Dude I live in Ohio and see the confederate flag on porches. OHIO!!! I’m so far north in Cleveland that only a lake seperates me from Canada!!!
We were NEVER part of the confederacy! And once you leave Cleveland area, into the rural farmlands, its all confederate flags and trump flags.
That should tell you everything you need to know.
That should tell you everything you need to know.
That morons live everywhere.
Iowa here, same thing. This state has a very progressive history, but that’s being erased at lightning speed
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Anyone now seeing how some people are slowly converting their house into like a campaign collage with these Trump banners printed on corrugated plastic.
Yes, and I live north of the Canadian border. They seem to think Trump is a viable alternative to Trudeau.
Was at the musuem in Gettysburg recently and the amount of Confederate flag hats/shirts I saw was wild. I’m sure the contents of the museum would’ve upset them if they could read
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Is your dad still around? Maybe he was holding them at bay.
His dad sounds like a good man. I’d like to shake his hand. Or if thats not an option, salute his headstone.
The US imported a LOOOT of Nazis to get access to research - Operation Paperclip. So Nazis in government jobs given immunity
It makes a lot of sense how that bled out
Paperclip is the hangout for Operation Bloodstone.
You can lie and say nazis like Werner Von Braun were actually apolitical smol beans who just wanted to do science, you can’t even pretend random commanders and officers were.
Woo, I learn more horrifying things every day!
The answer is simple. We are expanding the definition of, and redefining, Nazis. I’m familiar with the general ideology of the group & how we might classify thoughts as adjacent, but I don’t see Republicans shoving Jews, homosexuals, special needs, and gypsies into concentration camps/gas chambers/ovens.
It’s hard to draw lines. But I’m just going to shoot from the hip here & say, it seems to me like there’s a group of people that wants not only all kinds of freedoms. But also recognition. Accolades. Worship. Dominance in the public space. Anyone that opposes this stupid agenda -yes, agenda- is a Nazi. So we equate Republicans & conservatives with murderous fuckheads that genocide entire groups of minorities. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Yep, it’s the same picture, totally the same thing, your beliefs are correct & your so-called righteous indignation is justified. We call them all Nazis, historically the worst kind of people, which of course justifies any kind of hatred or violence in response.
Shoot Trump in the head. It’s more than okay, we celebrate assassination attempts, because he’s literally Cheeto Hitler. He’s the death of duhmoocracy. Please kill Donald Trump. If he’s elected, it’s the end of the United States of America, there will be no more elections. He will be a dictator, he’ll never leave, duhmoocracy will be gone forever. No more duhmoocracy. Whatever will happen to America…if we lose our precious duhmoocracy? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I want every American to analyze the situation, logically. Consider what is best for the United States. Getting back to the main discussion: look back at the Nazis in Nazi Germany & everything they did. Are genocidal German Nazis actually making a comeback? Or are we just…labeling everybody we don’t like a Nazi & therefore (grossly, stupidly) expanding the definition of Nazi to conveniently demonize the other side?
Ew. A nazi sympathizer.
Your take is fucking stupid & not based in fact. Nazi sympathizer? Please explain how I sympathize with Nazis.
please explain - spoken like a nazi sympathizer.
Deflecting. That’s kind of weird, but not surprising.
that’s not what deflecting is… but that was.
I don’t care about your worthless nazi opinion.
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The more you overuse (and misuse) a term, the less it means.
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FWIW I don’t respect you at all, either.
The more you overuse a term, the less it means.
You’re just mad because people noticed. Don’t pollute my inbox again.
I am not mad, you still fail to define how I am a Nazi (because you & everyone else knows your premise is bullshit), and you certainly don’t have the authority to tell me what to do. So go fuck yourself. Or don’t, nobody cares.
I am not mad, you still fail to define how I am a Nazi
No one owes you an explanation, and I’m not going to waste my time arguing semantics with a nazi. If you want more out of me, go upstairs and ask your parents what it’s like to live with disappointment.
Trump is called a fascist not because of his conservative/traditional rhetoric. In fact none of the alt-right are THAT conservative. I mean, Trump himself is a pretty liberal cosmopolitan playboy.
The accusation stems from his lack of respect for democracy, rule of law and his fascist behavior. Trumpism is a fascist cult in all aspects. The movement has no real coherent ideological basis. It’s literally a cult of personality surrounding Trump.
Here we go. 🙂 FTR, I classify Trump as… Old-school Democrat, Left+1. If you will. He supports the right for abortion, which is unthinkable for hardcore Republicans. Those crazy-ass single issue voters. AKA, morons.
First sentence of paragraph two I suspect is colored by your political leanings… The rest tbh holds some merit, but what’s the alternative? Braindead Biden to the moon?? Oh wait nevermind, now it’s totally Kamala,
the person everybody despised & ridiculed until 5 minutes agothe blessed Savior of duhmoocracy, the best & brightest (lol) to be the leader of the free world.I readily admit, Trump isn’t our best. But without 8 years of Obama, there wouldn’t be a Trump, and without a Trump there wouldn’t be a Biden, and here we are again & Biden is so fucking gone. Everybody knew it. Somebody wanted Trump dead, because he actually has a chance of winning, if he didn’t an attempt wouldn’t be made.
