damn that’s a weird kink.
It’s a reach, and a really weird one at that, but it’s all yours.
I’d like to see him in prison and then never again.
Yeah that would be better but drag seems more likely at this point
Did they just endorse Hilary?
Your (current) logical fallacy is… Whataboutism!
