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“Biden realized that Netanyahu was lying to him about the hostages,” the official told Haaretz. “He’s not saying it publicly yet, but in the meeting between them, he specifically told him, ‘Stop bullshitting me.’”
On Friday, a senior member of the Israeli negotiating team told Haaretz that Israeli defense chiefs believe Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is not interested in a hostage deal/cease-fire with Hamas. Israel’s Channel 12 also reported on a tense exchange between Netanyahu and the defense chiefs, in which Shin Bet head Ronen Bar said, “It feels like the prime minister doesn’t want the framework that’s on the table.” Turning to Netanyahu, he added that if that is the case, “you should tell us.”
Mossad chief David Barnea stressed to Netanyahu, “There is a deal on the table. If we delay, we could miss the opportunity. We have to take it.” Netanyahu, per the report, reacted angrily, accusing the defense chiefs of being “soft.”
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i hope he has his aides ready to tell him “duh doy” on this realization.
CIA who probably warned him ages ago
In diplomacy it’s critical to give your allies enough rope to hang themselves.
Yeah it’s the rope that’s he’s used to kill 40,000 Palestinians I’m more worried about. If that’s a price someone is willing to pay for political calculus then they’re bad people.
200,000 according to the Lancet medical journal.
Now that’s a meme I’ve not seen in a long time. A long time.
So he should pull support from him
Really, Biden just noticed the lying? No way the president is that obtuse.
So sick of my tax dollars going to these ungrateful fucks who dishonor their ancestors by partaking in exactly what they themselves went through.
Comparing this war with the Holocaust is stupid. Even if you ignore the numbers, the situation itself is completely different. Palestinians are armed, hostile and a threat. German Jews were just harmless citizens, some even being in the German army, defending the country.
I can tell you’re an expert on stupid
Did you really even think this through like at all?
Believing leveling the civilian infrastructure and killing vast segments of families won’t lead to further radicalization and terrorism is stupid.
Believing Israel can’t protect its borders if it actually read its own intelligence reports and committed even half the number of IDF to its 20-mile border as it did to this offensive is stupid.
Believing attacking Gaza actually resolves the problem or even deals with the larger nations feeding those terrorists is stupid.
Believing Bibi actually cares and isn’t just trying to wage an imperial conquest while trying to avoid ongoing criminal trials in Israel is stupid.
Believing executing 4 women and children for 1 Hamas operative is worth it is fundamentally stupid.
Ok, cool.
How does anything you wrote have anything to do with what I wrote? Like, at all?
They had 75 years to make peace. As the party with constant military supremacy and backing of the hegemonic power, the onus was on them to make it work. But we’ve known for decades that Israel’s leaders sabotaged the so called “peace process” and only wished to foster more hostility so they of leverage their military superiority.
Good thing both sides have been breeding child soldiers like crazy so they both can have the blood orgy they crave so much.
We just want to forget this cursed land of hate exists, is that so much to ask?
A. Who talked about peace? Who talked about who’s at fault? Read again what I wrote. All I said is that the situation is vastly different. This conflict requires peace to be made, the Holocaust wasn’t a conflict, but a straight up slaughter.
B. Israeli child soldiers are news to me… There are plenty of photos of Hamas marching with children with weapons, but none that I know of from the Israeli side
And yeah, I 100% agree that land just shouldn’t exist and that’s it.
Who talked about peace ? Everyone who has been trying to make us swallow this shit for the entire duration of since the UN’s original sin.
Child soldiers ? I mean the Haredim breeders. Like most war religions, there is heavy emphasis on breeding child soldiers to outswarm the heathen invaders out of the righteous land they occupy.
I was more riffing after your comment than responding to it.
The whole affair disgusts me to the highest degree.
I think multicellular life was a mistake, a hellish evolutionary dead end.
Saying Haredim and Soldiers in the same sentence is pretty stupid, considering all they do is study the Torah all day every day. I guess you meant the religious zionists movement, which are settlers and violent and should really be boycotted by every human alive.
I know a positive eugenics program when I see one. In this kind of war, what count is body count.
Palestinians will get shot on site if going outside with a knife. Settlementers keep snipers on them consistently. Not just on Gazans.
I mean, if by “going outside” you mean - “crossing the Israeli border illegally” - then yes. They will get shot on site. I still don’t see how this has any comparison with the Holocaust.
No, I mean going from their house to their neighbors.
Another pictorial example of Bibi shitting hits pants on purpose.
Let Iran bomb the shit out of them a few days before calling for a cease fire.
And then claim the ceasefire deal is terrible even though it gets you exactly what you claim to want.
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Is there anything that this not doesn’t call “center left”? May as well replace it with a sticky note.
They are lying to you about it, they always knew
Gee, what could have possibly clued Biden into the fact that Netenyahu was being disingenuous? Could it possibly have been the fact that after every time they spoke, Bibi would immediately go on-air in Israeli press and brag about what a little removed Biden is and how he’s completely in Bibi’s pocket? Could that have been a sign?!