So now it’s Kamala (lol) vs Trump. My odds are on Trump unless some loser tried to murder him. Again. Kamala has no successes or record to stand on; she’s an embarrassment. And a socialist. But I repeat myself. 🙃
The American public is forced to choose between two radically different candidates. Neither is close to ideal.
I will close with saying I respect you for honest discourse, not an anonymous downvote or saying any of the following I’ve gotten recently: “Lol”, “You are the yikes”, or “I am so totally persecuted for identifying as a super special limited edition pansexual glow in the dark holographic yo-yo, and I refuse to elaborate any further on substantial details that back up my claims to victimhood. I’m just going to post some random-ass claim to make you feel bad & illegitimately claim a moral high ground”.
Trumpism has culty aspects. Agreed. But the alternative is Kamala Harris. Not choosing Trump means choosing Harris. Just another election cycle of choosing between two very different, not ideal extremes.
lol
What’s a shame is that, for all of your words, you seem to know very little about WW2 and Nazi Germany. You’ve reduced it all to basically a straw man so you can win an argument no-one is making. Honestly, if I was a nazi, I’d be insulted by your reductivism. As someone against nazis, it’s insulting too.
In the end, it’s a lot of words to say you’re a) ignorant as hell and b) probably qualify as a nazi
Can I get a yikes
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you are the yikes.
Okay.
Damn, your wall of text got removed for some reason. You worked so hard on it, too.
You still don’t have an answer, just the smallest smartass responses. Looks like you’re known for them. Your life appears to be…very small. Maybe you should try working harder. 🙃
You’re sad, and I am sad for you.
Grow up and speak like an adult
Okay, go fuck yourself. Done.
Ah yes the side that calls me a pedophile (and just by sheer luck wants to give all sex offenders who commit crimes against children mind you). Great answer, both sides are obviously the same.
…idk about your personal situation that is calling for labeling you a pedophile. I have a friend that technically qualifies for indecent exposure in public/sex offender, he needed to take a drunk piss at 1 AM, so in spirit I empathize. Common sense screams, more clarification is needed for sure.
Existing as a trans person. Literally nothing else.
More context is needed. You existing as a trans person doesn’t bother me at all, 0%. I have no interest in continuing debate if you are being persecuted for existing as a trans person.
Have you literally looked at republican rhetoric? They call queer peope (even more so trans women) groomers because their bigoted asses need to create a culture war. There literally is no context needed it is just the literal rhetoric they spout.
I am looking at it almost every day. Ngl you’ve picked a terrible time to have this conversation as everyone is going wild over Ava Kris Tyson and all the alleged inappropriate messages he sent to minors, etc. Lot of weird stuff there. 😅
There’s sexual abuse of children everywhere. Epstein Island, right? And idc if you’re gay, straight, trans, white, black, brown, etc. All abusers should be accountable.
I would argue there’s no need to create a culture war; we are in one. Right now & probably since 2012-ish. It’s wishful thinking on my part, but we really need to come together as a nation. Restore law, order, and decency. Find things we can agree on instead of tearing everybody down. If we can’t do that, I don’t think we’re going to make it.
Its been a long slow boil. And Nazis were only part of the problem. In the early 1930s many businessmen and Republicans in the US plotted a Hitler style coup against FDR. They did worse than Hitler, but escaped most consequences. And over the last century quietly plotted and built. Here and abroad. Fostering the “right kind” of fascism. Theirs.
It probably would have gone on a little longer. Because I don’t think they were quite ready to actually try to coup again. But they’ve been socially engineering a new class of supremely manipulable Voters who lack any critical thinking skills. However a childish malignant narcissist managed to get the attention of that tool. And stole it from the Republican fascist. Basically largely spoiling the plot. And causing them to have to move before they were ready.
Also the ability for instance Global and often still largely Anonymous communication made propaganda easier and cheaper than ever before. The old style leaflet drops over territories were never very effective. And even radio broadcasts or easy to thwart. Now enemy Nations only need to pay a few people for online shitposting in hot beds lacking critical thinking. And they can turn their enemies people into their own tools.
Are you serious they pay people to troll? Kind of make me wonder how much and is it even worth it.
Definitely. In a lot of developing countries with basic internet access these people can actually make good livings doing that. As long as they’re skill in the foreign language is adequate enough. Though today a lot of that is being taken over by basic low-end generative machine learning models. Something else false information faster than it takes to debunk it.
So if I learn a couple languages and put a post on craiglist that I am a willing troll. I will get hired?
Not unless you live in a country with a low standard and cost of living. And not likely even then. Because even at a Payday they generally work ed for larger businesses and weren’t a freelance Craigslist sort of thing. That and here in the United States there’s too much free competition to really be effective for them to pay anyone over here as well.
Funny that you mention payday and am sitting here in the hospital eating one.
I hope you’re having your head checked!
Short version: the Nazis lost but the fascists won.
