"I want somebody who's really strongly pro-labor and understands labor, because this is a big part of the working-class agenda and making sure that we win working-class votes," Rep. Pramila Jayapal said in supporting Walz.
Shapiro might legitimately cost her MI and WI, and even MN. His response to the student protests over Gaza was extreme and brutish. 20% of MI voted undecided on Biden almost exclusively because of his position on Gaza. You need to signal to the voters you are going in a different direction and put those points back on the board.
Shapiro looks like more of the same ME policy as before. I’d say if you go Shapiro you bring PA to 50/50 odds but you now lose MI and maybe even WI, and MN even comes into play. If you don’t lock up MN/ WI/ MI, just go home because you’ve lost at that point.
Yeah again, and this is what bnmw and blue maga never seemed to get.
This isn’t about Trump. It never was.
That’s not how you get Democratic voters out to vote, even if you wish it was.
Trump is a known quantity; fully defined. Biden tried to make this a referendum on Trump and it was fucking disasterous, and damn near handed Trump the election. You have to actually give voters a fucking reason to show up for you.
And there in lies the problem and opportunity for Democrats. Political wisdom says shoot for the center of mass. Shapiro meets that in rhetoric only. We’re buttering at the edges, but Shapiro doesn’t get you a specific cohort of voter in a specific state. He has been strong against Israel in rhetoric only. He doesn’t represent a true separation of policy from Biden
Democrats would be under performing about 10% across the board if Biden was still the nominee. It’s hard to put into words how monumentally stupid and idiotic it was to stick with Biden as long as we did. Anyone who promoted Biden as anything other than a fucking disaster for the previous nine months should be considered a paraiah and dutifully ignored for the damage they did, basically indefinitely. If it wasn’t for the damage caused by Blue Maga, the choice would be obvious. These states shouldn’t be on the table and yet here we are.
Right now PA is more of a long shot and if you don’t step towards a principaled stance on Israel Gaza, you don’t win back the upper Midwest, or at a minimum, you leave them still in play. PA is more of a wild card and it’s not clear to me that Shapiro gets you that state. If you go Walz, you lock up those three states and give your self breathing room as a campaign to actually campaign in states like PA, GA, NC. You pick Shapiro and now you’ve got three more states that are up for grabs.
Shapiro might legitimately cost her MI and WI, and even MN. His response to the student protests over Gaza was extreme and brutish. 20% of MI voted undecided on Biden almost exclusively because of his position on Gaza. You need to signal to the voters you are going in a different direction and put those points back on the board.
Shapiro looks like more of the same ME policy as before. I’d say if you go Shapiro you bring PA to 50/50 odds but you now lose MI and maybe even WI, and MN even comes into play. If you don’t lock up MN/ WI/ MI, just go home because you’ve lost at that point.
You think Shapiro is disliked enough relative to Trump to move the needle much?
Yeah again, and this is what bnmw and blue maga never seemed to get.
This isn’t about Trump. It never was.
That’s not how you get Democratic voters out to vote, even if you wish it was.
Trump is a known quantity; fully defined. Biden tried to make this a referendum on Trump and it was fucking disasterous, and damn near handed Trump the election. You have to actually give voters a fucking reason to show up for you.
And there in lies the problem and opportunity for Democrats. Political wisdom says shoot for the center of mass. Shapiro meets that in rhetoric only. We’re buttering at the edges, but Shapiro doesn’t get you a specific cohort of voter in a specific state. He has been strong against Israel in rhetoric only. He doesn’t represent a true separation of policy from Biden
Democrats would be under performing about 10% across the board if Biden was still the nominee. It’s hard to put into words how monumentally stupid and idiotic it was to stick with Biden as long as we did. Anyone who promoted Biden as anything other than a fucking disaster for the previous nine months should be considered a paraiah and dutifully ignored for the damage they did, basically indefinitely. If it wasn’t for the damage caused by Blue Maga, the choice would be obvious. These states shouldn’t be on the table and yet here we are.
Right now PA is more of a long shot and if you don’t step towards a principaled stance on Israel Gaza, you don’t win back the upper Midwest, or at a minimum, you leave them still in play. PA is more of a wild card and it’s not clear to me that Shapiro gets you that state. If you go Walz, you lock up those three states and give your self breathing room as a campaign to actually campaign in states like PA, GA, NC. You pick Shapiro and now you’ve got three more states that are up for grabs.