Israel blows up the guy they’re negotiating a ceasefire with.
Biden: “Hm… I’m starting to think this guy is not being entirely honest about wanting a peace…”
We should back away from Israel. We have absolutely no legitimate business with them and they bring nothing to the table.
Israel offers no unique military logistics, as we already have full access to the region via neighboring installations. They offer no substantial business to the U.S. They bring only strained relations with neighboring countries, with whom we have much more lucrative business ties.
It’s time to back away from this toxic, one-sided relationship. It’s time for Israel to be diplomatic with their neighbors instead of starting wars they want the U.S. to win for them.
But if something were to happen to Israel, the death cult can’t continue to try to kickstart the rapture so we can go to the mcdonald’s playplace in the sky.
They offer no substantial business to the U.S.
Israel does offer substantial business to the US and that is surveillance technology.
A discussion of surveillance within Israel would be incomplete without a confrontation with political economy and the development of security technologies. Neve Gordon (2009) argues that the ‘Israeli experience’, in its various manifestations, has played a pivotal role in the formation of Israel’s homeland security industry and its subsequent transformation into a global success story. The innovations in security and military technologies developed in Israeli laboratories have also facilitated the increased ‘virtual occupation’ of Gaza since the ‘Disengagement Plan’ (Sperotto 2010). Israel’s ‘separation barrier’, widely cited as a violation of Palestinian human rights, is premised on an array of sniper towers, electric fences, trenches, cameras, sensors, patrol roads, ditches, and military patrols (International Court of Justice 2004; B’Tselem 2006; International Federation for Human Rights 2004) – a blend of technological devises and various surveillance techniques developed in Israel.
What these political-economic perspectives on surveillance offer is a ‘made in Israel’ approach to the development of security strategies and methodologies, as well as the construction of a surveillance apparatus that is deployed in Israel, the OPT, and abroad by purchasers of this know-how. The IDF’s recent upgrades to the Gaza fence is noteworthy, considering the interface between the military through the newly-upgraded Combat Collection Corps, the network of intelligence agents working within Gaza, surveillance technologies, and national security policies determined to enforce iron clad borders (Katz 2010). This provides a testing ground of sorts for military strategy, technology, and border policies that could effectively be adapted for use outside of Israel. In 2006, Elbit Systems was awarded a contract, along with Boeing, to build the security wall on the U.S.-Mexican border (World War 4 Report 2006). Because of the international public acclaim that accompanies Israel’s defence industry, Israeli-based firms, as well as foreign companies that contribute to the country’s security apparatus, such as Motorola, Elbit, Boeing and others, have become targets of the transnational boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) campaign (Macdonald 2010; New York Campaign for the Boycott of Israel n.d.; The Council on Ethics 2009; Cattatori 2009; Campaign Against U.S. Terror Weapons n.d.), which constitute the central internationalist non-violent movement against Israel’s illegal military occupation of Palestinian territory and continuous defiance of international law (see Bakan and Abu-Laban 2009).
Israel tests it’s surveillance technology on Palestine, then exports that technology to other countries.
Could also use this pokemon meme
Why not use Netanyahu as a hostage?
“All you middle-east countries need to work together peacefully, or I will release Netanyahu unharmed.”
Any bets on whether this will change anything? I mean yeah, it doesn’t seem likely and the prevailing opinion seems to be “fuck no”, but I have no idea how informed that opinion is.
This specifically? Probably not just because Biden only has a few months left. But I think we’re going to see a generational change in attitude from future presidents. Israel better get their shit together before that happens.
Out of curiosity, what is Harris’ stance on Israel? I’m from YUROP and I don’t actually know very much about her policy positions
She says Israel has a right to defend itself but civilian impact has to be considered. Should be easy to find on YouTube.
So far pretty lockstep with Biden. No concrete signs of improvement yet just some lip service.
Her track record is pretty bad as well she fought for illegal israeli settlements.
Soon after being elected to the Senate in 2016, Harris earned a reputation as an ardent defender of Israel. She spoke two years in a row at AIPAC conferences and co-sponsored legislation aimed at undermining a United Nations resolution condemning Israel’s illegal annexation of Palestinian land. One of her first international trips as a senator was to Israel where she met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in 2017. “I support the United States’ commitment to provide Israel with $38 billion in military assistance over the next decade,” Harris told an AIPAC conference that year. “I believe the bonds between the United States and Israel are unbreakable, and we can never let anyone drive a wedge between us. … As long as I’m a United States senator, I will do everything in my power to ensure broad and bipartisan support for Israel’s security and right to self-defense.”
Regardless of what she is saying now as a candidate her actual policy will be the exact same as Biden’s.
She will ensure the American taxpayers continue to fund the genocide while pretending that she is giving Israel government a stern talking too.
She will also have confused pikachu face when Israel continues to lie to her once she is in office.