WWII basically ended in fascists vs fascists - Nazi Germany pulled a lot of their ideas from the US and before Pearl Harbor the US stance was ambivalent. They thought Hitler had some good points, but it would be OK if he lost.
To give an intellectually honest guess, I’d say the honest among them think that form of socialism is the best way to handle resources and that violent revolution is the only way to get there effectively. The dishonest among them likely just wanna exploit the rest of them.
Yea but what happens if the succeed in a violent revolution. Then the other side comes along and overthrow them?
With another violent revolution? Iunno. Ask those guys.
Wouldn’t really be violent we just take back the government then put them on trial for the world to see.
But how?
With peaceful violence
The Nazis called themselves “national-socialists”, because socialism was popular at the time. Anyone who actually wanted socialism would have voted for the social-democratic party (SPD) or the communist party (KPD). The actual politics of the NSDAP were very much focused on the nationalist, xenophobic part. You just rarely have the baddies calling themselves “the baddies party”.
But what about the dudes doing it today?
The dudes doing socialism are socialists. The dudes doing racist and inhumane shit are nazis.
Do the Nazis even have a cover story at this point?
I hate to be negative, but people have shown a propensity to dislike anyone not like them for thousands of years. Plain and simple. I think this situation can improve, but I doubt seriously, it will ever go away completely.
I kind of wish I knew how to troll nazi’s or call them out irl or just make them change the narrative. I know I am one woman but if I went about it correctly and got more people smarter than me we can shut their stupid shit down.
billionaires are so afraid of being taxed they’ll happily fund people and groups who want to kill people who want to tax them.
The real billionaires love taxation. It helps them getting rid of the competition.
capitalism. fascism is the logical conclusion of capitalism, so the entire world living in a capitalist society helps fascism rise. if you crush people’s spirits hard enough, you can give them easy solutions to their problems so they can get off your scent.
no no, the billionaires are awesome; it’s the immigrants honey. the education system would be awesome if not for drag queens baby. you would have healthcare but see it’s all the DEI hire sweetie.
it’s just lizard brain shit. “brown people bad” is just an easier and more convenient message to digest than trying to understand how the government and the economy actually works.
Sigh. One could also make the argument that capitalism is the only reason we have democracy at all. I am not allergic to socialist thinking, but putting all the blame on capitalism for everything is intellectually lazy.
I doubt the person you’re replying to would disagree that the advent of capitalism is in fact what brought liberal democracy into existence. The point though is that such progress is unsustainable under a capitalist system and that it will result in various crises, war, and fascism. Therefore we do need to find a way to move past capitalism if we want even the possibility of creating a better world.
I mean no sarcasm in this but you seem very knowledgeable do you got any links or something to support it because I love reading.
Not OP, but maybe the following: “The Mass Psychology of Fascism” by Wilhelm Reich provides an analysis of the psychological appeal of fascism, examining how economic conditions and capitalist societies create environments where fascist ideologies can thrive.
Severely undereducated selfish people who think all of their problems is someone else’s or some other tribe’s fault.
Almost all Nazis share one common trait: a complete lack of empathy.
And almost all American Nazis share two additional traits: no critical thinking skills and gullibility.
In your opinion would you consider the orange face dipshit a nazi?
He shares traits with them. But no, he’s an 8 year old boy trapped in a 78 year old body trying to compensate for his tiny penis and no balls. He will use Nazis just like he uses everyone. As the other commenter said, he’s a con artist and grifter.
When he’s long dead, aside from a footnote in American history books stating he was the worst president since Buchanan, he will be forgotten. Of course this can’t come soon enough.
You didn’t ask me but I’ll respond. I would call him an opportunist. If it benefits him to attract nazis, he will. He doesn’t seem to have any political leaning. He is a conman.
most of people lack criticall thinking skill
There have always been susceptible idiots.
Nazi’s are just a byproduct of an eroding standard of living. When things are good and getting better, there just isn’t the fertile ground for that kind of ideology, even among the idiots.
When standard of living is on the decline? Anyone who gives a simple answer and a simple solution gets the attention of idiots.
It reminds me of and I don’t know where I read it at but there was this guy who was trying to sell his pet rock in Africa. And told the buyer it keeps lions away. The buyer asked how does it work. The seller simply told him you do not see any lions do you and the buyer bought it.
It could be a joke that’s been around forever, but I know it from The Simpsons: https://youtu.be/4GzMizVAl-0
It could be a joke that’s been around forever
FWIW, I think I remember Bert and Ernie doing this in Sesame Street, though I can’t seem to find a clip at the moment.
My dad fought the Nazi’s they lost
“Oh I’m sorry. How did they die?”
“Die? No, we lost them. And now we cannot find them”
“Oh there they are! Right there!”
Millions of people died from COVID yet look how many denied its effects (and still do) and didn’t/don’t get vaccinated. Because it wasn’t happening to them right there in their faces (and in some cases it was and they still denied it on their death beds). If people can’t even learn from that as it happened in real time all around them, what hope do we have for people to care about and learn from things that happened 80-90 years ago?
