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    Ya know what’s a very telling sign that his marriage is in shambales? The fact that Melina never, and I mean never appears next to him on the campaign trails. Hell none of his shit stain sons even show up. What’s up Eric, shit stain jr and “barron” trump? Too busy doing blow off of high end escorts to show up??? Djt wouldn’t know family values if it slapped him in the face

    And before anyone attacks me for bringing barron into this, he did it to himself

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    And he fucking does not care about it. According to him, the people buried there are “losers”, in case you have forgotten.

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    Do Americans know the history of Arlington? I was quite amazed to learn how it became a military cemetery. Not hanging Robert Lee and the other high-ranking traitors is perhaps the biggest single mistake in US history. He is still the highest ranking US soldier to ever betray his country, no?

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      Remember that Benedict Arnold is famous for that. Not saying anyone beats Lee, just that this happens from time to time.

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      I think Benedict Arnold was a higher rank, but I guess it depends on if the US counted as a “country” at that time. Lee was a colonel when he betrayed the US and became a general under the Confederacy, while Arnold was a general at the time he betrayed the US.

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      Reconstruction did funny stuff and the mindsets at the time were different. The entire idea of the civil war centered around if we had a federal or confederated government. The confederate argument was states had to ratify the constitution, so therefore they could deratify and break away. Looking back this is obviously wrong, but a large minority of people believed this at the time, including the 15th President I believe. On the other hand, since Lee surrendered unconditionally, the thought process was you don’t kick the man while he’s down. Plus many men in the Union still considered Lee a heroic American figure. Not imprisoning him most likely led to an easier surrender by the rest of the Confederate forces and less paramilitary actions. Reconstruction further limited the punishment of top officials which was a mistake, though there was 0 chance they could end the thoughts and ideals that led to jim crow and the kkk, they could have certainly limited it.

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        Looking back this is obviously wrong

        I suppose it was obviously wrong in practice because the Union’s greater population and industrial capacity made a Union victory almost inevitable, but I wouldn’t say it was obviously wrong as a legal theory. The US was created by people who thought they had a moral right to leave the British empire and in that context it would be odd for them to intend that there should be no legal way for any state to leave the USA.

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          My understanding is that the US constitution was adopted illegally, anyway. The previous government didn’t have a mechanism to do a full rewrite, I don’t think. The adoption of the constitution via “fuck it, this isn’t working” was almost in living memory at the time of the civil war.

          I think the way US history is taught tends to be very civic religion-y

          But also like fuck the slave states.

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    His cultists don’t give a fuck. They don’t give a fuck about anything. He didn’t lose any votes here

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      Violating women ✔️ Violating minorities ✔️ Violating lgbtq+ ✔️ Violating third world countries ✔️ ✅️ Violating federal and state laws ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ Being a treasonous pos while peddling Russian propaganda and their… checks notes… beans? ✔️ x’s 10

      Violating deceased American war heros graves??? Check ✔️ 😕

      Violating the oval office worse that bill and Monica ✔️

      Not to mention the many 70 something election/ fraud/ real estate crimes he has committed.

      What’s next? Is trump gonna break into my house and violate me? Unfortunately he already has, he’s violated every single us citizen by infringing upon our rights as Americans and I’ll be dammed if I’m gonna let this orange cunt into my house again, bc that’s what happens if he wins, we are allowing djt into our homes, our schools, our hospitals and beyond.

      My fellow dems, arm yourself, be prepared for the worst

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        arm yourself

        Not good enough. You have to practice safety, learn the laws, learn your weapon, put a couple thousand rounds downrange, all that. But thank you for your support, I’m right with ya.

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        Or anyone who isn’t him. I think he complains that the people who changes his diaper are too rough on him.

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        And the dead. Remember when he buried his ex wife at his golf club so it would qualify as a cemetery and get tax exempt status.

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        Don’t forget that he excels at cheating on wives, bankrupting businesses, and stealing money from cancer charities (among other notable achievements)

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    Pretty sure if he hasn’t been busted for the classified documents thing, he’s getting off scot-free for this one too.

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      This is more about some number of MAGAts suddenly going “wait a moment”. This is the thing that finally broke through for many.

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      I think the main impact will be to convince a modest but significant slice of voters to not vote for him.

  • You know those videos of people talking on their cell phones during the changing of the guards at Arlington, or videos of total, antisocial assholes fucking with the sentry? Those are Trump voters.

    They also litter all the time. Every time I see a car throw some giant bag of convenience store food wrappers out the window there’s MAGA bullshit all over it.

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    As the operator of the other circus once said, “all publicity is good publicity,” and “there’s a sucker born every minute.”

    And as the other clown, Dr. Strangelove, once said, “the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you keep it a secret!”

    The idea of a Federal cemetery being “sacred” and the strangers buried there being “honored” is so far removed from the every day fight for survival of the average, brutally exploited wageslave American, the notion that starting a fight there could budge the needle on an election lacks credibility. However, injecting the knowledge into the global zeitgeist that there’s a cemetery in America where rows of uniform gravestones extend as far as the eye can see, marking the depths of USA’s brutality and Will to Power - that sends a message.

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            Turns out the neoliberals, who tag teamed the destruction of America with conservatism, will not save America… Who would’ve thought?

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          Its there. But nothing in the headline about who or what or why it matters. Just enough to be able to say they didn’t bury it.

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            Seriously, it’s hard to be less informative than that headline.

            “Trump Breaks Federal Law By Shooting Campaign Commercial in Arlington Cemetery”…

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        Weird 34 knows the media loves him for the ads and headlines his name and behavior sells. They’re complicit in that they want the gravy train to never run dry. Don’t reward them. Change the channel, click away, or scroll elsewhere.