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another case for veganism
Veganism doesn’t stop child/slave labor.
But it does give you super powers I think
Right, if we can reduce it but not stop it we might as well not even try!
being vegan doesn’t reduce it either
Says who? Regardless, at least someone trying to reduce one’s dependancy on this shit is doing something rather than simply disregarding any attempts like you are.
can you show a causal link between being vegan and a decrease in child labor? my guess is that there is a general trend of increased child labor globally that tracks closely the rise in veganism.
at least someone trying to reduce one’s dependancy on this shit is doing something
but i AM doing something. i bought a buss pass last month. it’s just as effective!
As if fruit and veg packing and processing plants are any better. As long as greedy humans are in charge people will be exploited as much as they possibly can regardless of what the industry is.
Exploitation of labor is a huge problem in many industries, but the amount of desensitizing horror and PTSD that occurs in slaughterhouses and meatpacking plants is on a whole different level.
didn’t you already try that? it didn’t work.
We really should have made The Jungle required reading
That’s the book that came to mind when the Supreme Court ruled against federal agencies.
the people who need to read and understand that book will not absorb the message
They hate this country so fucking much. We need to kick these people out of this country to make room for hard working refugees (not /s)
There are folks more upset about the Boarshead fiasco that are suggesting that more people should have read that book.
Meaning that a lot of folks that did read it also didn’t absorb the message.
Dinosaur chicken nuggets: made by kids for kids.
And from kids! The circle is complete
The dinosaur nuggies are children!
It’s the roarin’ 20’s.
At least we don’t have prohibition to worry about this time. Way easier to take the edge off all these stories.
I don’t know about the bread part. Food is crazy expensive.
Well 5 pounds of flour is still under $3 so bread is still cheap even if the bakers are out of their minds cranking up margins.
Meat is a choice and it’s a bad one.
how can you look at this and not see child labor as the obvious problem?
I never said I didn’t see child labor as a problem as well, but the industry shouldn’t exist in the first place.
We’re all going to die unless people stop eating meat.
Make better choices and the problem goes away all on its own. Like removing streets to clear up traffic.
I never said I didn’t see child labor as a problem as well, but the industry shouldn’t exist in the first place.
you’re conflating two issues here to soapbox about meat with a strawman argument-- and you still haven’t said you disapprove of child labor. child labor won’t magically disappear if people stop eating meat.
I don’t think it’s mere coincidence that an industry devoid of compassion for animals is also devoid of compassion for humans. The issues are certainly distinct, but not entirely unrelated.
It foolish to see things as so black and white when the reality is a bombastic rainbow.
Like… I see where you’re coming from, and I understand why you think that… but it’s just not that simple.
no one should be forced to work in these conditions
The same is true of migrant workers picking vegetables in increasingly inhospitable tempertures but you draw your line wherever you like.
the first step would be to shut down animal agriculture, as a huge part of plant farming and it’s inherent exploitation is in growing food to feed to the animals before they get to the slaughterhouse; we grow more than enough food to feed the planet as it is, but we waste so much of it trying to sustain animal ag, which is a failing enterprise and a massive driver of climate change
is anyone being “forced”? i agree, nobody should be forced, especially not children.
lots of people are being forced, often immigrants and refugees. would you like to slash throats all day in the dismemberment factory?
you’re assuming a lot here about the workers in that plant
wow, you haven’t looked into this, like, at all
and you have? what, with all the evidence you have to back up your claim?
Classist as fuck. These people are poor as shit. They are most certainly not white kids from the suburbs doing it.
As someone who has been to these places, yeah, it is usually a bunch of migrant workers or children of migrant workers who already work there. I don’t think I have ever seen a white kid, much less adult, fulfilling those roles. They really do give the worst jobs to the people nobody gives a shit about. So yeah, these people are definitely poor as shit.
so, you’re assuming that because of their race and economic status (which you are also assuming, btw), that makes them forced labor. how is that not classist?
Please read this and educate yourself: https://www.npr.org/2023/05/04/1173697113/immigrant-child-labor-crisis
If you have a problem with basic socio-economic analysis, I suggest you go back to school. It is a fact that racialized people are more likely to be in lower socio-economic classes than their non-racialized counterparts, and therefore have to “”“choose”“” more grueling and exploitative labor to survive.
Some of the worst work out there involves exploiting and killing sentient beings and it tends to leave any person, adult or child, with permanent trauma as a result.
When I have a problem with is people hijacking an post about child labor in order to soap box about eating meat. I made that pretty clear.
If you have a problem reading, then I suggest you go back to school.
Tyson Foods, the company mentioned in the article, also has plant-based brands under its wing.
So no, it won’t make a difference in this case.
It’s almost like exploiting and killing sentient beings is something we shouldn’t be doing at all… 🤔
Also, if you think a child will ever clean something well enough to process food!? US food production is disgusting.
So you think a low payed adult worker will either?
Ain’t none of you people ever been inside a packing plant have you?
Not my point. And I have.
Everyone should read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair.
It was written almost 120 years ago, and shows just how horrendous these working conditions used to be before the FDA existed. Everyone who wants to cripple the ability of the FDA to regulate these plants wants those kinds of inhumane working conditions back.
It has a socialist message in the second half, but remember - socialism doesn’t replace democracy. Socialism replaces Capitalism.
And don’t get me started on the white trash managers and supervisors in those places. Literally run by some strange asshole thug druggie meth types. Oscar Mayer plant in west/southern Illinois is absolutely crazy.
Flashbacks to Left Behind
But they yearn for it /s
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Not only that I’m sure they are making close to minimum wage. Raise that and families might make enough to not need to have their children need to work
Underage/undocumented workers are definitely not making minimum wage!
are you still at it? unbelievable.
Still at what?
child labour
We haven’t even abolished slavery yet
You’re saying kids are packing my mea…
Nevermind.
