- see cool video on front page
- click
- “Haha, fuck you, you’ve just clicked on the invisible button that takes up half the thumbnail like a fucking moron!”
- redirected to the sponsorship info page
- go back
- video gone
why are you completely incapable of making a functional website you wet dildo
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I’m so happy that new pipe is working again.
But… you clicked the sponsor link, thereby increasing their profits, right!? Sounds to me like the system is working as intended then:-P.
It’s not a link to a sponsor. It’s a YouTube info page about what it means for a video to have the “Contains sponsorship” tag.
That… sounds far dumber than I gave even them credit for! :-|
“Broken as designed.”
it’s an informational page about sponsors, not the actual sponsored link
they can’t even make a dark pattern right
Not just the web UX unfortunately.
I’ve given up on YouTube because of its terrible interface and just use tube archivist + Jellyfin.
The one that drives me insane is using the touchscreen on my Surface:
- Go to a channel’s page
- Click on the video tab
- Scroll through and find the video you want to watch
- Click on the video and YouTube slides to the playlist tab instead of starting the video. Every fucking time.
The UX team is almost never to blame for this shit. It’s almost always the monetization folks and PM forcing the UX team’s hand.
You can quit if you don’t like it, but the market for UX is shit right now. So you grumble and draw the dark patterns so you can pay your mortgage while you casually browse LinkedIn for a new gig.
Engineers are successful in spite of management not because of it.
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Contrary to popular belief among creatives, it is creatives job not only to do their own work, but also to keep everyone else’s hands off it.
I was a developer once, and when I was complaining that management just didn’t understand why this thing was needed, a very successful coder friend of told me “It’s your job to make them understand”.
This is why everyone needs to know politics. Part of your job, whether it’s documented or not, is to keep your boss from giving you stupid orders.
I have literally never experienced this.
Pretty much all of google products do that. I have to work with gsuite, and when you go to chat, you click on the person you want to talk to, start typing as you see the box, but then, for whatever reason, it switches to a search on the right, or bring you back to the chat home page.
On YouTube, you see a video, you click on it and then for whatever fucking reason, the video moves right and you click on a dumb ad or a video you don’t want to watch. Go back once and the video isn’t there anymore.
It’s a shit show
it’s not that they’re “completely incapable of making a functional website”. It’s that making a good website might take traffic away from their apps, where they have more power to collect metrics and bypass ad blocking.
Wouldn’t that require the app the a better experience?
According to the guys down in analytics, the worse the app is the more money we make
UX has seemingly disappeared across the web unfortunately. Sites just change things for the sake of it.
I’m convinced that almost all of the frustrating shit that corporations dump down on us comes from weekly staff meetings where some suckup climber just wants to tell the boss hey look, we did a shiny new thing! A thing nobody wanted or asked for. Line must go up.
That’s literally how google works. They want everyone “innovating” and changing shit constantly. Got a new idea for a thing? Roll with it. Gmail is a different name now? Roll with it! Massive UI change for no.discernable reason? You’d better believe you’re gonna be told to roll that out, and someone else will take your place and change shit again shortly.
Google is very annoying at times. I’m fine with constantly trying NEW stuff out but I hate it when they break (or make worse) popular stuff that’s widely used and people have come to depend on it. I feel like Microsoft is the absolute worst in this regard, but Google is really up there, too. I wish there could be a sea change where the “culture” (or whatever it’s properly called) shifts back towards putting a lot of value on reliability and resilience and less on gee-whiz crap. I don’t think it’s likely to happen, but I can dream. I’m old enough to remember when people really demanded this from their vehicles and that’s why Japanese cars started kicking American carmakers’ asses.
I haven’t adopted a Google technology since 2010, that’s when I got my first Android phone. They have such a terrible track record with discontinuing projects that I just don’t trust them with the time cost of adoption.
Paycheck justification.
They don’t change things just for the sake of it. They change things so they can point at it and say, “look what I did! I deserve a promotion!”
Value-adders.
Sadly it’s like that because the money people A/B test things to make the numbers go up.
web 1.0 was superior; it was all downhill from there.
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But, for that to work, as a company, you have to actually care about the user. Shareholders and project goals are what they care about. Well. Mostly shareholders.
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You’re not Paul Singer screwing up Southwest. https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2024/07/25/southwest-assigned-seats-red-eye-flights-more/
This is why you don’t go public.
The TV UI is worse, especially the search. It only shows 10-12 videos related to what you actually searched. The rest are suggestions.
The TV UI is horrible and has negative development: Less features and more bugs every release.
Do you want to go to a video’s channel? Well, that depends on where you are:
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Go to Home.
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Long-press on a video.
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Press “Go to channel”.
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Go to Subscriptions.
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Long-press on a video.
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Fewer options because fuck you.
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Start the video, press down, up, right, select.
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Oh, it was a short video? You fell into the trap! Down goes to another video. Go back, select the video again, press right, right, select.
And that’s just one example.
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I’ve raged at the incompetent UX design so many times, like recently when I was trying to add videos to the currently playlist in a certain order, since you can’t reorder yourself. The mini player blocked the controls I needed for the last item on the page, but closing the player wiped out the playlist. Cue scream of rage and a few choice words at volume.
They’re just doing what they’re paid to do.
What they’re paid to do is increase ad exposure to drive as revenue and YT premium subscriptions.
General public UX is a distant tertiary goal, in terms of what’s actually on the Jira board (or whatever they use).
How the hell does getting redirected to this page drive any kind of exposure?
You need to understand that most software engineers are treated like code monkeys these days, and very often get overruled by product people going “idgaf just do the thing I said in the ticket”.
Source: am software engineer, and have been for about a decade and a half
I worked at Lowe’s and our method of searching for products was the same as a customer’s: the website.
But the website’s search is designed to always return something.
This means if you search for something we don’t have, it would just show you some random shit.
For some reason this infuriated me. I was always apologizing to customers for our terrible UX.
Piped
- NewPipe
- Tubular
- GrayJay
- YouTube Revanced
- Firefox for mobile with ublock origin.
- Brave browser mobile are all options you can use instead of Google’s garbage.
- Those are mobile apps
- They have no effect on the website
- The issue is present on the desktop website
- Adblock does not remove the button in question without a custom cosmetic filter
- I’m already using Newpipe and Revanced, and block all ads on mobile and desktop (rude of you to assume otherwise)
Freetube is the app for the desktop platforms. It got some issues with the latest Google attempts to block the 3td party apps, but they’re working on the new releases fast
There is a similar desktop app: https://freetubeapp.io/
My apologies then. I misunderstood the issue. What button are you talking about if you could elaborate a little more!
When you hover the mouse over the thumbnail of a video that contains sponsored content, the preview starts playing (which is another separate gripe I have) and new buttons slowly fade in. One of those is a hyperlink to an information page about sponsorships that takes up the upper half of the thumbnail’s area. The problem is that those buttons are present and clickable as soon as the preview starts, but invisible for about half a second. Clicking on what appears to be the thumbnail might take you to a different page, and navigating back to the front page refreshes the suggestions.
This sounds new to me. I’ve never actually seen this. I do know about the hover over the video makes it play, but that’s all I know about. Nothing else happens when I hover over the thumbnail beside the video playing. Maybe because I use UBlock Origin and “Enhancer for YouTube” extensions on Firefox?
It’s not on every video, only those that have sponsored content, and it’s entirely possible that it only happens in jurisdictions where disclosure is required and enforced.
