• takeda@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Sadly being good at governing doesn’t mean being good at running in an election.

    I was hoping that people could see trump presidency vs Biden presidency and see the difference, but it looks like that’s not enough.

    Having said that, I hope Kamala will be as good or even better than Biden in governing.

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      3 months ago

      It’s almost impossible for her to be worse than Biden, so you’re good.

      I was hoping that people could see trump presidency vs Biden presidency and see the difference, but it looks like that’s not enough.

      Correct, there wasn’t enough of a difference between Biden and trump

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        3 months ago

        I did not vote for Biden in 2020 primaries, but he positively surprised me. He actually does an excellent job at governing, but very poor at broadcasting his accomplishments. He managed to pass some progressive bills in such a partisan environment. Managed to unite West, reunite NATO and even expand it by additional 2 members who originally were neutral.

        Recovered US from covid pandemic, with lowest inflation in the West. Avoided recession, the US economy has the lowest unemployment.

        You’re just repeating GOP disinformation without concrete examples.

        He actually is on the road to be ranked as one of the best presidents.

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          3 months ago

          He managed to pass some progressive bills in such a partisan environment.

          No.

          Congress was able to pass some bills that were a little progressive.

          Biden just signed them instead of vetoing, which is something literally every other person with a D by their name would do.

          Biden was very vocal about how changing anyone in congress’s mind on literally anything, so he doesn’t get to take credit like some magical.puppet master who made it happen.

          And the bounceback after COVID…

          How much of that was an executive action Biden made happen?

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            3 months ago

            Boy you’re still up the b b b Biden bad! stuff huh. He pushed for things from Congress and he got them through when he had the house of reps and Senate. Yes he does get credit.

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            I mean day one he signed several executive orders. He personally killed the keystone pipeline. I believe he was also personally responsible for us rejoining NATO and the Paris accords. He has done a lot of good work.

            The only things I’m aware of that he has done poorly is his handling of Israel, and his inability to be uncivilized. He should’ve called trump and the rest of the Republicans out on their bullshit and publicly shamed them every step along the way.

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              He personally killed the keystone pipeline. I believe he was also personally responsible for us rejoining NATO and the Paris accords.

              he’s also personally blocking through tariffs truly affordable green energy products from entering this country; especially EV’s and solar power using the inflation act; and has ramped up fossil fuel products to the highest levels this country has ever seen in its entire history.

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                As for your first point, I believe he created a tariff, he did not block imports. And can you provide a source for your second claim? I’ve not heard that statistic before.

                Edit: and to be clear, yeah his tariff sucks ass but it might be good long term because it will help shift American production to greener products instead of just offloading that to green products made elsewhere and shipped here dirtily.

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                  3 months ago

                  yeah his tariff sucks ass but it might be good long term because it will help shift American production to greener products instead of just offloading that to green products made elsewhere

                  that’s not happening; detroit and silicon valley are not responding because daddy biden and kamala are giving them all the sugar they want and they’ll continue to get it as evidenced by both obama and reagan’s similar bailouts and continuing american subsidies through tax dollars; neither detroit nor silican valley have changed their tunes and have no plans to do so as they did in the past.

                  here’s a source on the recent fossil fuel records

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                    By offering to subsidize r&d into Green tech, as well as subsidize the development and deployment of that tech, the tech becomes more economically viable than fossil fuels, assuming you don’t subsidize them. Companies will switch to the most economically feasible option, that’s just how capitalism works. Biden doesn’t have the ability to just outlaw fossil fuels, so the most he can do is push the economics towards Green tech.

                    And thanks for the source, it seems your claim is correct.

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      3 months ago

      I was hoping that people could see trump presidency vs Biden presidency and see the difference, but it looks like that’s not enough.

      The masses unfortunately don’t vote off platform, they vote off feelings.