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That tray table is WAYYYYY too big and luxurious - they have shrunk legroom so dramatically now that you get a little sliver about the width of your shoe.
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That cup is about double the size they give now.
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You didn’t get to pick those pretzels, there was just the single “choice” now.
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Also, you didn’t get to pick that seat and you had to have last minute anxiety that you wouldn’t even be assigned a seat by the gate agent at the airport (after already taking time off from work to travel and committing $100+ for uber or airport parking)
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You also paid at least an extra $100 to have a carryon bag (more depending on your route) and even more for a checked bag.
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your seatback no longer has a screen in it. You have to submit to letting airline gorge on your personal data by granting permissions to run entertainment from your own phone and drain your battery.
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Also, though they removed screen and expect you to use your own device, no viable phone holder provided to put your phone in a proper viewing position, so you’ll crane and hurt your neck throughout flight.
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Also, your base airline ticket is now more expensive than in the past baggie all these upcharges and compromises.
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shitty rental car at your destination now costs $100/day and parking at your hotel is not free, and is in fact $30-$50 additional per night.
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And your garbage hotel room costs 3X what it should.
Even spirit airlines allows you to pick your seat provided you book in advance
It doesn’t though with the basic fares now. Boarding pass has “see gate agent” printed where a seat assignment would be. And no guarantee of a couple/family being seated together.
Also always rumors of airlines testing stacked or standing seats to cram even more people in each plane.
Oh yeah, they may have charged like $10 for me to pick my seat, but that seemed worth it for a guaranteed window seat
Depends on the market probably, but a lot of spots it’s like $50-$100 extra, each way, to upgrade to the seat level that let’s you choose a seat. Frontier and spirit used to be the joke, but most of them are doing it now. Cliche joke used to be that they’d charge you each time you used the bathroom (maybe they actually happened in Europe, Ryanair?) But like too many things, we’re close to living the onion.
Allegiant and Frontier don’t, unless you want to pay extra to pick your seat. Some will cost more than others.
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You COULD be paying for first class seats and getting that kind of treatment, but you’re flying Economy, aren’t you.
Well for me it was money, I flew Spirit
this post seems kinda bourgeoisie to me. i literally don’t give a fuck because we have way bigger problems. if you’re here to bitch about the amenities on an airline flight, well, i guess that must be a nice problem to have.
I for one can only complain about one problem at a time. If something’s not the biggest problem in my life, I’m incapable of addressing it.
Yeah but at least the quality of service has went from smiling attractive courteous flight attendants to snarling aisle donkeys.
Talking about service workers like that is 🚩🚩🚩
To be fair, the soda bubbles are extra Lucious at 30k feet.
This is the sort of weird back in the day post that doesn’t make sense. Boomers not understanding house prices and minimum wage, that is true.
This plane ticket stuff is wrong. For about the same cost as a ticket back in the day you get way more. In 1955, a one way transatlantic flight was roughly £5k. That’s $6.3k freedom dollars, one way. You can today buy a ticket on that type of route for half that price that includes a lie flat bed, amenities and pyjamas, 2 hot meals, unlimited snacks, unlimited drinks, lounge access on departure and arrival, priority check-in, boarding an ungodly amount of luggage, etc. And in the lounges you get free food cooked to order, free unlimited drinks, free second tier food like buffets, etc.
If you want to spend the equivalent money or a bit more, you could fly even better. You can have a private chef onboard making a meal for you anytime you want. You can take a shower in the sky. You can have a literal bedroom and attached private living room in a mini suite just for you. And that’s flying commercial.
The other side of it is that now people can also buy a ticket for $25. Which would be completely unfathomable back when civil rights weren’t a thing.
In 1955, a one way transatlantic flight was roughly £5k.
Is this already inflation adjusted or was it 5k 1955-pounds, because that would make the difference way more extreme
I adjusted it for inflation already.
Okay thanks!
Came here to write something like that. 💯
that includes a lie flat bed
That entirely depends on how tall you are. Walking through those seats on my way to have my knees crammed into the seat in front of me in coach I realized that even in first class I’m too big for an airplane.
Maybe there’s a market for a big & tall airline.
The old ones have seats with about 72in of lie flatness which is 6ft. But unless you sleep like a Victorian ghost, most people bend their knees or legs somehow. My friend that is 6ft4in has no issues and he’s tall and wide.
Most of the new ones are 76in to 82in. 6ft 10in is pretty generous. And if you need longer, there are first class seats which are full beds and you’d have no issue.
I fly in a pod every few weeks for 12hr+ flights and it’s very comfortable. I am hoping blimp travel makes a come back as I’d love to take the scenic way back with a full suite one day.
I’ve got a california king bed and frequently wake up with my feet dangling over one end and my arms over the other. I really, really doubt I’d fit on an 82 inch bed that has no space around it. And that doesn’t get into the constant light and noise and people on a plane which make it even harder for me to sleep, even if I could get comfortable.
Though many people have made it clear to me that airplanes are not supposed to be comfortable or nice, just something to endure to get to where you’re going.
