The girls, aged 14 to 16, have come for settler training to learn how to occupy Palestinian land — breaking international law. “God promised us this land and told us if you don’t take it, bad people will try and take it and you will have a war,” says Emuna Billa, 19, one of the camp supervisors. “Why do we have a war in Gaza? Because we don’t take Gaza.”

Their guru is Daniella Weiss, a 79-year-old grandmother in a long skirt and patterned headscarf. Founder of the Nachala or Homeland movement, she has been setting up illegal settlements for 49 years and was recently put under international sanctions. “You will be the new emissaries,” she tells the 50 or so girls at the camp. “I call it redeeming, not settling and this is our duty.”

She unfurls a map of Israel and the Palestinian territories dotted with vivid pink house symbols to represent existing and proposed Jewish settlements. Not only are these all across the West Bank, but also in Gaza. Already 674 people have signed up for beachside plots there, she tells me, and “many more want to join”. When someone asks her about settling Lebanon she smiles and says, “Yes, there too”.

  • Maeve@kbin.earth
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 months ago

    The wild things is, their* religious leaders know they are worshipping a co-opted war god, that exists only in their shadows.

    *Spelling

  • mlg@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 months ago

    There was an article about her a few months ago, and I wanted to again point out how Hamas’s terrorist mickey mouse actually had more sound logic than this insane woman.

    Farfour’s grandfather explains to Farfour the history of the land. Tel Aviv, he explains, is the Jewish name for the land that was originally called Tel Al-Rabi and the Jews renamed it after occupying it in 1948. Farfour’s grandfather gives Farfour the key and documents to the land and then he dies. Farfour exclaims “Grandpa entrusted me with this great trust but I don’t know how to liberate this land from the filth of the criminal plundering Jews who killed my Grandpa and everybody.” Farfour is then taken to an interrogation where he is “beaten to death by an actor posing as an Israeli official trying to buy Farfour’s land” because Farfour had called him a “despicable terrorist.” The episode has what seems to be an editorial mistake as a brief flash of a “Farfour in prison” sign is shown immediately prior to Saraa explaining that “Farfour was martyred while defending his land, the land of his fathers and forefathers. He was martyred at the hand of the criminals, the murderers, the murderers of innocent children who killed Iman Hijo, Muhammad Al-Duro, and many others.”

    • Silverseren@fedia.ioOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      32
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      That combined with the “Killology” guy really explains how worthless and barbaric the entire US police system is.

  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    2 months ago

    Wow Israel really thinks the world will go like “welp it is now a conflict between civilians so the Israeli government can’t be blamed”. I bet they are praying that locals organise a defense against these invader settlers so that they can pretend like they have a good excuse to send troops.

    • kerrigan778@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 months ago

      That is literally what they’ve done for many, many decades, let the settlers expand and antagonize, then send in the military to protect the innocent civilians living on Palestinian land.

  • kent_eh@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    2 months ago

    “God promised us this land and told us if you don’t take it, bad people will try and take it

    And that attitude right there is why there will most likely never be peace in the region.

    There are hard-line factions on both sides of the conflict who are convinced that their religion grants them a god-given right to exclusive occupation of the same piece of dirt.

    • BelalSaeid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      Israeli fight because the Zionist brainwashed them in the name of god to fight. Palestinian fight to reclaim their land. Where exactly is “the hard-line factions on both sides of the conflict who are convinced thag their religion grants them a god-given right to exclusive occupation of the same piece of dirt.”?

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      There are hard-line factions on both sides

      :-/

      You’re running into a degree of selection bias when you put “guy with gun seizing land” up against “group of residents who haven’t fled yet”.

      What does a moderate faction look like in this set up? Either the IDF backed settler doesn’t show up or the Palestinian leaves. These are your non-escalatory solutions.

      their religion grants them a god-given right to exclusive occupation

      Waving a gun in your face after I’ve kicked down your door, but you’re no better than me because you’re also religious.

    • breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      3 months ago

      MBFC

      Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER; Factual Reporting: HIGH; Country: United Kingdom; MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY)

      Wiki

      The Sunday Times is a British Sunday newspaper whose circulation makes it the largest in Britain’s quality press market category. It was founded in 1821 as The New Observer. It is published by Times Newspapers Ltd, a subsidiary of News UK (formerly News International), which is owned by News Corp. Times Newspapers also publishes The Times.

      • catloaf@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        News Corp being Rupert Murdoch’s company, the same one that controls Fox News and the WSJ in the US, and The Sun in the UK. Any News Corp property should be rated very poorly.

        • Aceticon@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          These guys were behind most of the Brexit lies and supported the Brexiters themselves, which were a Far-Right movement by European standards (literally nobody other than a handful of Far-Right parties in the EU ever supported leaving the EU, and that’s without going into the whole “rabbid racist” anti-immigrant speech from these guys which was very much the same kind of thing Trump spews about “Mexicans”)

          Calling them “Right-Center” is hilariously rightwards biased (the idea that these guys are “moderates” is physically a ROFL kind of idea), and saying they have “High Credibility” is Narnia-level fantasism.

          And yet, we keep getting this bot trying to shove down our throats this ridiculous pro-far-right propagandistic take on reality as the “trust gatekeeper” guarding us against fake news: it really says all that needs being said about the ethics and honesty of the moderators that approved this crap.

    • Revan343@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      34
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      Settler is more accurate, and is a subset of invader. America were invaders in Iraq, but didn’t invade to set up permanent settlements. Israel is invading Palestine in order to set up permanent settlements

  • mods_mum@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    2 months ago

    No, no! Israelis are nice people. The BBC told me and also I read it in a newspaper!

    • kerrigan778@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      2 months ago

      Dude, settlers =/= all Israelis, they just have way too much political influence and are tolerated way too much. Think the proud boys/3%ers/border patrol vigilantes if Trump had won another term. Way too powerful, way too much influence, and way too encouraged, still not reflective of every American or even a majority.

      • mods_mum@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        2 months ago

        If there’s an overwhelming majority that supports it, there’s nothing wrong with generalizing. Without support from most Russians Ukraine war wouldn’t be possible. Without the support of most Israeli citizens there would be no genocide in Palestine. It’s really not that complicated. The people are responsible for the government they voted for.

        • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          You underestimate the amount of brainwashing going on. When two people brought up in entirely different parts of the world, all other circumstances identical, are exposed to two completely different systems - they can often believe opposite things to be true, despite no person being intrinsically more or less good or bad than the other.

          Also, generalization is a BIG problem the moment you use it as prejudice against individuals before knowing them. As a matter of fact, judging individuals based on generalizations is - the moment the generalization is applied to an ethnicity - equal to racism.

      • norimee@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        When you are traveling on the common backpacker routes, you’ll met a lot of young Israelis who recently finished their military service.

        My expierience with them is, that those who are open minded and look at the world, are very much against what the narrow minded fundamentalists are doing at home and in Palestine.

        We have to stop to condem big groups of people on the actions of a few. This just makes us xenophobic, racist and hostile to everything different.

        Not all Israelis are violent fundamentalists. Judge the government and official forces, not the people.
        Not all Palestinians are Hamas terrorists.
        Not all Muslims are Islamists.
        Not all Americans are white supremacists or suport immigrant children in cages.
        Not all Germans are or were Nazis.
        Not all mexicans are cartel gangsters.

  • Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    3 months ago

    “No body follows the old testament.” “Jesus died and filled the prophecy, so the old testament doesn’t apply.” “But Jesus taught love and forgiveness. That’s what the old testament was for.”

    I have heard everything growing up when asked about old testament stories. The brutality, supported raping and murdering of those that don’t agree.

    Then you have Christians. For their teachings to be true, they HAVE to support Israel. If not, the their religion is false.

    You see this vicious cycle. See why religion is dangerous and the bases for all wars. Someone change my mind? Maybe I’m the crazy one.

  • acargitz@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    51
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 months ago

    Daniella Weiss, what a horrible person. She will probably never face justice for her crimes.