Two women who say they were raped and strangled by the controversial social media influencer Andrew Tate have spoken to the BBC about their experiences.

Another woman has alleged, for the first time, she was raped by Mr Tate’s younger brother, Tristan - also an influencer with millions of followers.

The Tate brothers, aged 37 and 36, currently face charges in Romania of human trafficking and forming an organised group to sexually exploit women. Andrew Tate is also charged with rape.

If found guilty, the two men could be jailed for more than 10 years. They strongly deny the charges against them.

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    Not entirely surprising considering their openly misogynistic views.

    Shame so many people use him as a role model, he’s very dangerous.

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      don’t compare Tate to Assange. Tate is a common criminal who is dumb enough to go on camera and made howto videos on human trafficking and then tried to sell them to kids.

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    Anybody who legitimately gets giddy-as-fuck over the thought of a Muslim woman being stoned to death for adultery should not be trusted with dating advice. Yet somehow this asshole has a social media following of millions, has indoctornated a lot of young people into misogynistic views (I know secondary school teachers who have seen pupils gobble up lots of Andrew Tate content), has eluded bans from mainstream social media (his shit is still all over YouTube), and still has a following despite facing rape and human trafficking charges and being on EUROPOL’s wanted list.

    Isn’t this at all concerning, and a big sign that society is failing men?

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    not really surprised since he has sexist views and i have seen people use ai to make him say slurs

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    “… but but but, he told me to workout…. He can’t be a bad guy….”

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      This is a fair question… If it was just one or two accusations. But that is not the case here Tate is a monster and his last moments should be pure suffering and fear. Fuck him and fuck his life.

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        I agree with Fuck that dude, but like… A “high profile” dude can have accusations coming out of the woodwork. I absolutely hate this dude but it would be unjust to send someone to prison over only accusations. I understand that sexual assault is damn near impossible to prove. I don’t know what the correct course is but I can’t justify punishment that may be unjust.

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          The allegations surrounding tate are more extreme than epstein and he has many recorded instances of himself describing the methods. This is a case that in US court would probably be easier to prosecute.

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            Fair enough. I don’t know much about it and the comments that I did read revolved around hearsay. As much as I am not a fan of that dude, it’d be a crime in itself to lock someone away without evidence. If he’s incriminating himself by self admission, then that’s on him.

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              I get the desire to respond to current events but there’s nothing wrong with being a bit curious about why people don’t like the guy. Its weird to have so much grace for some random dude and none for the people criticizing him.

              The media has sort of tossed him in with the “people who upset feminists” camp but like mostly its his “howto commit human trafficking” type videos that are generating criminal lawsuits.

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      if you read the article, the moron texted one of his victims talking about how he raped her. yes, there’s evidence.

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      Would there be any evidence that could satisfy you, or are you just looking for a reason to dismiss this?

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      Accusations from multiple sources that are credible enough for action to be taken.

      Tater top drank from his own kool-aid and thought by moving to Eastern Europe, he could get away with this.

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      That has never in the entire history of the human race being an individual who looks more guilty than he does. He gives off rapist energy, out of every pour, how can you possibly be defending him?

      When he was born the midwives probably said oh here’s a bad one.

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        That has never in the entire history of the human race being an individual who looks more guilty than he does. He gives off rapist energy

        Completely agree. Too bad that’s not proof of anything, we’re supposed to learn that in grade school

        how can you possibly be defending him?

        They didn’t, they simply reminded everyone that accusations are not in and of themselves proof even if we dislike the person immensely

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          Yeah but there is proof literally everything he has ever done proves that this is 100% in his personality to do also he’s done it in the past so it’s not just that I don’t like him he has form.

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      You can use circumstantial evidence to know this guy is guilty. The classes he sold about pimping. Him fleeing to Romania because as he said it’s harder to get convicted of sex trafficking. The previous reports on him by other women.

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      accusations against “high profile” people shouldn’t just be taken as proof

      Yeah. I find it highly suspicious that a guy who got famous for being the loudest misogynist on YouTube would be accused of practicing what he preaches. This would be like if someone accused Mike Tyson of hitting him. Or Tucker Carlson of lying. Or Ben Affleck cheating on his wife. Or OJ Simpson of committing a murder.

      You have to take this shit with a huge boulder of salt, because… come on. What are the odds?

      I hope the truth comes to light

      Hearts out to all those possibly wrongfully accused rapists and sex traffickers. Andrew Tate, Harvey Weinstein, Neil Gaiman, Ron Jeremy. Really hope we can clear aside the dozens and dozens of testimonials from people accusing them of wrongdoing and find a piece of evidence I won’t casually dismiss.

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        The worst part is they are usually cleared on some sort of bullshit technicality: “Oh, you didn’t dot your I’s in your rape report, so your statement isn’t valid”.

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      The difference is that if a few women accused me of rape they wouldn’t be believed because I don’t give off the impression that I’m a piece of shit that hates women.

      When a shitload of women accuse Tate however, the response is correctly “yea that checks out”.

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        Hates - no. But giving off the impression of being weird is not that hard. I’m certain quite a few people would believe something like this about me purely due to being a sunlight-avoiding wimp bad with words (in verbal conversations).

        So due process is a good thing. For each Andrew Tate there are a few dozens at least of people whom “the society” would eagerly accuse simply because of being asocial and weird. Like that folk psychology with red flags, manipulations and other shit. People practicing it can wound an autist. But I seriously doubt those would help them avoid a serial maniac.

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          “he looks like a criminal”

          Watch any content of him opening his mouth, it just reeks of misogyny. So yeah since he’s reported, it checks out.

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          Please for the love of God go watch his content and then come back and tell me that you think there is even the most microscopic chance that he is innocent of literally any crime ever.

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              You almost got there you almost managed to get it. The court of public opinion is not a real court so it doesn’t matter and he’s an asshole so who cares.

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          This is not about his looks, but about the misogynistic content he creates. If you are accused of rape, and you openly talk about coercing women into sexual acts I’d say that it checks out.

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      Can you document for me one case where such accusations against a high profile individual were shown in the fullness of time to be hired fraud?

      There probably is some case like that out there - I’m not saying it’s impossible. But given the past we come from, where women were objects without status, I find it very believable that sexual assault is quite common. I need some reason to take your counterpoint as seriously.

      So please, show me that one clear case where we found out that the woman had been paid by political enemies to create false accusations.

      EDIT: 3 days later, still waiting.