Because Americans have no class consciousness
So I remember taking a flight 10 years ago and they gave us pretzel pieces from snyders. I thought, great, we don’t even get whole pretzels…
Next flight, they give us generic “trail mix” in clear bags. The kind the old folks down the street would give out at Halloween because it was “healthy.” but that contained approximately 2 pretzels the size of quarters, 3 peanuts, 3 generic m&ms, and 2 raisins…
It gave me the impression that airlines are like schools, where the flight staff are the ones bringing in the snacks because the airline is too cheap to supply them.
My teacher friends live in big houses and travel all over the world but you know whatever. I don’t.
Liar.
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No thanks, you’re probably terrible in bed.
My grandparents were both teachers and are rich. Granted one was a professor, but the other a public school teacher.
In any case, anecdotes do not and cannot disprove the actual statistics.
Also, if you live in a country that actually respects intelligence, I’d HOPE your teachers are actually paid well. Sadly, the US despises intelligence right now…
In dying rural areas in the US teachers are generally some of the best paid. Its mostly in cities where their pay lags. But no, they live in the US in LA(CA, not the state). Also, FYI just because I live in one country doesn’t mean its the same my grandparents live in.
Ahh yes, California, a state that pays more, AND in LA, where wages are WAY higher because cost of living is way higher…
Thank you for describing why your anecdote is an outlier and DEFINITELY doesn’t prove any norm.
Thank you for describing why your anecdote is an outlier and DEFINITELY doesn’t prove any norm.
Where did I say it was the norm??? You called someone a liar for giving an anecdote. Outliers do happen…
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Look at Mr. Moneybags over here, getting a drink that’s not water.
Someone clearly doesn’t understand how much it used to cost to travel by plane 50 years ago.
It was like 135 bucks for the cheapest unrestricted ticket in the usa in 1975, which comes out to around 814 bucks today. Where as I can buy a round-trip ticket right now for 220, which is the equivalent of 38 bucks in 1975.
And to really put that into perspective, an average house in 1975 cost 39k, and if you take out a 20-year lone with 9% interest, you are looking at 193 bucks per month for your rent. So a single plane ticket in 1975 was 69% of the average monthly rent for a house.
Idk why I did all this, but my adhd told me I had to.
Also this image is bullshit
Tray tables are about half that size now.
Not on longer flights. It doesn’t benefit airlines much to make smaller tray tables
I suppose I don’t take many long flights and I don’t recall how much space I had on the last long flight I had.
Typically on my domestic flights I have a tray table that won’t fit my switch if I want to stand it up.
Save on weight means save on gas. Multiply that by thousands of flights and it adds up. United printed their in flight magazines on lighter paper and saved hundreds of thousands of dollars, just by using thinner paper.
They only eliminated 5kg per 737, but that added up to $290k savings.
If anything I think it’d be even more effective on longer flights as those jets spend more time in cruise vs short haul airliners.
By using lighter paper to print their in-flight magazine, Hemisphere, United Airlines saves up to 170,000 gallons of fuel, which cuts about $290,000 in annual fuel costs.
One magazine is now one 29 g lighter and weights 195 g which will make a usual 737 plane that carries 179 passengers 5 kg lighter on average.
https://www.kiwi.com/stories/united-prints-lighter-magazine-saves-170000-gallons-fuel/
Good example, aviation is probably the most penny-fucking business in the planet, it’s a life and death fight between the companies, trying to keep costs low.
It’s a good pr thing, but they probably saved more money by using lower quality paper than the saved fuel.
United makes 50B in revenue a year. I’m guessing that stunt gave them more value in marketing than actual savings.
You clearly do not understand basic math nor how rampant greed in capitalism works. Sad.
If it saves them money, they WILL do it. (or even appears to save money)
Or do you think Scrooge types aren’t literally known for penny-pinching when they’re already rich and wouldn’t even notice the pennies going missing?
It’s a shit post
Life’s been tough since Biden dropped out, hey?
For the OP of this meme, you know you can still pay for food services on flights today, right?
Yeah but it sucks.
If you want you can go first class you know. It’s more or less as much as it was in the 50s and you get possibly even more luxury. Just be ready to pay 5k instead of a hundred bucks
Ehh…
The bottom line
Proportionally (inflation considered), flights are much cheaper now than they were 50 years ago. Consequently, flying is a more accessible mode of transport for many and has resulted in the soaring popularity of air travel, which began after deregulation. However, despite the cost drop, the base cost of flying has increased as airlines operate small profit margins and seek to remain competitive.
But back then the price was regulated so they had to compete on service.
That might have been more that 50 years now.
Would probably be better if it still was. Less people would fly.
Not everyone’s situtation is yours. There are millions of people living continents away from their family to earn money to support them.
And the “free” pretzels are also sponsored with an ad on the packaging.
Indeed, I do prefer a can of cola, some pretzels and five crisp hundred dollar notes.
Fly with turkish airlines. Business is heaven, but even economy food is good.
people would rather be assfucked by a super sonic wheel than be fingered by the TSA