lemmy.billiam.net
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • Create Community
  • heart
    Support Lemmy
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
return2ozma@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 10 months ago

Trump accepts RFK Jr endorsement and vows to release JFK assassination files

www.theguardian.com

external-link
message-square
74
link
fedilink
  • cross-posted to:
  • [email protected]
192
external-link

Trump accepts RFK Jr endorsement and vows to release JFK assassination files

www.theguardian.com

return2ozma@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 10 months ago
message-square
74
link
fedilink
  • cross-posted to:
  • [email protected]
Ex-president takes stage with Kennedy in Arizona, hours after independent candidate suspends White House bid
alert-triangle
You must log in or register to comment.
  • Media Bias Fact Checker@lemmy.worldB
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    10 months ago
    The Guardian - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)

    Information for The Guardian:

    MBFC: Left-Center - Credibility: Medium - Factual Reporting: Mixed - United Kingdom
    Wikipedia about this source

    Search topics on Ground.News

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/23/trump-arizona-rally–rfk-jr

    Media Bias Fact Check | bot support

  • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    10 months ago

    deleted by creator

    • TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      https://youtu.be/j2d6T5G2rrY?si=GLm3Uzx8ibe8HfdE

    • return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      10 months ago

      Spoiler alert! Jeez! We wanted to wait for Trump to release what really happened. /s

    • ABCDE@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      10 months ago

      …

    • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      10 months ago

      I think it was worse than that. I was playing pixel dungeon today and an enormous robot shot poisonous gas at me! and that was it for jfk, rfk, and then trump.

  • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    Without redacting anything?

  • buttPickle@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    10 months ago

    well that’s weird, but ok

  • binary45@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    10 months ago

    I’m sure that Biden could do something really funny and just… declassify those documents.

    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      10 months ago

      I imagine experts probably advise against it because there are far reaching implications that could cause significant diplomatic or intelligence issues, domestically and internationally and that Donald “Here’s Where Our Spy Satellites Are” Trump doesn’t give a fuck.

      • binary45@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        10 months ago

        Pretty sure he’s already proved that. He’s already given information on our spies to Russia, which resulted in them getting killed.

    • vvvvan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      I swear both of them have already promised and/or done this.

      Edit: Yes. Biden declassified 99% just last year. (Another thing Donnie promised, that Joe actually did. Infrastructure week!) I’m sure the final 1% will finally prove every conspiracy true… /s

      • Antmz22@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        deleted by creator

  • shimdidly@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    125
    ·
    10 months ago

    I am so fed up with how the DNC has treated RFK Jr. The lawfare and taking him off the ballot in swing states is unacceptable. Really thinking of voting for Trump as a wakeup call to the Democratic party.

    • orclev@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      10 months ago

      Of all the reasons to be mad at the DNC that’s what you’re going with? The way they treated Mr. Brainworms whose Venn Diagram between him and Trump has always been dangerously close to a circle?

    • ABCDE@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      10 months ago

      He is still on the ballot in Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin.

      The fuck are you on about.

    • return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      10 months ago

      I mean, your vote your choice but… yikes.

    • theprogressivist @lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      10 months ago

      Do you really think cosplaying as MAGA brings any value to this platform or anything in general?

      • TVA@thebrainbin.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        Not cosplaying, post history shows they’re just MAGA spreading FUD.

    • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      10 months ago

      If you were a RFK voter, then you were never a concern. You wanted to vote for a guy has a freezer full of roadkill.

    • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      Cool I too am a fan of lawfaremedia.org or whatever the fuck it is. That old dude using chalk to paint a Ukrainian flag in front of the Russian embassy was amazing. And then the Russians violated international customs and local law to clear it off.

    • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
      cake
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      10 months ago

      The RNC is challenging 3rd parties on the ballots in multiple states. They also like challenging mail-in voting. https://www.reuters.com/legal/new-yorks-top-court-upholds-mail-in-voting-all-rejecting-republican-challenge-2024-08-20/

      Hell Republicans are even taking voter signed Abortion ballot measures to court to get them removed from the election. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/us/abortion-ballot-measures-have-had-success-this-year-is-their-biggest-challenge.html

      The Republican party also has a history of funding the Green party intentionally to draw Democratic voters away. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/img-src-images-santorum1-jpg-hspace-5-vspace-5-align-left-gop-donors-funded-entire-pa-green-party-drive

      You’re the one that needs a wakeup call if you think that the Democrats challenging RFK Jr. is unacceptable but what the Republicans are doing is fine.

      • shimdidly@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        39
        ·
        10 months ago

        This is whataboutism at its finest. We need to hold our own party to a higher standard. I think we either need to vote 3rd party or for Trump to send a clear message.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          24
          ·
          10 months ago

          In case anyone missed it, this guy is self proclaimed MAGA. He’s purposefully trying to pretend to be a Democrat voter to dissuade people, although he’s doing a piss poor job. Obviously he thinks everyone else is as dumb as he is.

        • ryry1985@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          10 months ago

          You want to send them a message? Not voting speaks volumes. Do that instead.

        • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
          cake
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          No we don’t. Play the game by the current rules of the system and win. Then try to change the system to be better for next time.

          If you give up a massive LEGAL advantage you could have taken and lose, you get nothing. Your standards mean nothing if you hand a win to an opponent who will wreck everything you hold dear.

        • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          10 months ago

          Third party… or Trump. LOL i’m worried about genocide.

      • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        21
        ·
        10 months ago

        They’re not going to read any of that. You know that, right?

    • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      You’re not intelligent enough to execute this strategy.

    • Blackbeard@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      86
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      .

  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    10 months ago

    “Speaking at a rally in Glendale, Arizona, Trump also pledged that, if elected, he would “establish a panel of top experts” that would work with Kennedy, a prominent anti-vaccine advocate, to investigate childhood health problems.”

    Well if you stop vaccinations you will have a host of childhood problems, so you will never run out of things to do!

    • 58008@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      10 months ago

      Can’t have childhood problems with no living children to have them.

  • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    156
    ·
    10 months ago

    I thought he promised that during the 2016 election?

    • orclev@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      10 months ago

      Sure, but the demographic he’s campaigning for have a tenuous grasp on reality at best, you expect them to remember something that happened in 2016? I’m sure they’ve already constructed some elaborate scenario in their heads about how Trump tried to reveal the truth but a Oceans 11 worthy plot by The Deep State™, Bill Gates, and Barack Obama conspired to prevent its release.

      • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        10 months ago

        That’s not even 2-D Candy Land

      • dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        It was George Soros, not Bill Gates. Please DYOR.

        Now you know.

    • return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      146
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      10 months ago

      Yes he did. Trump promises a lot of things and never delivers.

      • macarthur_park@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        64
        ·
        10 months ago

        By not releasing the JFK files Trump maintained this crucial bit of leverage. That’s some 7-D parcheesi right there.

        Or y’know, Trump just being a lying POS who doesn’t bother to remember the promises he makes.

        • NegativeInf@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          ·
          10 months ago

          You fool! He’s been playing N-Dimensional Yahtzee the whole time!

          • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            Nailed it. 12th-dimensional strip poker and no one wants to see that.

          • Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            10 months ago

            He’s the type to enjoy playing monopoly, but only when he gets to be the bank.

      • fluxion@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        10 months ago

        Keeps. His. Promises.*

        *doesn’t keep his promises

        • Billiam@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          “Promises Made (by someone other than us), Promises Kept (by someone other than us).”

        • jonne@infosec.pub
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          10 months ago

          If you deliver on your promises, they’re not promises any more, but deliverables. The only way you can keep your promises is by keeping them as promises.

          … Is probably what Kelly-Anne Conway would say.

      • Kairos@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        10 months ago
        Tap for spoiler (gross)

        Like orgasm?

    • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      10 months ago

      Don’t worry Trump will release everything in 2 weeks, just like his healthcare plan, infrastructure plan, his taxes…

      • hate2bme@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        10 months ago

        Not so much the Epstein files…

  • Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    34
    ·
    10 months ago

    He asked the Harris camp for a cabinet post for his endorsement. If he helps trump become a dictator he will be Secretary of Health, I guarantee it.

    • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      10 months ago

      I would be very surprised if Trump honors the agreement. After the election is over RFK will already have served his purpose, and will have no leverage. Trump will claim they never had any deal and RFK will be left holding his dick.

      • Evrala@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        10 months ago

        Well, he’ll have his money from Russia at least. I listened to his whole speech, the part about Ukraine is straight out of Russian state media talking points.

      • Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        10 months ago

        Very likely.

      • TomAwsm@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        RFK will be left holding his dick worm.

        FTFY

      • Notyou@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        10 months ago

        Wasn’t that what happened with Chris Christie? Kushner convinced trump to go back in any deal after the election?

        • Coelacanth@feddit.nu
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          10 months ago

          I believe so. Was promised the AG position if I remember right.

    • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      Yeah I think that’s the deal they made which is pretty low cost for Trump since he doesn’t know what that secretariat does and wouldn’t care if someone told him.

  • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    10 months ago

    Lmao

    • worldwidewave@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      deleted by creator

  • expatriado@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    wonder about polling impact on swing states, i got the feeling the reminding RFK jr enthusiasts don’t plan to vote for neither party, so not much change

    • ABCDE@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      10 months ago

      He cannot be removed from three, Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin. I wonder if that many will still vote for him in those to act as much of a spoiler.

    • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      10 months ago

      Don’t let RFKJR voters forget: Trump presided over creation of the Covid-19 vaccine.

      • modifier@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        10 months ago

        I’ll feel dirty doing it, but I’ll do it.

      • jonne@infosec.pub
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        10 months ago

        It was funny to hear Trump try to take credit for this during a rally and getting booed for it. It’s like one of the few genuinely good decisions he made, but he can’t even use it to campaign on.

  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    41
    ·
    10 months ago

    I was unaware “what happened to JFK” was actually a major ask from the RFK-curious crowd. Don’t they have more current conspiracy theories they want answers to?

    • evidences@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      10 months ago

      It’s RFK Jr himself that’s probably asking for it. He’s said in the past he knows the CIA is behind the killing of his uncle. Says the CIA had him killed because JFK didn’t provide air support for bay of pigs and it pissed the CIA off. RFK claims he has proof but no one takes him serious or something.

      • jonne@infosec.pub
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        I mean, they killed his dad as well, it’s probably something he actually cares about.

      • BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        10 months ago

        He’s crazy to think the CIA is behind it. The CIA handles overseas assassinations; domestic ones are the FBI’s domain.

        • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          Well in this case, JFK fired CIA Director Dulles for the Bay of Pigs debacle. You’re right about the CIA being responsible for overseas assassinations. Dulles was involved with coups and assassinations in Guatemala and Iran. However, in the case of JFK, he made an exception and facilitated a domestic assassination since the case of his firing was personal.

        • AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml
          cake
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          10 months ago

          You should read up on George HW Bush

    • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      10 months ago

      If there are any sealed files remaining regarding the JFK killing, then FUCKING RELEASE THEM. honestly I don’t expect much from anybody. What’s Trump gonna do, show a tax return or a balance sheet.

      • jonne@infosec.pub
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        The CIA has been dragging their feet on this. And while the President can order them to do this, the CIA probably has a video of the assassination that they shot from another angle that nobody else has seen yet just to make a point about who actually is in charge of the country.

  • haunte@leminal.space
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    deleted by creator

  • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    10 months ago

    Woo did that guy promise something

  • dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    14
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    Too bad the shadow government won’t cooperate because Donald’s a prick.

    The only person who can actually convince the shadow government to act in the interest of the people is Kamala.

    vote kamala for shadow government envoy (president)

    • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      10 months ago

      Think better.

      • dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        The lizard men have dirt on Trump and installed one of their own as his VP in order to assert more direct control on the front-facing side of the government?

        • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          Nope. Try again.

          • dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            10 months ago

            The Irish!

politics @lemmy.world

politics@lemmy.world

Subscribe from Remote Instance

Create a post
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to “Mom! He’s bugging me!” and “I’m not touching you!” Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That’s all the rules!

Civic Links

• Register To Vote

• Citizenship Resource Center

• Congressional Awards Program

• Federal Government Agencies

• Library of Congress Legislative Resources

• The White House

• U.S. House of Representatives

• U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

• News

• World News

• Business News

• Political Discussion

• Ask Politics

• Military News

• Global Politics

• Moderate Politics

• Progressive Politics

• UK Politics

• Canadian Politics

• Australian Politics

• New Zealand Politics

Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 4.67K users / day
  • 7.84K users / week
  • 12.3K users / month
  • 28.5K users / 6 months
  • 2 local subscribers
  • 24K subscribers
  • 22.6K Posts
  • 622K Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  • outrageousmatter@lemmy.world
  • aidan@lemmy.world
  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
  • 🌱 🐄🌱 @lemmy.world
  • Theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world
  • JuBe@lemmy.world
  • Lasherz@lemmy.world
  • BE: 0.19.11
  • Modlog
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code
  • join-lemmy.org